Duralast Gold Cmax/ceramic vs Wagner Thermoquiet
#1
Duralast Gold Cmax/ceramic vs Wagner Thermoquiet
Hi,
I have tried Raybestos QS (Great but lasted 25k), Raybestos Raymold (sucked, dusted a lot), Satisfied Pro Ceramic (Great, lasted 10 K).
Looks like Wagner is available on Amazon for 34.08 bucks - is that a good deal ?
I also want to try the Ceramic Autozone brand (tried Duralast gold metallic for my Nissan Quest, those were awful) - available for 54.99 in California. Are these brake pads any good ?
Any opinions about which one is better ? I mainly use car for commute - no racing, but occasional ride in the twisties (Yosemite, Sierras, Tahoe trips).
Thanks,
I have tried Raybestos QS (Great but lasted 25k), Raybestos Raymold (sucked, dusted a lot), Satisfied Pro Ceramic (Great, lasted 10 K).
Looks like Wagner is available on Amazon for 34.08 bucks - is that a good deal ?
I also want to try the Ceramic Autozone brand (tried Duralast gold metallic for my Nissan Quest, those were awful) - available for 54.99 in California. Are these brake pads any good ?
Any opinions about which one is better ? I mainly use car for commute - no racing, but occasional ride in the twisties (Yosemite, Sierras, Tahoe trips).
Thanks,
Last edited by mbhang; 11-29-2010 at 07:41 PM.
#2
Hi,
I have tried Raybestos QS (Great but lasted 25k), Raybestos Raymold (sucked, dusted a lot), Satisfied Pro Ceramic (Great, lasted 10 K).
I want to try the Ceramic Autozone brand (tried Duralast gold metallic for my Nissan Quest, those were awful).
Any opinions ?
Thanks,
I have tried Raybestos QS (Great but lasted 25k), Raybestos Raymold (sucked, dusted a lot), Satisfied Pro Ceramic (Great, lasted 10 K).
I want to try the Ceramic Autozone brand (tried Duralast gold metallic for my Nissan Quest, those were awful).
Any opinions ?
Thanks,
Can't really speak for any of these first hand (at least not yet) but the guys at the auto parts store were swearing up and down about how great the Wagner Thermoquiets were...
#3
i actually have the thermoquiets i think there great! i installed them this past summer. they stop good, they dont squeal, and i still have about 7mm left on them. i highly recommend them. i also cut my rotors and lubed my slides this is a must with any brake job. 35 bones is a great deal. jump on it! i paid 60 and i have no regrets. the best part about ceramics is no lock up and no ugly nasty thick black dust all over you rims
#5
I have used the Autozone Ceramic pads on my mothers A33 I30. They were great for the way she drove it around town, and they stopped much better than the stock pads when I would beat on it. Brake dust wasn't too bad at all either. I would recommend them to anyone, and I will be using them again on my car.
#7
Personally, I've been pretty satisfied with the thermoquiets. I havent used much in terms of "good" pads, but they sure beat the hell out of the cheapies. I did buy a set of Napa's brand pads(I only wish I recalled which ones) they "listed" for around $90 and were fantastic pads, virtually no dust, quite and very very rarely showed any fade, great for a daily driver pad. Wish my buddy still worked at napa The napa's were the only ones I've experienced that were any better but for $35 I'd go for it as well.
#8
I have the Wagner THermoquiet too, but its some really cheap version, I remember paying $20 for the front two pads. But they quality was horribly and they squeal a bit.
But I got what I payed for LOL
But I got what I payed for LOL
#9
I just had my brakes done and they put some crappy semi-metallic $23 pad on. Brakes worked great but the drivers side front had a high pitched squeal about 1/2 the time. It was like fingers on a chalkboard. Went back and switched to the Raybestos QS (what I had on before) and they are very quiet. I know they won't last as long but at least I won't be embarassed everytime I press the brake pedal.
#10
i have teh ceramics from advance..used them AT LEAST 30k miles if not more, still on them, but the pedal feels the need of a replacement..but its upgrade time for me..but i love ceramics as a daily...no brake dust ftw!!
#11
axxis ultimate!!! i have used many different pads throughout the years these pads are the most versatile pads i have ever used. They will not fade from street driving unless you are a complete a-hole! lol
but they dont need much heat up like a lot of brakes with high fade temps. before i purchased those pads i called them and asked questions about em they had no clue what i was talking about and eventually transfered me to an engineer long store short they are at their best from 250-1000 degrees and initial bite is huge!
okay just my .02 who wants the soap box next?
but they dont need much heat up like a lot of brakes with high fade temps. before i purchased those pads i called them and asked questions about em they had no clue what i was talking about and eventually transfered me to an engineer long store short they are at their best from 250-1000 degrees and initial bite is huge!
okay just my .02 who wants the soap box next?
#14
http://www.amazon.com/Akebono-ACT526...1153821&sr=1-1
I did plenty of research before I bought these pads. If you want quiet pads that don't dust much, stop well for normal driving, and last a long time (>40k miles reported on tirerack all the time) you only have one choice. The other ceramic pads out there may work ok but don't last long.
#15
Hawk pads, Axxis ultimate, etc...are you guys reading what the op said about his driving habits? Any brake expert will tell you that there is no such thing as the perfect all around pad, they all have a targeted driving audience. If the OP doesn't race or brake hard constantly then pads that require heating up to perform optimally are a bad suggestion. Plus, those pads cost more and he won't reap the benefit with his driving habits.
http://www.amazon.com/Akebono-ACT526...1153821&sr=1-1
I did plenty of research before I bought these pads. If you want quiet pads that don't dust much, stop well for normal driving, and last a long time (>40k miles reported on tirerack all the time) you only have one choice. The other ceramic pads out there may work ok but don't last long.
http://www.amazon.com/Akebono-ACT526...1153821&sr=1-1
I did plenty of research before I bought these pads. If you want quiet pads that don't dust much, stop well for normal driving, and last a long time (>40k miles reported on tirerack all the time) you only have one choice. The other ceramic pads out there may work ok but don't last long.
why crap on my suggestion?
you have a different opinion than i do, doesnt mean you=right me=wrong.
i just install a set of axxis pads on my moms mini van lol, she loves them she told me she had to get used to braking as initial bite was hard(my words not hers) ...no warm up time. i paid 35 (your recommendation is $50) for the front pads my father has them on his Camry he now has 40k+ miles on em and they still have meat
this was my suggestion
the op ask for opinions on a couple selections he narrowed it down to, you ALSO went to a different recommendation, so again why are you right and we are wrong?
#16
why crap on my suggestion?
you have a different opinion than i do, doesnt mean you=right me=wrong.
i just install a set of axxis pads on my moms mini van lol, she loves them she told me she had to get used to braking as initial bite was hard(my words not hers) ...no warm up time. i paid 35 (your recommendation is $50) for the front pads my father has them on his Camry he now has 40k+ miles on em and they still have meat
this was my suggestion
the op ask for opinions on a couple selections he narrowed it down to, you ALSO went to a different recommendation, so again why are you right and we are wrong?
you have a different opinion than i do, doesnt mean you=right me=wrong.
i just install a set of axxis pads on my moms mini van lol, she loves them she told me she had to get used to braking as initial bite was hard(my words not hers) ...no warm up time. i paid 35 (your recommendation is $50) for the front pads my father has them on his Camry he now has 40k+ miles on em and they still have meat
this was my suggestion
the op ask for opinions on a couple selections he narrowed it down to, you ALSO went to a different recommendation, so again why are you right and we are wrong?
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This forum is for suggestions, opinions ect. to help people service/maintain their vehicle. Please step away from the keyboard and let the OP read and make his own decision.
#19
Obviously these are just my opinions and I intended nothing but to be helpful. I don't agree with your assessments of why to choose one pad over another. I apologize if I came off as insulting. I was just trying to offer my opinion as well.
#20
I will post my opinions after I install the same.
I will try Hawk HPS next time around - looks like a lot of people have good things to say about these.
Thanks,
#22
+1 Kel456
Hawk's or Oem's, you can do a lot worse than the oem bi-metal pads
Oem -low dust, good stopping power, long life 35K miles conservative, I got 40K on a set
Hawks- a bit dusty, superb stopping power, lower life span 30K
Hawk's or Oem's, you can do a lot worse than the oem bi-metal pads
Oem -low dust, good stopping power, long life 35K miles conservative, I got 40K on a set
Hawks- a bit dusty, superb stopping power, lower life span 30K
#23
I haven't changed the pads on my Max yet, but I have used Thermoquiets in the past and they are excellent. I had 35k on them before I sold the car and they still have probably 15k more to go.
#25
ive had excellent luck with Bendix pads. Just put a set on my parents murano and there great. Minimal dust no noise and they stop great. You can get them at rockauto.com. Bendix manufactures most oem pads too.
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