Go Back   Maxima Forums > Maxima Discussions > 3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994)
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search

3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994) Learn more about the 3rd Generation Maxima here.

Welcome to Maxima.org!
Welcome to Maxima.org,

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join Maxima.org today!


Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-02-2014, 07:15 PM   #1
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
Rack pinion steering

Replaced rack pinion with remanufactured and the steering is more heavy and ratio is greater. Whereas before a touch of the steering wheel would put it in the next lane???

Starrider
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 07:29 PM   #2
Member


 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Vancouver, WA
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 198
Points: 2,222, Level: 28
Points: 2,222, Level: 28 Points: 2,222, Level: 28 Points: 2,222, Level: 28
Activity: 2.1%
Activity: 2.1% Activity: 2.1% Activity: 2.1%
Lev0r Levsimus
New/reman steering racks are often much stiffer because everything is tight and fresh. I had the same experience after replacing my old one. Its gotten better over the last couple months but I don't drive the car very much so it hasn't had a ton of miles to break it in. Also make sure you thoroughly bleed your power steering system, may need to be bled some more.

To be fair, mine was REAAAALLY loose before - one of my steering rack bushings was completely gone so the steering rack was floating freely on one side (made for some hellishly violent bumpsteer, to boot!)
Levsimus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 07:44 PM   #3
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
It seems the 94 maxima gxe's had two variations of the racks depending on whether the car was made early in the year or later...Mine was made early. The new reman part (cardone) list only one. What i don't understand is why the steering ratio is greater or less inother words it takes more turn of the steering wheel to turn the wheels?

ps thanks for the power steering fluid check tip!...

Last edited by Starrider; 01-02-2014 at 07:48 PM..
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 07:59 PM   #4
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 6,682
Points: 11,702, Level: 71
Points: 11,702, Level: 71 Points: 11,702, Level: 71 Points: 11,702, Level: 71
Activity: 40.0%
Activity: 40.0% Activity: 40.0% Activity: 40.0%
i cant see how GXE would have 2 different versions of steering racks only thing i can maybe see is if a 94 VE30DE SE had a different rack than a VG30E GXE
__________________
current
79 Toyota Supra
81 Toyota Hilux 4x4
91 JDM Toyota Crown
00 Chev Silverado 4x4

past
88 Nissan Hardbody KingCab
92 Nissan Maxima GXE
chrome91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 08:06 PM   #5
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrome91 View Post
i cant see how GXE would have 2 different versions of steering racks only thing i can maybe see is if a 94 VE30DE SE had a different rack than a VG30E GXE
OK...so does the SE rack have a tighter steering ratio than the GXE?
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 10:41 PM   #6
Member

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Las Vegas
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 104
Points: 8,514, Level: 62
Points: 8,514, Level: 62 Points: 8,514, Level: 62 Points: 8,514, Level: 62
Activity: 54.2%
Activity: 54.2% Activity: 54.2% Activity: 54.2%
Send a message via AIM to i8acobra
Working at a dealership, there are 3 parts I refuse to install aftermarket... Steering racks, master cylinders and a/c compressors. I can tell you from personal experience. It's worth the extra money for OEM.
__________________
Aaron B.
Nissan Dealer Tech
'14 Maxima SV Sport, daily driver
'02 Civic EX, road racer
'89 Colt GT, drag racer
'87 Nissan Hardbody - The "Mud Mobile"
i8acobra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 12:51 AM   #7
Member


 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Vancouver, WA
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 198
Points: 2,222, Level: 28
Points: 2,222, Level: 28 Points: 2,222, Level: 28 Points: 2,222, Level: 28
Activity: 2.1%
Activity: 2.1% Activity: 2.1% Activity: 2.1%
Lev0r Levsimus
Can't get OEM steering racks anymore for third gens. Remanned/aftermarket is all that's left, unfortunately.
Levsimus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 01:01 AM   #8
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
Quote:
Originally Posted by i8acobra View Post
Working at a dealership, there are 3 parts I refuse to install aftermarket... Steering racks, master cylinders and a/c compressors. I can tell you from personal experience. It's worth the extra money for OEM.

OEM is always my first choice...was told Nissan no longer makes the rack for the car.
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 09:57 AM   #9
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 6,682
Points: 11,702, Level: 71
Points: 11,702, Level: 71 Points: 11,702, Level: 71 Points: 11,702, Level: 71
Activity: 40.0%
Activity: 40.0% Activity: 40.0% Activity: 40.0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starrider View Post
OK...so does the SE rack have a tighter steering ratio than the GXE?
myself i have no idea. if it fit in the car and everything i cant imagine you got the wrong one. you can call an autoparts store and see how many part numbers they have for steering racks to see if theres indeed 2 different kinds but i dont imagine so
__________________
current
79 Toyota Supra
81 Toyota Hilux 4x4
91 JDM Toyota Crown
00 Chev Silverado 4x4

past
88 Nissan Hardbody KingCab
92 Nissan Maxima GXE
chrome91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 10:44 PM   #10
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
Okay guys...Thanks for all the input. I can understand how the steering may be stiff due to it being a new/reman part...but miss the fast ratio turn of the original steering rack. We'll check the lines as suggested ... is there any other thing to check?...Thanks again...

Last edited by Starrider; 01-03-2014 at 10:53 PM..
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 11:01 PM   #11
Member

 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ny longisland
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 156
Points: 1,223, Level: 19
Points: 1,223, Level: 19 Points: 1,223, Level: 19 Points: 1,223, Level: 19
Activity: 4.3%
Activity: 4.3% Activity: 4.3% Activity: 4.3%
jacobaudi81
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starrider View Post
Okay guys...Thanks for all the input. I can understand how the steering may be stiff due to it being a new/reman part...but miss the fast ratio turn of the original steering rack. We'll check the lines as suggested ... is there any other thing to check?...Thanks again...
check your power steering pump pressure sensor wire if it's plugged in
Jacobaudi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 01:20 PM   #12
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: DFW- Texas
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 38
Points: 3,461, Level: 36
Points: 3,461, Level: 36 Points: 3,461, Level: 36 Points: 3,461, Level: 36
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
There is no steering pressure sensor on a 3rd Gen Maxima. I checked my FSM and there was nothing in Steering SA section.

Regarding reman'd R&P's, my experience is that aftermarket R&P's steer a little easier than OEM. I think I used a Cardone from AutoZone.
oldpuck81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 01:31 PM   #13
Member

 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ny longisland
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 156
Points: 1,223, Level: 19
Points: 1,223, Level: 19 Points: 1,223, Level: 19 Points: 1,223, Level: 19
Activity: 4.3%
Activity: 4.3% Activity: 4.3% Activity: 4.3%
jacobaudi81
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldpuck81 View Post
There is no steering pressure sensor on a 3rd Gen Maxima. I checked my FSM and there was nothing in Steering SA section. Regarding reman'd R&P's, my experience is that aftermarket R&P's steer a little easier than OEM. I think I used a Cardone from AutoZone.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,7408
Jacobaudi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 03:42 PM   #14
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: DFW- Texas
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 38
Points: 3,461, Level: 36
Points: 3,461, Level: 36 Points: 3,461, Level: 36 Points: 3,461, Level: 36
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Maxima SOLENOID ASSY-POWER STEERING PUMP 49177M

Ok, looks like the Maxima SE DOHC has an option for electrically controlled steering pump pressure. The GXE's don't have this. This is part lookup from Courtesy Nissan online parts. I didn't see this in the Nissan FSM.
oldpuck81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 04:09 PM   #15
Member

 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ny longisland
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 156
Points: 1,223, Level: 19
Points: 1,223, Level: 19 Points: 1,223, Level: 19 Points: 1,223, Level: 19
Activity: 4.3%
Activity: 4.3% Activity: 4.3% Activity: 4.3%
jacobaudi81
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldpuck81 View Post
Maxima SOLENOID ASSY-POWER STEERING PUMP 49177M Ok, looks like the Maxima SE DOHC has an option for electrically controlled steering pump pressure. The GXE's don't have this. This is part lookup from Courtesy Nissan online parts. I didn't see this in the Nissan FSM.
I really don't know but my 94 GXE has one on the ps pump
Jacobaudi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 07:28 PM   #16
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: DFW- Texas
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 38
Points: 3,461, Level: 36
Points: 3,461, Level: 36 Points: 3,461, Level: 36 Points: 3,461, Level: 36
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Ok, Jacob, I learned something: The FSM shows a PS pressure switch but not on the pump. It's on the hi-pressure line near the firewall. It's designed to detect high power steering pump load on the engine during idle and signals the ECM to bump up the idle while turning the wheels so the engine doesn't die or go below min. idle speed. I've replaced 2 or 3 pumps on my 90 & 94 and never had a pressure switch on the pump itself.
Thanks!

Last edited by oldpuck81; 01-04-2014 at 07:57 PM..
oldpuck81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2014, 09:55 PM   #17
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
One more thing to add to the list ...just noticed that the steering wheel doesn't lock after key is removed from the ignition? How is this related to the install of the the new/reman rack pinion?
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2014, 03:57 PM   #18
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 6,682
Points: 11,702, Level: 71
Points: 11,702, Level: 71 Points: 11,702, Level: 71 Points: 11,702, Level: 71
Activity: 40.0%
Activity: 40.0% Activity: 40.0% Activity: 40.0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starrider View Post
One more thing to add to the list ...just noticed that the steering wheel doesn't lock after key is removed from the ignition? How is this related to the install of the the new/reman rack pinion?
the security lock should be related to the tumbler area in the ignition where you put the key, not the rack
__________________
current
79 Toyota Supra
81 Toyota Hilux 4x4
91 JDM Toyota Crown
00 Chev Silverado 4x4

past
88 Nissan Hardbody KingCab
92 Nissan Maxima GXE
chrome91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2014, 10:56 PM   #19
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 30
Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42 Points: 4,380, Level: 42
Activity: 5.6%
Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6% Activity: 5.6%
Thanks ... good site...hope to keep this old car running a long time!

Last edited by Starrider; 01-21-2014 at 11:06 PM..
Starrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2014, 10:56 PM
MaximaOrg
Nissan Maxima




Paid Advertisement
 
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


 




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:30 AM.


Maxima.org Forums Home Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Frequently Asked Questions on the Forums Search Find other members Registration is free! Support Maxima.org! Receive perks and benefits by donating to Maxima.org Questions? Comments?  Suggestions? Contact Us! Visit our Sponsors View and submit Maxima events Log Out of Maxima.org
Emails Backup