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Old 03-11-2012, 05:12 PM   #1
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Change brake fluid

I am coming up on the 15000 mi service and was looking at the things that should be done, One thing caught me by surprise, "Changing brake fluid " granted it is only due on the "More severe" items, but wondering why Nissan wants the brake fluid changed every year or 15000 mi.
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I was curious about the same. I picked up my '12 S with 15k on it. The previous owner had it for 11 mos and put that much on it, another 200 miles or so came from dealer/test drive.

My assumption, the previous driver did some heavy driving in high heat climate(Hemet, Ca)

Dealer pre-owned inspection report said breaks were F60% R70%

Reading the threads I don't see anyone that replaced fluid at 15k, this being somewhat of an older thread - has anyone done it yet, was it really necessary, would it prolong break life or just provide a smoother feel...??
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Many manufacturers are now indicatating brake fluid replacement at certain intervals and it's pretty obvious why...the stuff does degrade over time.
I'm at about 25K and will perform this service (myself of course) likely sometime this summer. I just changed out the fluid in my truck after replacing the front rotors and pads and the BF looked almost milky in color.
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Flushing is becoming more and more common in owner's manuals.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-p...-necessary.htm
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They changed the requirement a year or two ago. Earlier 7G Maximas didn't require it so soon...perhaps a few years of repair data indicated that it's best to replace at 15K. I refused to do it at 15K though...as that sounded really premature.

I just did it a few weeks ago at like 22K. The dealer told me Nissan only required a parial flush, where they only replace like half the fluid for $90. A full flush cost me $120, and I told them to do the full flush. I can afford $30 more dollars.

I should be good for another 22K miles. I don't care what Nissan says
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They changed the requirement a year or two ago. Earlier 7G Maximas didn't require it so soon...perhaps a few years of repair data indicated that it's best to replace at 15K. I refused to do it at 15K though...as that sounded really premature.

I just did it a few weeks ago at like 22K. The dealer told me Nissan only required a parial flush, where they only replace like half the fluid for $90. A full flush cost me $120, and I told them to do the full flush. I can afford $30 more dollars.

I should be good for another 22K miles. I don't care what Nissan says
Yeah, I believe the partial flush is just R&R of the fluid in the master cylinder. Smarter to go with the full meal deal.
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Flushing is becoming more and more common in owner's manuals.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-p...-necessary.htm
Very good article, thanks! This surely reinforced the idea that its now a routine maintenance action, like changing oil.
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Got my fluid changed today on the house courtesy of Nissan not fully inspecting my vehicle during the Certified inspection process. A placard in the dealership said thy charged $150 for this.

Car has 16k on it and I can notice the difference right away with the new fluid. I don't need to compress the peddle as far and it's much smoother overall.

Def recommend this maintenance for anyone that feels they belong in the premium category.
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They only time I have ever flushed Brake Fluid is when I changed the pads/shoes. But then again, I have never boiled my fluid and generally go about 100 to 200K between needing shoes/pads. I am at 210K now and have yet to replace my pads on my 7th Gen. But then again, with the exception of some British and Italian cars I owned in the 70s and 80s, my driving style has been one of NOT using the brakes as much as possible.
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They only time I have ever flushed Brake Fluid is when I changed the pads/shoes. But then again, I have never boiled my fluid and generally go about 100 to 200K between needing shoes/pads. I am at 210K now and have yet to replace my pads on my 7th Gen. But then again, with the exception of some British and Italian cars I owned in the 70s and 80s, my driving style has been one of NOT using the brakes as much as possible.
I noticed you have an '09 and I can't comment on what your service manual states. However, for my '12 Premium Service asks for a change at every 15k, regular service asks to do it at 30k. Not sure if this was changed from the '09-'12 years.

Nevertheless I noticed a huge difference in the feel of the peddle.

I can't speak about boiling points but I assume it boils every time as a result of friction. Check the link another member provided to this thread of you haven't already. It will certainly change your perspective on break fluid being a routine maintenance change.
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It will certainly change your perspective on break fluid being a routine maintenance change.
LMAO...I am from Missouri!!!! I would have to see it to believe it!!!

I don't doubt it helped you but in 40 years I haven't seen or felt the difference unless there was a systemic underlying cause (Note I own the phrase "with my driving style and maintenance routines." I have no doubt that others may indeed benefit...it is just that I never have.



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What individual dealers do is up to them, but 15k brake fluid changes is pretty short and I doubt most owners are not changing the fluid out until a brake pad change.

Can someone post this new 2012 maintenance guide
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What individual dealers do is up to them, but 15k brake fluid changes is pretty short and I doubt most owners are not changing the fluid out until a brake pad change.

Can someone post this new 2012 maintenance guide
Not individual dealers its now Nissan providing this.

I suggest reading the very informative link another provided, it may help explain it better.

Then here you go....http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/refgh...san-Maxima.pdf
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LMAO...I am from Missouri!!!! I would have to see it to believe it!!!

I don't doubt it helped you but in 40 years I haven't seen or felt the difference unless there was a systemic underlying cause (Note I own the phrase "with my driving style and maintenance routines." I have no doubt that others may indeed benefit...it is just that I never have.



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I agree and with your initial response as well.
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Not individual dealers its now Nissan providing this.

I suggest reading the very informative link another provided, it may help explain it better.

Then here you go....http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/refgh...san-Maxima.pdf
I read that link, nothing new and I don't see a page in the owners manual listing a brake fluid change, is it in the maintenance manual, I was a tech back in 96, worked on Nissans and BMWs for way to long, but after seeing cars go 200k with all factory fluids, with an occasional oil change I realized not to over react when owners have not changed anything, fluids are under rated because owners will far exceed the useable life before changing anything
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I read that link, nothing new and I don't see a page in the owners manual listing a brake fluid change, is it in the maintenance manual, I was a tech back in 96, worked on Nissans and BMWs for way to long, but after seeing cars go 200k with all factory fluids, with an occasional oil change I realized not to over react when owners have not changed anything, fluids are under rated because owners will far exceed the useable life before changing anything
Sorry here is the correct link - https://owners.nissanusa.com/content...ance-guide.pdf

The thing I took from the link provided by another member is that break fluid absorbs water and breaks down over time, causing performance issues.

From first hand experience my car fell under the premium service and as a result I got it changed. I noticed an immediate difference.
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Sorry here is the correct link - https://owners.nissanusa.com/content...ance-guide.pdf

The thing I took from the link provided by another member is that break fluid absorbs water and breaks down over time, causing performance issues.

From first hand experience my car fell under the premium service and as a result I got it changed. I noticed an immediate difference.
No problem, I just use the old school BMW maintenance guidelines, and they always recommended 2 years or 24 months for break fluid, but Im gonna flush out my brake fluid and fill it up with dot 5 after I do some more research, its suppose to not absorb moisture like 3&4
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No problem, I just use the old school BMW maintenance guidelines, and they always recommended 2 years or 24 months for break fluid, but Im gonna flush out my brake fluid and fill it up with dot 5 after I do some more research, its suppose to not absorb moisture like 3&4
Do not use DOT 5! ESPECIALLY on a system the uses DOT 3/4! Dot 5 is compressible and will leave your brakes with a "squishy" feel, it can also damage seals! You're right DOT 5 is hydrophobic and doesn't absorb water, it's a silicone based fluid unlike DOT 3/4, which is polyethylene glycol. If you're looking for performance get a Racing DOT 3/4.

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