What do GXE, GLE & SE stand for?
07-09-2001, 06:23 AM
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They have no actual meaning. Most manufacturers trim level designations don't mean anything by themselves, unless we are talking engine size. The engine size is usually in the model number, i.e. Q45, I35, G20, but the letters don't mean anything by themselves. There is a general exception to this however. An X at the end of a model designation, usually means 4WD.
07-09-2001, 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
They have no actual meaning. Most manufacturers trim level designations don't mean anything by themselves, unless we are talking engine size.
They have no actual meaning. Most manufacturers trim level designations don't mean anything by themselves, unless we are talking engine size.
The GM ones make more sense: SE = Standard Edition, GT = Grand Touring, SS = Super Sport, etc. I actually had one guy with a Grand Am GT comment to me at an autox that my Altima (SE) did pretty good for the base model. I had to explain that SE meant Sport, not Standard like on Pontiacs.
07-09-2001, 08:51 AM
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Creature, you just proved my point. They model designations don't make any sense. So, yes, SE stands for Sports Edition as per Nissan, but why wouldn't they tell you what GLE or GXE stand for? Because they don't stand for ANYTHING. Car manufacturers these days are running out of original model designations, so they throw letters around. The letters don't mean anything, in general.
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
07-09-2001, 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
And as for the rest:
GXE = Grand Xtra Engine
SE = Sporty Engine
GLE = Grand Luxo Engine
wioth the Maxima it always comes back to the engine...
07-09-2001, 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
Umm, actually GTP and SSEi do stand for something, the pontiac Grand Prix GTP Stands for Grand Touring Performance and the ssei is the bonneville Super Sport Edition (something - i fporget what the i is but it does have a meaning).
And as for the rest:
GXE = Grand Xtra Engine
SE = Sporty Engine
GLE = Grand Luxo Engine
wioth the Maxima it always comes back to the engine...
Umm, actually GTP and SSEi do stand for something, the pontiac Grand Prix GTP Stands for Grand Touring Performance and the ssei is the bonneville Super Sport Edition (something - i fporget what the i is but it does have a meaning).
And as for the rest:
GXE = Grand Xtra Engine
SE = Sporty Engine
GLE = Grand Luxo Engine
wioth the Maxima it always comes back to the engine...
Grand Xtra Engine
07-09-2001, 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by AdamK
This is probably wrong but it could be like with Hondas...
DX(Honda)=GXE(Nissan)=Delux
SE=Plain ol' Sport Edition
LX(Honda)=GLE(Nissan)=Luxery
This is probably wrong but it could be like with Hondas...
DX(Honda)=GXE(Nissan)=Delux
SE=Plain ol' Sport Edition
LX(Honda)=GLE(Nissan)=Luxery
07-10-2001, 12:34 AM
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i think outta all these alphanumeric names i like BMWs the best. higher the number, the better/more expensive the car. although i dont get how they get the numbers and why theyre all odd...
07-10-2001, 09:11 AM
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The real breakdown of the letter designations:
GXE = Good but Expensive Edition - When you discover that it’s quite costly to upgrade to all that GLE standard equipment you now want.
SE = Snob Edition - That rear spoiler lets everyone think you’re a real car enthusiast on his way to the track.
GLE = Grand Letdown Edition - When you find out that a less expensive GXE would have performed the same.
SE = Snob Edition - That rear spoiler lets everyone think you’re a real car enthusiast on his way to the track.
GLE = Grand Letdown Edition - When you find out that a less expensive GXE would have performed the same.
07-10-2001, 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Creature, you just proved my point. They model designations don't make any sense. So, yes, SE stands for Sports Edition as per Nissan, but why wouldn't they tell you what GLE or GXE stand for? Because they don't stand for ANYTHING. Car manufacturers these days are running out of original model designations, so they throw letters around. The letters don't mean anything, in general.
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
Creature, you just proved my point. They model designations don't make any sense. So, yes, SE stands for Sports Edition as per Nissan, but why wouldn't they tell you what GLE or GXE stand for? Because they don't stand for ANYTHING. Car manufacturers these days are running out of original model designations, so they throw letters around. The letters don't mean anything, in general.
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
As stated, GTP is Grand Touring Performance, SEL (actually SE-L) is Sport Edition Limited, the lower-case "i" after many of them (SSEi, LXi, Si, 325i) is a carry-over from when they started producing models with fuel-injection back in the 80's, HX is for High-efficiency (it's the high-mpg Civic 3-dr), CX is for Continuously-variable (it's the Civic with the CVT), RS is Rally Sport (in the case of the Impreza), TL is Touring Luxury. The rest I'd be guessing.
I do agree that most of them are cryptic and don't mean anything to the general public (aside from identifying trim levels) but I have to believe they mean something somewhere.
07-10-2001, 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by bcannon
It's all thought up by psychologists...they was to make you think of sex. Why else would they put S and X in every models names. You never see the Nissan Altima KL, or the Ford Explorer RFT
It's all thought up by psychologists...they was to make you think of sex. Why else would they put S and X in every models names. You never see the Nissan Altima KL, or the Ford Explorer RFT
07-10-2001, 01:15 PM
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The first number is the model line (3 = small, 5 = medium, 7 = large) and the remaining 2 numbers are engine displacement. 28 = 2.8L, 40 = 4.0L So we all want an M350
Originally posted by Ludacris
i think outta all these alphanumeric names i like BMWs the best. higher the number, the better/more expensive the car. although i dont get how they get the numbers and why theyre all odd...
i think outta all these alphanumeric names i like BMWs the best. higher the number, the better/more expensive the car. although i dont get how they get the numbers and why theyre all odd...
07-10-2001, 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Creature, you just proved my point. They model designations don't make any sense. So, yes, SE stands for Sports Edition as per Nissan, but why wouldn't they tell you what GLE or GXE stand for? Because they don't stand for ANYTHING. Car manufacturers these days are running out of original model designations, so they throw letters around. The letters don't mean anything, in general.
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
Creature, you just proved my point. They model designations don't make any sense. So, yes, SE stands for Sports Edition as per Nissan, but why wouldn't they tell you what GLE or GXE stand for? Because they don't stand for ANYTHING. Car manufacturers these days are running out of original model designations, so they throw letters around. The letters don't mean anything, in general.
Some that don't make sense. GXE, GLE, GTP, SEL, SSEi, GL, SH, HX, CX, CE, DL, DX, LX, RS, TL, ES....
Lexus ES=executive sedan
Lexus GS=grand sedan
Lexus LS=luxury sedan
Lexus SC=sport coupe
Acura RL=road luxury
Acura TL=touring luxury
Acura CL=coupe luxury
Honda Accord DX=deluxe
Honda Accord SE=special edition
Toyota Camry DX=deluxe
Toyota Camry CE=classic edition
Chevy Cavalier RS=rally sport
Frankly, I don't care what they name it just as long as people don't mistake the model for something else.
07-10-2001, 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
Umm, actually GTP and SSEi do stand for something, the pontiac Grand Prix GTP Stands for Grand Touring Performance and the ssei is the bonneville Super Sport Edition (something - i fporget what the i is but it does have a meaning).
And as for the rest:
GXE = Grand Xtra Engine
SE = Sporty Engine
GLE = Grand Luxo Engine
wioth the Maxima it always comes back to the engine...
Umm, actually GTP and SSEi do stand for something, the pontiac Grand Prix GTP Stands for Grand Touring Performance and the ssei is the bonneville Super Sport Edition (something - i fporget what the i is but it does have a meaning).
And as for the rest:
GXE = Grand Xtra Engine
SE = Sporty Engine
GLE = Grand Luxo Engine
wioth the Maxima it always comes back to the engine...
07-10-2001, 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ludacris
i think outta all these alphanumeric names i like BMWs the best. higher the number, the better/more expensive the car. although i dont get how they get the numbers and why theyre all odd...
i think outta all these alphanumeric names i like BMWs the best. higher the number, the better/more expensive the car. although i dont get how they get the numbers and why theyre all odd...
07-10-2001, 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by bert
The first number is the model line (3 = small, 5 = medium, 7 = large) and the remaining 2 numbers are engine displacement. 28 = 2.8L, 40 = 4.0L So we all want an M350
The first number is the model line (3 = small, 5 = medium, 7 = large) and the remaining 2 numbers are engine displacement. 28 = 2.8L, 40 = 4.0L So we all want an M350
The old 323i was still a 2.5L engine, but they left room for the 325i which was still a 2.5L I6, but with a higher performance intake and some other goodies to give it more power.
The 540i and 740i are actually not 4.0L V8's but rather 4.4L V8's. The 750i is actually a 5.4L V12 and not a 5.0L engine. I think in these cases the 40 or 50 numbers stands for a class of displacement - i.e. "4.0L class, or 4.x Liter" and 50 stands for a 5.x liter engine.
Mercedes is also a bit cryptic with their displacement designators. The current C240 is a 2.6L V8, and not a 2.4L engine. The "55"'s (CL55, CLK55, E55, and ML55) are really only 5.4L V8's. And the current 600's are really 5.8L V12's.
In this premium category, the even numbered displacements are more to define a "class" of performance or displacement rather than the actual displacement.
If you're paying $20-30k extra for the V12 in your Benz, would you rather have a cheapo odd-ball 580 designation or a much cooler 600 designation to set you apart from the wussies driving the mere 5.0L V8 with "only" 300HP!! bwahahaha!
My favorite is the old Mercedes-Benz 190E. It first had a 1.9L I4, but then they put a bigger 2.3L engine in it but it was still the same car so they called it a "190E 2.3" or a "190E 2.6" or whatever. I'm sure there's tons more history too.
Sometimes the names are cryptic and sometimes they're not, but it's usually "ballpark" heh heh
07-10-2001, 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by stevepake
BMW screws around with the displacement numbers a bit.
The old 323i was still a 2.5L engine, but they left room for the 325i which was still a 2.5L I6, but with a higher performance intake and some other goodies to give it more power.
The 540i and 740i are actually not 4.0L V8's but rather 4.4L V8's. The 750i is actually a 5.4L V12 and not a 5.0L engine. I think in these cases the 40 or 50 numbers stands for a class of displacement - i.e. "4.0L class, or 4.x Liter" and 50 stands for a 5.x liter engine.
Mercedes is also a bit cryptic with their displacement designators. The current C240 is a 2.6L V8, and not a 2.4L engine. The "55"'s (CL55, CLK55, E55, and ML55) are really only 5.4L V8's. And the current 600's are really 5.8L V12's.
In this premium category, the even numbered displacements are more to define a "class" of performance or displacement rather than the actual displacement.
If you're paying $20-30k extra for the V12 in your Benz, would you rather have a cheapo odd-ball 580 designation or a much cooler 600 designation to set you apart from the wussies driving the mere 5.0L V8 with "only" 300HP!! bwahahaha!
My favorite is the old Mercedes-Benz 190E. It first had a 1.9L I4, but then they put a bigger 2.3L engine in it but it was still the same car so they called it a "190E 2.3" or a "190E 2.6" or whatever. I'm sure there's tons more history too.
Sometimes the names are cryptic and sometimes they're not, but it's usually "ballpark" heh heh
BMW screws around with the displacement numbers a bit.
The old 323i was still a 2.5L engine, but they left room for the 325i which was still a 2.5L I6, but with a higher performance intake and some other goodies to give it more power.
The 540i and 740i are actually not 4.0L V8's but rather 4.4L V8's. The 750i is actually a 5.4L V12 and not a 5.0L engine. I think in these cases the 40 or 50 numbers stands for a class of displacement - i.e. "4.0L class, or 4.x Liter" and 50 stands for a 5.x liter engine.
Mercedes is also a bit cryptic with their displacement designators. The current C240 is a 2.6L V8, and not a 2.4L engine. The "55"'s (CL55, CLK55, E55, and ML55) are really only 5.4L V8's. And the current 600's are really 5.8L V12's.
In this premium category, the even numbered displacements are more to define a "class" of performance or displacement rather than the actual displacement.
If you're paying $20-30k extra for the V12 in your Benz, would you rather have a cheapo odd-ball 580 designation or a much cooler 600 designation to set you apart from the wussies driving the mere 5.0L V8 with "only" 300HP!! bwahahaha!
My favorite is the old Mercedes-Benz 190E. It first had a 1.9L I4, but then they put a bigger 2.3L engine in it but it was still the same car so they called it a "190E 2.3" or a "190E 2.6" or whatever. I'm sure there's tons more history too.
Sometimes the names are cryptic and sometimes they're not, but it's usually "ballpark" heh heh
Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily
07-10-2001, 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
Personally I like the old 5.0! As in the Ford Mustang 5.0L engine that was actually 4.9L. One of the most popular engines and designations and its wrong. Go figure -> Its a Ford. Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily
Personally I like the old 5.0! As in the Ford Mustang 5.0L engine that was actually 4.9L. One of the most popular engines and designations and its wrong. Go figure -> Its a Ford. Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily
:I never knew that. Haha...even at 4.9L that poor old engine STILL couldn't manage to break the 50HP/L barrier.
bwahahaha!
07-10-2001, 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by bcannon
It's all thought up by psychologists...they was to make you think of sex. Why else would they put S and X in every models names. You never see the Nissan Altima KL, or the Ford Explorer RFT
It's all thought up by psychologists...they was to make you think of sex. Why else would they put S and X in every models names. You never see the Nissan Altima KL, or the Ford Explorer RFT
How come they don't use the letter F,H,J,P like a JP series maxima, meaning 'J'ust 'P'erfect.
What do you think.
07-10-2001, 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
Personally I like the old 5.0! As in the Ford Mustang 5.0L engine that was actually 4.9L. One of the most popular engines and designations and its wrong. Go figure -> Its a Ford.
Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily
Personally I like the old 5.0! As in the Ford Mustang 5.0L engine that was actually 4.9L. One of the most popular engines and designations and its wrong. Go figure -> Its a Ford.
Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily
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