humaras

I was wondering if anyone has any comment regarding teh firestone firehawk sh30 tires. I was just ordering my tires from tirerack and this guy suggested these sh30's over the dunlop sp5000's. I have posted and everyone that has use the sp5000 has had very positive comments. I wasn't sure so I figured I ask anyone who might have used these to comment on their performance. I was reading the tirerack site afterwards, and it seems that the firehawk sh30 has very good dry, wet and decent snow handling.
I appreciate any comments.
here is the link if anyone is interested in reading about it. They are pretty cheap (price wise too).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/firestone/fs_sh30.jsp
thank you =)

deathwish

I wonder why they're so cheap

Jeff92se

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The Firestones in question only cover the tires that were made in that one particular plant I believe. And it was the workmanship, not the design I believe. So I would say(again) not to purchase the kind of tires made at that plant. It's probably only that tire or truck tires made there.

I belive every major automobile maker has had at least one safetly related recall. So we all should avoid all cars now?? Everyone was not speaking so highly of Audi about 10 years back.

deathwish

Ummm... where did I say it was a bad tire?

Anyway, the issue here isn't a safety related recall, it's whether firestone was aware of this problem and choose to ignore it.

Jeff92se

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by your post then. That they are the greatest tire on the planet Earth because they are so cheap?

All makers are aware of recall problems. Whether or not Firestone "chose to ingore it" is debatable. Do we really know how long a maker knows about a problem before they issue their recall notice?? Maybe the media just chose to jump on Firestone in this case because it's easy and it's good for ratings.

deathwish

My post was meant to be a joke about the cost of firestone tires in light of the financial disaster they are facing. If you want to read more into it than that, go for it.

Stillnmax

well this morning i was waking up to the TV and well i got my bottle of water and !@#$!#@!#@@!$#%#@^$#$@% i stubbed my Toe !!! guess what i am launching a Class Action Suit against them anybody else want in .......


not only the workmanship but did you know FORD Recommended a tire pressure lower than what Firestone did so maybe that was the problem - Ford didnt want Rollovers - but at the same time it wasnt the right pressure so the tires got overheated and may have seperated ?!@??@?@? thats what ive heard ...

Jeff92se

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If Firestone is in a finanical disaster, it's not becuase the the poor sale of that one brand, it's people(not you apparently) wrongly associate the one bad tire to all the Firestone line.

And I don't think Firestone has restructured the tire pricing to offset their "finanical disaster" so I guess I didn't get your joke. Sorry.

shane

I had those tires in 15 inch.I really liked them and are a very good tires.I had them for about 7000 or so miles then I bought new wheels in 16 inch.I would get them again if they come in the size I need.

humaras

funny--I really enjoyed how everyone interacts here without any hard feelings (I hope!!).
I think that there might have been some problems with the tires--and Ford had its fingers in the cookie jar too trying to cover up--heck, it is pretty expensive to to tell the people who are buying your bread and butter explorers "hey, pssst...potential buyer of this vehicle, just wanted to tell you that you have a slight chance of getting maimed." These people would be outta their freaking minds to then go buy the car. In any case, both are to blame and lets see how they handle the situation. I know that Mr. Ford himself (Jacque Nassar) has decline to go to washington to testify, while mr. brigestone/firestone (ono) is showing up in front of congress for a grillin'.

well, I was just curious if anyone used the tires/ anything good/bad to share...
alright, hope everyone is going to wake up and be cheery!!
=)

Kenneth

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i have them in 215-60-15 proportions (~under $60 tire) and they are great for rain, above-average in dry. i had brigestone re92s and recommend these over them, e-mail if you got more questions or post here.

Blade_99SE

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about as good as the stock Goodyear GSA. Unforturatly I didn't get enough time on the Auto-x event with Deathwish's car. Right now his car was experincing the same issues as my maxima with the stock GSA's. The SP5000 and GSA are definatly a compromise type tires. They work well in the rain and snow but on dry pavement they don't even come close to a performance tire such are the Bridgestone RE730's.

My advice to you would be buy a higher performance tire if your looking for more dry weather perfomance but if you live in a place where it snows, then don't even look at the higher performance type tires.

BTW I love my RE730 they are alsome totaly stable at 150mph {in my supra}. As for the maxima I don't plan on losing another auto-x event with these tires. The side walls are very firm hardly and roll over at the limit, but at highway speeds the tires are totally quiet and smooth. The reason I brought these tires instead of the RE71's is the RE730 have a 300 treadware instead of the 140 theadware of the RE71. I just didn't feel like replacing my tires every year.

Good luck on you choice.

Turbo95Max

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ahh
time for me to jump in and post

Working at Firestone you'd prolly say im baised towards them. I Dont think its completely Firestons fault nor completely Ford. But honestly, i think its more Ford. 85% of the blow outs happen on the rear right tire. of all the Wilderness AT tires out there, the ones that failed were .0002% The most recent tire seperation they blamed on Firesone, but when it was investagated further, that Explorer had Michellin tires on it. What i hate is alot of people hear the news and automatically think ALL firestone tires are bad and defective. Ive had customers come in with Escorts, Oldsmobile demanding to have their tires changed. even been threatened by alot of angry Explorer owners.

deathwish

I've never used the stock Goodyears, but all I can say is that the SP5000's are hella better than the toyo proxies. True, they are not an all out performance tire, but if you want a tire that has decent grip, quiet comfortable ride, good treadlife, and snow capability, I don't think the SP5000's can be beat. Now if you want an all out dry performance tire, well that's a different story...

humaras

so these tires are okay with you?
no squealing of tires when cornering tightly? I just wanted something reliable and pretty decent for the upcoming winter. I posted earlier on my horror stories this past winter in these stock Yokohoma A376 radials (nightmare).

where did you get such a good deal on these tires--for under 60 a piece? Most stores sell it for about 90 a piece and with mounting and balancing--it is almost 100 dollars a piece.

BTW, Turbomax--since you work at firestone--any comments about these tires? are they running any specials on them--or would you know where I can get them at an affordable price?

I wish they had the dunlop sp5000 in the 215/60 15" size...

Kenneth

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i ran into a sale and paid 3 something with balance, mount, warranty etc. at a military base, no taxes there.

these are your best option overall in all-seasons imo. i had them squeal (pre-upgraded suspension) because i was testing their limits over 30mph faster than most people curve at intersections. normally no noises & dry traction is great. don't know about snow since we have none in tejas.

Eric L.

I think people should avoid generalizing over the whole Firestone deal. Whoever posted that the situation is more about not disclosing information on possible defects is correct. It has nothing to do with any suggestion that ALL firestones are bad.

I did, in fact, drive a 2000 Ford Explorer at Edmunds Live! this past weekend, and it had the recalled Firestones on it. And you know what? The Explorer handled better than the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Nissan Pathfinder, and Toyota 4Runner? And the biggest surprise? It was because of the tires! The event had a small autocross track set up, and I thought the Explorer must have had non off road tires. Wrong, they were Firestone Wilderness AT! Very strong tire grip. I think the tread separation had to do with low tire inflation in part.

Max96

I got the tires, they suck in the handling dept. I have yet to see a better tire in the rain though. If you like a soft, smooth ride, get them. If you want good cornering and handling, get a Z-rated tire.

Turbo95Max

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Lemme know what size and particular tire your looking for and i can check on the price. Im located in South SF.

Yea, as i said, most of the information people receive is from the Media, and its not always entirely correct or things are left out. Those blow outs, did they say how many miles were on the tires? did they say the estimated tire inflation? the Tires should be around 30psi, but when Ford did their rollover tests, 30psi wasnt good for rollover rates, so instead of redesigning the chassis, why not lower tire pressure to 26psi? that would solve the rollover problem. bam, now there are other problems. There are so many Firestone tires out, but yet its mainly only the Explorer that has problems. Maybe it has to do with tires at the Decautur plant or maybe has to do with Ford. Maybe both

Jeff92se

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I mean 90% of all Americans don't even THINK about checking their tire pressures. Meaning there's probably alot of underinflated tires running around without any problems. I can't see a tire maker designing a tire that is unsafe at only 4 psi lower than the recommended.

The plant was having a worker strike when these tires were made. Probably some very poor workmanship during that period.

Washington DC Maxima

it will all come out in the wash.. You'll see. This issue could spead and probably will spread to other manufacturers soon especially tires with B B speed/traction ratings. But most likely wont affect there performance tires..

Washington DC Maxima

Ford for trying to be cheap and Firestone for being greedy.. ie..Daily Business practices..

Right rears are usually the most worn tires on vehicles especially SUV's since it is harder to estimate curbs, brush, boulders etc.. on that side of the vehicle.

Washington DC Maxima

Ford for trying to be cheap and Firestone for being greedy.. ie..Daily Business practices..

Right rears are usually the most worn tires on vehicles especially SUV's since it is harder to estimate curbs, brush, boulders etc.. on that side of the vehicle.

humaras

Hey, I really appreciate you looking into the price for me. The last time I called a firestone shop by my girlfriend's house in NJ, they said that if I bought three, the fourth one is free--is there some sort of promo going on?
yes, I would be interested in the 215/60 15" size...
if you can provide me with any sort of price--I'd greatly appreciate that.
=)Brian

JJW95SC

I bought the SP5K's precisely because they are a compromise tire. NJ weather dictates the need for a tire that does well in snow and rain as well as sun. I'm happy to say that the SP5K does that and also provides very predictable dry performance during 'spirited' driving.

Jim