on_alert

Hey guys,
I know this isnt maxima related, but this is still my main board, and I value your opinions...

My original rb26dett supplier fell through... grrr...
It was going to be: R32 GT-R clip: rb26dett w/ 4k miles and AWD tranny for 5500

Now I have 2 options, and both are in stock in the US, ready to ship...

1) R32 clip: rb26dett w/ 60k and RWD trans. also comes with rear dif, and skyline multi-piston brakes (4 piston ft, 2 piston rear) for all 4 corners. I think the parts are also included to do a 5 bolt conversion. Only thing that scares me is the mileage. I have pics here www.eng.buffalo.edu/~ctnewman (look for the ones put up dec-27) price: $5000

2) R34 motorset: rb26dett with RWD trans and less than 5k miles, comes with uncut harness and ecu. Price: $7000

I know that the R34 is rated at 330 HP, the R32 is rated at 280. I think tha the engine wasnt changed tho (or not very much), only the rating, but i know it has BB turbos. The big issue is the mileage... but for 2000 bucks, I could probably rebuild the motor with better components. Also the clip has alot of cool little things that come with it (those headlights might fit on a max with a little work...)

Well, what do you guys think???

-new

stephenlc

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I think thr RWD tranny will be better. I have no idea how you were going to do the AWD. Would you have been the first with an AWD 240? You can always do a 5 lug convertion on your 240 add the brakes and some fat wheels. I am sure with that extra 2000 you could do some internals. And get a bigger turbo. Maybe 2.8 strocker kit! Are you going to sell the lights since you don't have the Maxi Pad anymore? You can probally get $500 dollars or even more for the GTR headlights.

Mishap

If you have the money go w/ the newer engine if the mileage is correct. There's just too much that can happen to a turbo motor that is at least 10 years old and of questionable condition. The newer motor can pretty much be bolted up and run at lower boost levels. Also, will the stock turbos even fit in a LHD car? I was under the impression that RB stock turbo setups prevented LHD installation which would make the R34 BB turbos pointless for your application. I also thought you were planning on using that single Garrett BB 60-1 that you originally got for the Max. If you decide to build the motor, the older one should be fine as long as it's in decent shape. The front clip looks pretty beat though but looks can be deceiving so long as that motor still has good compression.

A question though, are those GT spec RWD trannies? I thought all RB26DETT's came w/ AWD trannies w/ later ones being 6spd. If so won't the RB26 need modifications to remove the front drive components?

I ask of one thing as well...please put an intercooler like this on there. Greddy 4 Row intercooler.

desertmaxima

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Get the R32 clip cause im pretty sure there are some things you will need off the Clip for the swap out. If ya want, give the guys at mckinney motorsport a call. Mack and Gary are pretty good when it comes to swapping in RB engines into 240's they did an RB25 and some 26's into 240s already. I helped them do their first 240sx that was in SCC. But I would go with the entire clip though for that price. Hey what are you gonna do with the 60-1 you got also. And hey hows my motor doing lol. Ill be home to SD in April for sure so as soon as I get back ill make the arrnagements to have it sent out. And remember, we want to see pics of this 240 project

on_alert

well, I have the money for either, but I dont want to waste money if I dont need to. They are not gt-r trannies in the RWD configuration, they are GTS-t trannies that come stock on rb25det motors. They should hold serious power. As far as LHD, lets just say, that my car isnt going to be LHD... so I am going to put the twins in and make sure everything is AOK, then see aout putting that 60-1 in. I could probably sell a bunch of stuff off that clip though and get some of my money back, but I definitely wont be building the motor this winter, I would drive it for the summer with 60K...

Damnit, I just dont know what to do about it...

EDIT: Oh, and Desert, your motor is wrapped in plastic in my basement.

ejj

iTrader: (5)

That sucks dude. You didn't get boned out of any money, did you?

I'd go for the R32 clip. Sounds like a better value (getting more). Like you said...if you threw 2k into that motor, it would be far better than the R34 one.

If the skyline lights fit a maxima, I want them.

on_alert

i posted over on skylinesdownunder.com...

I was told this:
"If it was me, I would be going for the R34 engine.
The R32 GT-R crank has a manufacture fault at the oil pump drive, It has only 5mm of drive going into the oil pump. This can (and usually does) cause the pump gears to crack resulting in loss of oil presure/thrown bottom end bearings.
I would think rebuilding the 32 engine would be a lot more than 2000usd, I spent $8000nzd with better parts (JE pistons, oil pump collar, Nismo oil pump,tomei sump)
The R34 has better cams, better turbos, and will last longer.

Chris."

Man, I thought I was sure I wanted the clip, now i dont know... Also, the clip doesnt come with any kind of waranty...

desertmaxima

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Ive read up on that board and those Aussies are pretty knowledgeable about skylines, so there would be yer answer. And it makes sense also. If ya look at all the 1000hp skylines are mostly R34's.

on_alert

Well, I went ahead and bought the R34 motorset. It was never even used in a car, just as a demo motor at a show, a testament to MAd NisSAn PoWa Y0! haha

Anyway, I should have it before the end of next week!

ABK

Why are you going for twin turbo set up? Isn't it harder to put in 240? And yeah go with RWD since it would be major pain the *** to put in AWD if it possible. 240sx with a skyline motor!!! KICK A$$

luckee2bhere

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Got some questions:
front clip is what....?
LHD is what?
GTS-t is what?

BTW this Skyline engine idea in a 240 really intrigues me. I think its awesome.

anybody got links to people that have finished the project already?

pawnstar12

front clip is when they cut the front of the car from the dash and sometimes infront of the dash up and sell it.

LHD = left hand drive

a GTS-t is the single turbo rear wheel drive RB20det version of the skyline

luckee2bhere

iTrader: (1)

ahhh i see now...now that you say it i have seen both of the first terms before...thanks for reminding me.



is that like first gen skyline?

pawnstar12

no just a stripped down affordalbe version

mtcookson

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1st generation Skyline was made way back in the late 50's... Were you thinking of the R32 Skyline? The R32 is the 8th generation of Skylines

luckee2bhere

iTrader: (1)

how much $?

whats a good skyline site to learn about US applications with the different engines?

pawnstar12

my boy is stationed over there in yokuska and he bought his R32 GTS-T automatic, for $500 off a guy coming back state side. cars are cheap over there because of the registration taxes but american dont have to pay those taxes. i just read alot in magazines about them and i visited yokuska on deployment during the summer a skylines are like mustangs over here. everyone has one but you rarely see cobras (GTR's) at least during the day. a new R34 gtr runs about 55,000 USD MOTOREX charges $98,000. and then $25,000 for the shipping and customs paper work and conversion, oh yeah did i mention that they are the only place in the united states that you can get insurance for them. MOTOREX.NET make their money. im trying to get my friend to bring back a skyline for me when his duty in japan is up. because the navy pays for the shipping of the vehicle all i have to do is figure out how to solve the conversion and customs fees with out paying $25,000 i have time though about 2 years.
sorry i stole the thread

ABK

Yeah true. You can get cars for dirt cheap. batfa.com my friend wants to get a sylivia for $3000 and just swap the parts on his 240

ABK

Don't R34s come with AWD? I have on idea how you are going to make a 240 an AWD. Good luck

subs1000w

one of the engines hes looking at has the engine out of the R34 but a Rwd tranny out of the GTS-T is comes with it

stephenlc

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I was reading about GTR's at Freshalloy.com They said that they banned the R32 because it was to violent. They are starting to get like 800 hp from that engine and about 2 years ago all they could get was 500 hp. With the smaller body and weight of the R32 they said it is much better than the fat R34. But the engine is going into a 240 so even better. Look in there GTR forum, there is someone building a S15 drag car here in the USA with a R34 motor. He is planning to run low 8's.