Snowmobile Report - VLSD Test
01-06-2017, 03:32 PM
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Snowmobile Report - VLSD Test
Last night we got our first snow for the year. So early this morning before the Dodge Chargers and various types of 1/2 ton 4x2 pickups hit the streets for the usual spin parade, I took the 98 model out for little drive.
Driving the VSLD model is definitely different on snow/ice covered roads. My old Q45 has VLSD so I kind of knew what to expect. Albeit this time from the front instead of rear.
Here's a picture of one of the hills that I climbed with the 98 model below.
You can see the S-tracks I made going up the hill as the VLSD likes to fishtail at the front when it looses traction. I've experienced that same positive traction fishtailing action with the Q45 on ice. With both wheels are slipping, they like to move around instead of holding a straight line like non-VLSD models. It's not a bad thing, just a very different feel.
The tires are Mastercraft A/S at 3/4 life that came with the 98 model when I bought it. I'll keep them rolling till the 17 Juke wheels get some new Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 later in the year.
To get an idea of the slope, here a picture of the car going down on the other side.
Here's another picture driving down the lower ridge that runs up to the turn and final grade in the first picture.
You can see the S-tracks on the opposite side from my drive up the slope.
After I returned home, I took out the 99 model SE with non-VLSD and a 5-speed.
The 99 model is running Continental Extreme Contact DWS A/S tires that are at 1/2 life. The 99 SE car always does ok on snow and ice. Due to it being so predictable, and using 2nd gear for occasional starts, I think I prefer driving it on snow and ice over the automatic with VLSD. I just feel like I have more control when I'm driving it.
Driving the VSLD model is definitely different on snow/ice covered roads. My old Q45 has VLSD so I kind of knew what to expect. Albeit this time from the front instead of rear.
Here's a picture of one of the hills that I climbed with the 98 model below.
You can see the S-tracks I made going up the hill as the VLSD likes to fishtail at the front when it looses traction. I've experienced that same positive traction fishtailing action with the Q45 on ice. With both wheels are slipping, they like to move around instead of holding a straight line like non-VLSD models. It's not a bad thing, just a very different feel.
The tires are Mastercraft A/S at 3/4 life that came with the 98 model when I bought it. I'll keep them rolling till the 17 Juke wheels get some new Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 later in the year.
To get an idea of the slope, here a picture of the car going down on the other side.
Here's another picture driving down the lower ridge that runs up to the turn and final grade in the first picture.
You can see the S-tracks on the opposite side from my drive up the slope.
After I returned home, I took out the 99 model SE with non-VLSD and a 5-speed.
The 99 model is running Continental Extreme Contact DWS A/S tires that are at 1/2 life. The 99 SE car always does ok on snow and ice. Due to it being so predictable, and using 2nd gear for occasional starts, I think I prefer driving it on snow and ice over the automatic with VLSD. I just feel like I have more control when I'm driving it.
Last edited by CS_AR; 01-06-2017 at 04:54 PM.
01-06-2017, 09:14 PM
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When I first got my 5MT VLSD i30 10 years ago.. couldn't believe how well it did in the snow. It would slip both wheels but mange to get up every hill in the snow. I was literally passing cars left from getting stuck or slipping off the road. I also came home to a mound of snow, hood height, in an airport parking lot and I just rocked the car and monstertrucked through it.
01-06-2017, 09:52 PM
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my 95 is always better on snow and ice than most cars/suvs and i have an auto with non-vlsd and yokohama avid envigors. got stuck on a driveway last year cause it was steep and with 1 tire spinning i could'nt get a good enough running start. of course there was ice underneath snow so only my friends all wheel drive benz made it up the driveway.
01-07-2017, 10:16 AM
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my 95 is always better on snow and ice than most cars/suvs and i have an auto with non-vlsd and yokohama avid envigors. got stuck on a driveway last year cause it was steep and with 1 tire spinning i could'nt get a good enough running start. of course there was ice underneath snow so only my friends all wheel drive benz made it up the driveway.
When I first got my 5MT VLSD i30 10 years ago.. couldn't believe how well it did in the snow. It would slip both wheels but mange to get up every hill in the snow. I was literally passing cars left from getting stuck or slipping off the road. I also came home to a mound of snow, hood height, in an airport parking lot and I just rocked the car and monstertrucked through it.
95na, I like your wheel choices in see in your sig line. Very cool indeed.
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01-20-2017, 05:53 PM
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My 99 SE has Traction Control and Pirelli P7s. It does OK in snow because of the tires. But just OK. When I bought it new and the Goodyears wore out, I bought Bridgestone all season tires that channeled rain out and stuck like glue. Dry too. But snow, like banana peels. By then I really hated this Maxima. My car before it was an 88 Maxima and LSD was standard. It climbed up snow covered hills faster than Audis with cheap Sprint tires. Ski country was never a problem.
I don't know if LSD and traction control is/was even an option. But if it was, it would help. Along with real snow tires.
When I had my transmission rebuilt and it cost $3400 on the 99, I was sorry I didn't find a used LSD and have that rebuilt. Everything was toasted in mine, couldn't have costed more. (4 1/2 years ago)
And finally I read a review from a discerning Maxima guy with a high level of mechanical skills to find out he's not too impressed. OUCH!
The world has gone sideways! LOL
Your rebuilds are beyond impressive! I haz jealousy!
I don't know if LSD and traction control is/was even an option. But if it was, it would help. Along with real snow tires.
When I had my transmission rebuilt and it cost $3400 on the 99, I was sorry I didn't find a used LSD and have that rebuilt. Everything was toasted in mine, couldn't have costed more. (4 1/2 years ago)
And finally I read a review from a discerning Maxima guy with a high level of mechanical skills to find out he's not too impressed. OUCH!
The world has gone sideways! LOL
Your rebuilds are beyond impressive! I haz jealousy!
01-20-2017, 06:51 PM
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My 99 SE has Traction Control and Pirelli P7s. It does OK in snow because of the tires. But just OK. When I bought it new and the Goodyears wore out, I bought Bridgestone all season tires that channeled rain out and stuck like glue. Dry too. But snow, like banana peels. By then I really hated this Maxima. My car before it was an 88 Maxima and LSD was standard. It climbed up snow covered hills faster than Audis with cheap Sprint tires. Ski country was never a problem.
I don't know if LSD and traction control is/was even an option. But if it was, it would help. Along with real snow tires.
When I had my transmission rebuilt and it cost $3400 on the 99, I was sorry I didn't find a used LSD and have that rebuilt. Everything was toasted in mine, couldn't have costed more. (4 1/2 years ago)
And finally I read a review from a discerning Maxima guy with a high level of mechanical skills to find out he's not too impressed. OUCH!
The world has gone sideways! LOL
Your rebuilds are beyond impressive! I haz jealousy!
I don't know if LSD and traction control is/was even an option. But if it was, it would help. Along with real snow tires.
When I had my transmission rebuilt and it cost $3400 on the 99, I was sorry I didn't find a used LSD and have that rebuilt. Everything was toasted in mine, couldn't have costed more. (4 1/2 years ago)
And finally I read a review from a discerning Maxima guy with a high level of mechanical skills to find out he's not too impressed. OUCH!
The world has gone sideways! LOL
Your rebuilds are beyond impressive! I haz jealousy!
Its getting a lot of priority right now.
Last edited by CS_AR; 01-21-2017 at 05:58 AM.
