Now Available * 5g Subframe Collars!
03-05-2010, 03:19 PM
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Now Available * 5g Subframe Collars!
Want better handling and more precise steering?
Want a smoother ride with that stiff suspension and big wheels?
Want to reduce wheel hop?
Then you need this subframe reinforcement kit!
According to feedback from all the people that have tested this product, this is a “must have” upgrade for any Maxima, stock or modified, manual or auto.
After testing on many cars, with various levels of modification and power, I’m pleased to be able to offer this kit to all 5th gen Maxima drivers. It is an 8 piece set of front subframe reinforcement collars. The subframe on the Maxima has long been ignored, but is critical in properly transmitting power to the tires as well as locating the suspension components to maintain alignment geometry.
These precision machined collars remove the slack from the mounting points of the subframe, allowing the suspension to absorb road bumps more effectively and the drivetrain to smoothly put the power down as it will now be better tied in to the actual chassis of your Maxima. The squishy mounts were barely adequate on the stock car when new, and with age and upgrades to the car, this reinforcement is a must.
Installation of this kit it fairly simple and can be done in under 1 hour by those with a basic automotive tool set. The kit includes a diagram and complete instructions to make this a DIY project.
To give you an idea of where these pieces go, here’s a diagram of the 5th gen front subframe:
As can be seen, the suspension, engine/trans, and steering all mount to the subframe! You can imagine that it’s not something you want to have moving around uncontrollably, especially if you’ve already gone through the trouble of upgrading all control arm and motor mount bushings!
As an introductory sale, this kit is available immediately for only $89.01 shipped! You can submit payment through paypal to idsi.corp@gmail.com . Please include year of the car, your maxima.org screen name, and a confirmed paypal mailing address.
Want a smoother ride with that stiff suspension and big wheels?
Want to reduce wheel hop?
Then you need this subframe reinforcement kit!
According to feedback from all the people that have tested this product, this is a “must have” upgrade for any Maxima, stock or modified, manual or auto.
After testing on many cars, with various levels of modification and power, I’m pleased to be able to offer this kit to all 5th gen Maxima drivers. It is an 8 piece set of front subframe reinforcement collars. The subframe on the Maxima has long been ignored, but is critical in properly transmitting power to the tires as well as locating the suspension components to maintain alignment geometry.
These precision machined collars remove the slack from the mounting points of the subframe, allowing the suspension to absorb road bumps more effectively and the drivetrain to smoothly put the power down as it will now be better tied in to the actual chassis of your Maxima. The squishy mounts were barely adequate on the stock car when new, and with age and upgrades to the car, this reinforcement is a must.
Installation of this kit it fairly simple and can be done in under 1 hour by those with a basic automotive tool set. The kit includes a diagram and complete instructions to make this a DIY project.
To give you an idea of where these pieces go, here’s a diagram of the 5th gen front subframe:
As can be seen, the suspension, engine/trans, and steering all mount to the subframe! You can imagine that it’s not something you want to have moving around uncontrollably, especially if you’ve already gone through the trouble of upgrading all control arm and motor mount bushings!
As an introductory sale, this kit is available immediately for only $89.01 shipped! You can submit payment through paypal to idsi.corp@gmail.com . Please include year of the car, your maxima.org screen name, and a confirmed paypal mailing address.
03-07-2010, 12:24 AM
#4
Here's my review from the 4th gen sale thread:
I was one of the test subjects for these on the 5th gens. So I'll toss in my .02 cents.
A little background: the subframe on a Maxima is held in place by several bolts threaded through bushings that are pressed into the subframe. These bushings are in place to minimize engine vibration and road noise being transmitted into the cabin of the car making it quieter. Over time these bushings tend to break down due to heat, age and use. Once they do break down they tend to cause sloppy handling, sloppy steering response and allow your engine/transmission to slap around when you are accelerating/decelerating. Many Maxima enthusiasts that invest into their cars spend $1000s on suspension-tightening springs, struts, tie-bars sway bars etc. without considering that 1000Lb (I'm guessing here) mass slapping around by it's connecting points.
What these do: In essence they eliminate the movement of the subframe without making it completely solid. Why not just make it solid? Because engine vibration will crack steel and will certainly make our cars too harsh for everyday use. Think about it this way, a go-kart is a fun little vehicle, quick, maneuverable but nothing you will want to commute to work in. These collars while making your subframe stiffer will still absorb much of the vibration from the engine and continue to isolate a majority of the roadnoise that transmits through your axles and into your drivetrain.
My review: For the price you won't find a suspension mod that makes this much difference in the way your car feels. Steering is much tighter, accel/decel becomes very crisp even if you have the stock motor/tranny mounts and the front end of your car will feel so much more solid. The only drawback if you consider it a drawback is you will hear more engine and road noise inside the cab but it's minimal, nothing another click up on the volume **** on the stereo won't overcome. Another element to these is they do force your struts and A-arms to, well you know be parts of the suspension and absorb bumps in the road. So, minor road imperfections like rocks and drunk bumps won't be as jarring to your car.
I was one of the test subjects for these on the 5th gens. So I'll toss in my .02 cents.
A little background: the subframe on a Maxima is held in place by several bolts threaded through bushings that are pressed into the subframe. These bushings are in place to minimize engine vibration and road noise being transmitted into the cabin of the car making it quieter. Over time these bushings tend to break down due to heat, age and use. Once they do break down they tend to cause sloppy handling, sloppy steering response and allow your engine/transmission to slap around when you are accelerating/decelerating. Many Maxima enthusiasts that invest into their cars spend $1000s on suspension-tightening springs, struts, tie-bars sway bars etc. without considering that 1000Lb (I'm guessing here) mass slapping around by it's connecting points.
What these do: In essence they eliminate the movement of the subframe without making it completely solid. Why not just make it solid? Because engine vibration will crack steel and will certainly make our cars too harsh for everyday use. Think about it this way, a go-kart is a fun little vehicle, quick, maneuverable but nothing you will want to commute to work in. These collars while making your subframe stiffer will still absorb much of the vibration from the engine and continue to isolate a majority of the roadnoise that transmits through your axles and into your drivetrain.
My review: For the price you won't find a suspension mod that makes this much difference in the way your car feels. Steering is much tighter, accel/decel becomes very crisp even if you have the stock motor/tranny mounts and the front end of your car will feel so much more solid. The only drawback if you consider it a drawback is you will hear more engine and road noise inside the cab but it's minimal, nothing another click up on the volume **** on the stereo won't overcome. Another element to these is they do force your struts and A-arms to, well you know be parts of the suspension and absorb bumps in the road. So, minor road imperfections like rocks and drunk bumps won't be as jarring to your car.
03-12-2010, 06:17 AM
#15
in for reviews,... specifically.. the laws review.. I trust your opinion after seeing all your videos and pics and reviews on other stuff,..
could you do all of us a favor and snap some pics while your throwing these in,..and of course.. give a review
could you do all of us a favor and snap some pics while your throwing these in,..and of course.. give a review
03-12-2010, 02:15 PM
#17
had the collars installed today on my 00GLE took lil over an hour but well worth it, you all will not be dissapointed, as soon as i drove out the garage i noticed a huge difference & when i hit the freeway man it felt great i am really happy with these subframe collars
03-14-2010, 04:44 AM
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03-14-2010, 08:58 PM
#19
do you hear more road noise like another user had mentioned?
03-15-2010, 07:15 AM
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03-15-2010, 01:15 PM
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03-15-2010, 08:36 PM
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03-17-2010, 11:42 AM
#31
I would think that they would be using the paypal USPS shipping method which means it would automatically generate a tracking number. Also I sent him a PM as well as another 4th gen member and he has yet to respond to it at all. Its been about a week with no response and that is no way to run a company.
03-17-2010, 07:05 PM
#32
I would think that they would be using the paypal USPS shipping method which means it would automatically generate a tracking number. Also I sent him a PM as well as another 4th gen member and he has yet to respond to it at all. Its been about a week with no response and that is no way to run a company.
I don't know who's to blame here, but a week between payment and shipping borders on unreasonable in terms of delay.
That said, a lot of the uncertainty and dissatisfaction with the shipping of these things could be alleviated with a simple post explaining the reason for the delay and/or lack of communication.
03-18-2010, 02:51 PM
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look guys, there is a bit of delay from orders, making the part and shipping. As orders ramp up it will become consistent and the kinks will be worked out.
If you like I don't have to sell Maxima parts, the market isnt that great and I just do it for the community and because I'm a Maxima owner.
As we go on shipping time will be greatly reduced, I just want to make sure the product goes out correctly and with no mistakes.
If you like I don't have to sell Maxima parts, the market isnt that great and I just do it for the community and because I'm a Maxima owner.
As we go on shipping time will be greatly reduced, I just want to make sure the product goes out correctly and with no mistakes.
