Oil pan taping PLEASE HELP!!!
11-20-2011, 10:02 PM
#1
Oil pan taping PLEASE HELP!!!
A little background info... Its my first time turbo'ing a Maxima. Only been part of a turbo Honda build and as we all may know it is by far different. Im need to tap my oil pan for my oil return line from the turbo. Looking at the engine oil pan of the Maxima, I noticed it is very small and it doesn't like the oil will drain from the return line but get clogged with the oil already on the oil pan. Can anyone who has turbo'ed their Maxima let me know how and where they taped their oil pan. Pictures would be great! Any suggestions would help.
11-20-2011, 11:22 PM
#3
More info about this upper oil pan? Where is it located? Have you personally taped this upper oil pan? If so did you JB welded it? More info would be greatly appreciated.
Last edited by VQtHuRtY; 11-20-2011 at 11:24 PM.
11-20-2011, 11:39 PM
#4
A little search goes a long way... Found a write up. Seems like hell of a job to remove that sucker. Thanks bro. Any other suggestions? Anyone wants to chime in with how the taped theirs?
Last edited by VQtHuRtY; 11-21-2011 at 07:50 AM.
11-21-2011, 05:37 AM
#5
I know one person that used a oil pan spacer for a 350z but this could be a problem if your slammed. I know about 7 other boosted maxima's including myself and all tapped the lower pan and used a 45 or 90 degree -10an fitting
tapping the upper would be the best option thou
tapping the upper would be the best option thou
11-21-2011, 07:53 AM
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11-21-2011, 08:05 AM
#10
That's how I had it planned, but I was thinking, where you're going to be returning the oil to is already full of oil. I wouldnt think it'll pump in, but get backed up on the return line. Someone else might be of more help.
Last edited by VQtHuRtY; 11-21-2011 at 08:12 AM.
11-21-2011, 08:49 AM
#11
Yea I know I thought about this as well and I'm thinking maybe the need to run a scavenge pump. That sounds easier then messing with the upper oil pan unless what shift_max says is easier but then you're still fighting gravity. I think a scavenge pump is the best idea thus far, I rather invest the extra money and not have to worry about it.
11-21-2011, 09:01 AM
#12
Yea I know I thought about this as well and I'm thinking maybe the need to run a scavenge pump. That sounds easier then messing with the upper oil pan unless what shift_max says is easier but then you're still fighting gravity. I think a scavenge pump is the best idea thus far, I rather invest the extra money and not have to worry about it.
11-21-2011, 09:09 AM
#13
I may just have no bumper in the end.scavengepump.com got a good one and its not as expensive as the others.
11-21-2011, 09:23 AM
#15
The only guys I've seen that had problems was the RMT guys since the turbo was so low. So far I haven't heard of anyone having problems with the turbo mounted just as kzoosho's pic and that's where mine is being mounted, so I may or may not run a scavenge pump. vqhurty has the turbo specialties kit iirc so his turbo is mounted differently.
11-21-2011, 09:31 AM
#17
haha thats what I've been thinking gathering all these parts for my turbo build, but what did you expect going aftermarket turbo cluttered engine bay and a bunch of electronics. I'm auto to add on top of that so we'll see how I'm going to manage to fit a fmic, oil cooler, and trans cooler I may just have no bumper in the end.
scavengepump.com got a good one and its not as expensive as the others.
I may just have no bumper in the end.scavengepump.com got a good one and its not as expensive as the others.
11-21-2011, 09:35 AM
#18
How many quarts of oil were you running? I plan to run 5 instead of the 4.xx in order to accommodate for the turbo.
The only guys I've seen that had problems was the RMT guys since the turbo was so low. So far I haven't heard of anyone having problems with the turbo mounted just as kzoosho's pic and that's where mine is being mounted, so I may or may not run a scavenge pump. vqhurty has the turbo specialties kit iirc so his turbo is mounted differently.
The only guys I've seen that had problems was the RMT guys since the turbo was so low. So far I haven't heard of anyone having problems with the turbo mounted just as kzoosho's pic and that's where mine is being mounted, so I may or may not run a scavenge pump. vqhurty has the turbo specialties kit iirc so his turbo is mounted differently.
Yeah, my turbo sits in the front exhaust manifold. Much lower than the picture above from kzoosho's setup. Might be a little bit too low to just run it to the lower oil pan.
Last edited by VQtHuRtY; 11-21-2011 at 09:42 AM.
11-21-2011, 09:44 AM
#19
Btw theres isn't clearance issues with the radiator/fans with this turbo setup?
11-21-2011, 10:28 AM
#20
11-21-2011, 11:54 AM
#23
Remove the lower pan, drill then tap upper pan for fittings in a place where you can easily run the lines to and where you can easily see inside the pan what you're doing so you don't end up drilling in to your crank counterweights or anything stupid like that.
Also, you fill the oil until it is at the proper level with all your ancillaries attached and filled and record how much you had to put in. You don't predetermine what amount you "plan" to put in. That is asking for trouble.
Also, you fill the oil until it is at the proper level with all your ancillaries attached and filled and record how much you had to put in. You don't predetermine what amount you "plan" to put in. That is asking for trouble.
11-21-2011, 02:27 PM
#24
Nealoc187 is correct. He basically stated what I had said a couple of posts above. It is simpler to remove the lower pan and look inside to see where to tap the upper oil pan so you don't hit anything else. Plus that is alot simpler and less of a headache then to use a scavenger pump.
The upper oil pan is aluminium and is easy to drill and tap. Plus an fittings are not that expensive and make the job alot easier.
The upper oil pan is aluminium and is easy to drill and tap. Plus an fittings are not that expensive and make the job alot easier.
11-21-2011, 02:51 PM
#25
Remove the lower pan, drill then tap upper pan for fittings in a place where you can easily run the lines to and where you can easily see inside the pan what you're doing so you don't end up drilling in to your crank counterweights or anything stupid like that.
Also, you fill the oil until it is at the proper level with all your ancillaries attached and filled and record how much you had to put in. You don't predetermine what amount you "plan" to put in. That is asking for trouble.
Also, you fill the oil until it is at the proper level with all your ancillaries attached and filled and record how much you had to put in. You don't predetermine what amount you "plan" to put in. That is asking for trouble.
Nealoc187 is correct. He basically stated what I had said a couple of posts above. It is simpler to remove the lower pan and look inside to see where to tap the upper oil pan so you don't hit anything else. Plus that is alot simpler and less of a headache then to use a scavenger pump.
The upper oil pan is aluminium and is easy to drill and tap. Plus an fittings are not that expensive and make the job alot easier.
The upper oil pan is aluminium and is easy to drill and tap. Plus an fittings are not that expensive and make the job alot easier.
11-21-2011, 06:53 PM
#26
The only thing I really want to upgrade in the future is the intercooler, IC Piping and blow off valve. They could be a bit bigger for better gains.
Last edited by VQtHuRtY; 11-21-2011 at 07:01 PM.
11-21-2011, 08:48 PM
#27
Yeah, ill probably have to go with slim fans. Ive never seen a kit like mine done before. I went with the GT35 upgrade. Off the back Im going witb the 3" downpipe and exhaust. So i will be getting rid of the restrictive downpipe. Also, I didnt go with their fuel management system so fine dyno tuning will be achieved with an AEM FIC. The only car I saw with the turbo specialties turbo kit with the t28 put down around 265ish whp. Im expecting to put down atleast 300whp.
The only thing I really want to upgrade in the future is the intercooler, IC Piping and blow off valve. They could be a bit bigger for better gains.
The only thing I really want to upgrade in the future is the intercooler, IC Piping and blow off valve. They could be a bit bigger for better gains.
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11-22-2011, 10:28 AM
#29
When putting together my friend's boosted Maxima, we tapped the upper oil pan. There's a flat spot on the pan facing towards the front off the car that was perfect. The aluminum is soft so it went through like butter.
Even though people do have success returning the oil back to the lower pan, I would feel a little more safe with the upper.
Even though people do have success returning the oil back to the lower pan, I would feel a little more safe with the upper.
01-05-2012, 06:32 AM
#30
When putting together my friend's boosted Maxima, we tapped the upper oil pan. There's a flat spot on the pan facing towards the front off the car that was perfect. The aluminum is soft so it went through like butter.
Even though people do have success returning the oil back to the lower pan, I would feel a little more safe with the upper.
Even though people do have success returning the oil back to the lower pan, I would feel a little more safe with the upper.
Thats what I did. Dang Nanny filter at work wont let my on my photobucket account, I'll post up a pic later.
01-05-2012, 08:04 AM
#31
When putting together my friend's boosted Maxima, we tapped the upper oil pan. There's a flat spot on the pan facing towards the front off the car that was perfect. The aluminum is soft so it went through like butter.
Even though people do have success returning the oil back to the lower pan, I would feel a little more safe with the upper.
Even though people do have success returning the oil back to the lower pan, I would feel a little more safe with the upper.
Keep in mind that you wont have to rely on gravity alone. Along as the turbo is above the cold oil level, there will be no problem with back up. Plus the turbo has between 14 and 60 PSI of pressure on the high pressure side of the turbo. It doesnt completely go away when it goes through the turbo. That pressure will continue to push it throught the oil pan.
Thats what I did. Dang Nanny filter at work wont let my on my photobucket account, I'll post up a pic later.
Thats what I did. Dang Nanny filter at work wont let my on my photobucket account, I'll post up a pic later.
01-05-2012, 09:19 AM
#33
A few ATs have held up pretty well on SC'd and TC'd maximas, so I have faith
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