Drag0n97

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Removing my oil pan and doin the gasket should i just use rtv or buy the felpro one??

DennisMik

iTrader: (2)

Use a gasket. If you are near a dealer, check their price. Many times they have the lowest gasket prices.

bullet187

If you use a gasket, do you need to use RTV still?

arcticracer

For oil pans, front timing covers etc I have had great success with rtv Ultra grey. Just don't use more than necessary.

tosheto

iTrader: (5)

I have always used just the gasket maker, no actual gasket.

asand1

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Afaik they come oem with just RTV, no gasket.

Fauken

iTrader: (6)

Lower oil pan has a gasket but its up to you if you want to use one or not. Apply a little RTV if using the gasket. Mine is on without a gasket and using gray rtv

Max_Gator

Nissan does not use gaskets there. And don't use gaskets. Use ultra grey only.

The problem with gaskets on pieces like that is they don't have smooth surfaces and gasket maker matches the imperfections better than a gasket.

The Wizard

iTrader: (43)

Read the FSM...

bprice92

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I tried the fel pro oil pan gasket and it leaked, even after tightening the bolts in the leaking areas, no go.

But I have seen posts here of people who've had success using it, somehow.

Thought of using both rtv and the premade but it's pointless, use just rtv ultra grey or black.

Max_Gator

shhhh. . . .

theWalkinator

I just dropped oil ban couple of weeks ago when I was doing water pump replacement, OEM oil pan does not come with gasket, just RTV so I used utral-grey RTV, so far so good, no leaking.

JvG

I worked on a Toyota Cressida oil pan a while back. Toyota recommended using their sealant. No gasket. The sealant worked great. I do not know if Ultra-gray is better or worse, or cheaper.

schmellyfart

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I used ultra black on my oil pans.

Oops

BlackThornDemon

God I hate rtv. If you've ever had to scrape rtv off of something you know what I mean. I once came across a vehicle that had the air intake rtv'd because the person was too lazy to order a gasket.

Anyways, you can put a gasket on it and hope that it doesn't leak. Or you can hate yourself if you ever have to scrape the rtv off.

My 0.02c: gasket with a drop of rtv between bolts and on corners.

Drag0n97

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The gasket is just a darn piece of rubber but I'm gonna go black rtv I hate scraping it off but I need a new oil pan also after lookin and seeing that it's rottin

BlackThornDemon

Not to be Mr. picky, but the oil pan gasket is actually a paper type. This way it can absorb oil and expand.

Drag0n97

iTrader: (4)

This is true u can get either or but I rather just stick to rtv that's what's on there now just grey

Trini Boom

iTrader: (5)

The only gasket is the tranny oil pan gasket. The engine uses RTV for lower and upper oil pans, timing cover (front and rear).

Nealoc187

iTrader: (23)

use ultra gray.

isandres8884

Well i recently drop the oil panel and bought the gasket and use some black rtv 3months now and no leaks at all.

Drag0n97

iTrader: (4)

Is there's difference btw the ultra grey and black rtv?

BlackThornDemon

RTV is color coded. Each color has special properties. Some colors are good with oil, some with gas, some are high temp, etc.

http://www.permatex.com/products-2/p.../gasket-makers

jfactor

I had to replace the gasket after the frickin mechanic dented my pan jacking up the motor to replace the water pump. I just used a felpro gasket and haven't dripped a drop of oil since.

Drag0n97

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I got the black one it said gasket maker maximum oil resistance

JSutter

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LOL that guy was an idiot. He should not be a mechanic if he made that mistake. Unless he had more than just the timing cover mount off, the engine is not going to move.

nsnrider

iTrader: (59)

I've had much better results with ultra black for lower oil pans due to better oil resistance.

I use ultra gray for all other applications.

BobMax

Anyone tried an anaerobic sealant like Loctite 518?

It only cures in the absence of air, so any extra that you get inside the pan edge when you torque it up just dissolves in your oil. In contrast, the extra RTV breaks off and ends up in your oil pump screen in hardened form. Another make I work on insists on it for just that reason.

As an added benefit, it's easy to scrape off at replacement time as it cures hard, unlike RTV which is always a RPITA.

Drag0n97

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Where do u get the loctite? That sounds like a better idea

Fakie J Farkerton

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Black RTV for oil pan FTW.

Just use a continuous bead and finger tighten the bolts, let it sit for a few hours, then snug it up the rest of the way.

No extra squeezing out that way and you will never need to redo it.

BobMax

I got it here: www.eeuroparts.com, but you can get it at a lot of autoparts stores, Amazon, etc. Permatex has a version too - look for anaerobic sealant.

Drag0n97

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I've always used rtv for gaskets unless otherwise but always good to try something new def will look into that loctite stuff

Fauken

iTrader: (6)

False, while you are right about the lower oil pan, the upper does require two crescent seals. One for the crank pulley, and the other underneath the rear main seal.

Trini Boom

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Yes, I am aware that it uses those two seals but my statement is not false. It is not a gasket that covers the upper oil pan correct? 90% is RTV while the 10% is those half moon seals.

CMax03

iTrader: (3)

I'm currently doing my 1998 VQ30DE upper and lower oil pans and I'm going to use RTV only the way it came....I will let it cure for more than 10 hrs b4 I put oil in it though, Use at least an 1/8" bead of sealant!