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DandyMax May 11, 2008 10:27 AM

*VIDEO* New PB's and last time for the cammed DEK??
 
EDIT: Full-size video added (720x480). Download it here.


So I got out to the track yesterday, managed to get 7 runs in and set some new PB's across the board on pretty much every 1/4 mile stat. I had a few issues during the day with traction and even some clutch slip now (uh oh) so I wasn't uber consistent but not too bad.

Anways, the new best sixty foot is a 1.73, and best ET and trap is now 12.61@108.98. My runs went as follows:

Run . . . 60 ft . . . 1/8 ET . . . 1/8 mph . . . .1/4 ET . . . .1/4 mph
#1 . . . 1.8020 . . .8.2049 . . . .85.40 . . . . 12.7579 . . . 108.17
#2 . . . 1.7501 . . .8.0960 . . . .86.50 . . . . 12.6130 . . . 108.98 <---- bold = new PB's
#3 . . . 1.7611 . . .8.1882 . . . .85.68 . . . . 12.7510 . . . 107.95
#4 . . . 1.7608 . . .8.1177 . . . .86.20 . . . . 12.6489 . . . 108.16

45 min lunch break

#5 . . . 1.8401 . . .8.1332 . . . .85.71 . . . . 12.6820 . . . 108.46
#6 . . . 1.7738 . . .8.1527 . . . .86.03 . . . . 12.7218 . . . 107.09
#7 . . . 1.7372 . . .8.2161 . . . .84.94 . . . . 12.8351 . . . 106.39 <---- bold = new PB

I was really disappointed in #5, since that was the run after the longest cool down break of the day, and I got stuck in the lane I don't like (the left), that always sucks and gives traction problems off the line. As you can see the car ran pretty strongly that run once it got going, so with a 1.75 sixty foot or so that pass would have been a high 12.5... :(

Runs #6 and #7 I had issues with some clutch slip, unfortunately. Not severe but you could smell it afterwards and my ET and mph dropped quite a bit on those 2 runs, although I did manage to somehow hit the 1.73 by playing with tire pressure. So #7 was a bummer too, because a good launch like that should have gotten me a high 12.5. :(

Here's the timeslip for run #2, and as always I have video but don't have it edited together yet, so that will be added in the near future. All in all, I'm happy with the results but being only 2 hundredths away on the ET and trap from a 12.5x and 109.xx was a little disappointing, and I do feel the car is capable of it, although I would say that's just about the limit, unless I can somehow drop half a tenth further on the sixty foot.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/18612205882.jpg

knight_yyz May 11, 2008 10:33 AM

:bowdown1:

ajcool2 May 11, 2008 10:38 AM

:king2:

Congrats again Dandy. Now its time for some 11 second N/A times!

98MaXeDouT May 11, 2008 10:53 AM

I give up...lol.

Amazing man..

icedout May 11, 2008 11:38 AM

congratz man any vids from the track?

DandyMax May 11, 2008 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by icedout (Post 6402426)
congratz man any vids from the track?


Originally Posted by DandyMax
Here's the timeslip for run #2, and as always I have video but don't have it edited together yet, so that will be added in the near future.

^^^ ;)

icedout May 11, 2008 12:24 PM

cool

96sleeper May 11, 2008 12:30 PM

Your times are where I was running with the 3.5 swap and cams. Can't wait to see what you can get out of it when you swap it in. The max power probably won't be much higher but you will have 50 lb-ft more torque and a flatter powerband to work with.

DandyMax May 11, 2008 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by 96sleeper (Post 6402489)
...but you will have 50 lb-ft more torque and a flatter powerband to work with.

Yes IMO that is exactly the reason why this 3L setup has not been able to match the current 3.5L N/A record, which is Jim's 12.48 (IIRC), because it's lacking the extra torque, even if peak power is similar. (I'm just mentioning this for anyone who might say that you should be able to run the same with the same power, well not necessarily because the area under the curve is different). The 3L torque curve is nice and flat, but it's a lot lower number, as you said. So therefore, it gets to 270 whp, but not till 7500 rpm. My average power from 5000 to 7500 is only ~235 or so.

The 3.5 setup is going to be boosted, so it won't be optimized for N/A use, even though it will remain N/A for the remainder of this year. Therefore whatever numbers/times I get out of it won't reflect the full potential of an N/A 3.5, that's not the goal of the build.

khantalha+ May 11, 2008 01:10 PM

:king:<-------:bowdown1:

Tatanko May 11, 2008 01:16 PM

You just ran a 12.6 @ nearly 109 MPH on an NA 3.0L and you're going to a boosted 3.5L. Wow. God help the rest of the automotive community when they finally see what a Maxima is capable of with a good driver!

DandyMax May 11, 2008 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Tatanko (Post 6402545)
You just ran a 12.6 @ nearly 109 MPH on an NA 3.0L and you're going to a boosted 3.5L. Wow. God help the rest of the automotive community when they finally see what a Maxima is capable of with a good driver!

Very kind of you to say that, however the faster you go the harder it gets to go faster, it's not a linear relationship. It's a lot easier to go from 14's to 12's, than to go from 12's to 11's or 10's...

There are several guys like Neal, sleeper, Mardi, Jime etc who are good drivers and knowledgeable enthusiasts so if it took a lot of work for them to run what they have I'm sure it won't be easy for me either. So hats off to them, they deserve a lot credit for blazing the trail also! Guys like SR20DEN and tilley too...

As for me, all I will say at this point is that I'll try to do the best I can with the resources (or lack thereof lol) that I have to work with, and however it turns out, the important thing is that I'm still enjoying the car, even though it's almost 10 years old now (wow it doesn't seem that old somehow...)

Grand_hustle17 May 11, 2008 03:07 PM

wow dude that crazy man.......... congrats im just hoping for low 14's with my auto DEK and thats hard as is, but you on the other hand make 12 sec seems like its a simple task, lol excellent work, you need to come down MD and participate in our imports vs domestics, these fools dont beleive me when i tell em dont sleep on us
video links ASAP

accordingtou May 11, 2008 04:36 PM

:eek:


My hats off......


:eek:

Tatanko May 11, 2008 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by DandyMax (Post 6402559)
Very kind of you to say that, however the faster you go the harder it gets to go faster, it's not a linear relationship. It's a lot easier to go from 14's to 12's, than to go from 12's to 11's or even 10's... :shy:

There are several guys like Neal, sleeper, Mardi, Jim etc who are good drivers and knowledgeable enthusiasts so if it took a lot of work for them to run what they have I'm sure it won't be easy for me either. So hats off to them, they deserve a lot credit for blazing the trail also! Guys like SR20DEN and tilley too...

As for me, all I will say at this point is that I'll try to do the best I can with the resources (or lack thereof lol) that I have to work with, and however it turns out, the important thing is that I'm still enjoying the car, even though it's almost 10 years old now (wow it doesn't seem that old somehow...)

Oh I know it's no easy task. I just have great faith in you because of how far you have come so far. You've already done what was once thought to be impossible. That's all I'm going to say ;)

t6378tp May 11, 2008 05:58 PM

there is nothing else to really say another than please give it 1 more shot

QNO_A32 May 11, 2008 07:16 PM

awesome driving cant wait for vids!!!!!!! +1 sick times...:eek::bowdown::bowdown:

makin teh FI guys look reaaaaaaaaal bad lol

Nealoc187 May 11, 2008 07:19 PM

:ben:

Scottwax May 11, 2008 09:17 PM

That's really humping it. :)

TDotMax May 12, 2008 05:28 AM

Congrats on the nice runs!!!!! Are you sure I have to wait until July/August or could this been done next week lol.

Grand_hustle17 May 12, 2008 05:33 AM

post video links as soon as you upload lol

grey99max May 12, 2008 07:03 AM

Dandy, you are a mad engine builder !! Props on this engine, and heaven help us all when your 3.5 hits the street - er, track :D

Fantastic work.

Grand_hustle17 May 12, 2008 03:02 PM

still no one beleives me, even when they saw the old video...... congrats again

Juiced SE-R May 13, 2008 11:27 AM

Mad props man!! Congrats on all the success!

VQrebuild96 May 13, 2008 01:20 PM

If your going to swap for a 3.5 at least spray the dek.. i think it would break into 11's with a 100 shot.

t6378tp May 13, 2008 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by VQrebuild96 (Post 6406214)
If your going to swap for a 3.5 at least spray the dek.. i think it would break into 11's with a 100 shot.

he is selling the motor

DandyMax May 13, 2008 01:47 PM

^^ Yup. Plus I have no desire to ever use nitrous, it's not my style.

On another note, I found out a friend of mine is going to the track on Saturday (May 17) so I may end up going out for one more crack at it, but that will almost certainly be the final time.

97SMG May 13, 2008 03:02 PM

:doublethu Amazing what you are putting down. Time to invest time and $$ on EU.... What are you estimating to put down with the next setup?

ajcool2 May 13, 2008 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 97SMG (Post 6406382)
:doublethu Amazing what you are putting down. Time to invest time and $$ on EU.... What are you estimating to put down with the next setup?

:confused:

VQrebuild96 May 13, 2008 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by 97SMG (Post 6406382)
:doublethu Amazing what you are putting down. Time to invest time and $$ on EU.... What are you estimating to put down with the next setup?

He already has an eu....

VQrebuild96 May 13, 2008 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by DandyMax (Post 6406270)
^^ Yup. Plus I have no desire to ever use nitrous, it's not my style.

On another note, I found out a friend of mine is going to the track on Saturday (May 17) so I may end up going out for one more crack at it, but that will almost certainly be the final time.

Gut the car next time if it is not already.

DandyMax May 13, 2008 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by VQrebuild96 (Post 6406527)
Gut the car next time if it is not already.

It's not gutted, but I can't be bothered to do that at this point, not worth the effort for the few hundredths it'll save me. I take the passenger seat out and my driver's seat is a racing seat, other than that most of the interior is in place when I race... carpet, rear seats, all trim panels, glove box, console etc - most of it's all there.

Grand_hustle17 May 13, 2008 05:41 PM

no videos yet... c'mon, i cant wait to see the look on co-workers face :D

DandyMax May 13, 2008 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17 (Post 6406602)
no videos yet... c'mon, i cant wait to see the look on co-workers face :D

I know, sorry... I've had no time at all to work on it, keep checking, I'm trying to get something up as soon as I can... I may have some time tonight to start on it.

Grand_hustle17 May 13, 2008 06:03 PM

^^^ please do

t6378tp May 13, 2008 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by DandyMax (Post 6406566)
It's not gutted, but I can't be bothered to do that at this point, not worth the effort for the few hundredths it'll save me. I take the passenger seat out and my driver's seat is a racing seat, other than that most of the interior is in place when I race... carpet, rear seats, all trim panels, glove box, console etc - most of it's all there.

just do the easy stuff: spare, jack, floor mats, rear and passanger seats thats good for a quick 100 or so lbs

DandyMax May 13, 2008 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by t6378tp (Post 6406789)
just do the easy stuff: spare, jack, floor mats, rear and passanger seats thats good for a quick 100 or so lbs

I should have mentioned that the trunk is empty and no floor mats. That's a given, but the rear seat isn't worth bothering to me at this point. It's pretty light.

maxboy325 May 14, 2008 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by ajcool2 (Post 6406412)
:confused:


Originally Posted by VQrebuild96 (Post 6406526)
He already has an eu....

I think he ment for himself for the EU :)

97SMG May 14, 2008 06:56 AM

I am fully aware that he is running EU, I meant for myself.... If used properly as dandy is currently using it, huge gains are to be had.

DandyMax May 14, 2008 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17 (Post 6406602)
no videos yet... c'mon, i cant wait to see the look on co-workers face :D

Got the video edited together last night, just have to render it out in the right format and get it hosted. Hopefully later this evening it'll be available...

Wonder where's Luke at? Haven't seen him post... :wall:


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