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markmaxima Dec 21, 2004 03:47 AM

car won't start
 
yesterday in new york it was frezzing outside, so i go to remote start the car, it begins to start up then cuts off, i did that twice, then after that all i hear is the starter turning, i went to get a boost won't start, as i am turning the key it just turns and i hear a hmmm noise, the starter is onlt six months old, any advice could it be bad relay, also i got a alternator put in a couple of days before, and the car was running good before that frezzing, and help will do thanks

rrrfoma Dec 21, 2004 04:00 AM

1. can you hear gas pump "starting" when key turned on?
2. water might be in gas lines (add "antifreeze" in future - not real antifreeze of course :))
3. check if you get a spark (if not - open rotor cap and spray with "ignition dry & go")
4. and finally if ur maxima has manual tranny - try "push" start (sorry, doesn't apply to you - I c u've got an GXE)

Wiking Dec 21, 2004 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by markmaxima
as i am turning the key it just turns and i hear a hmmm noise

hmmm: Engine not cranking? Starter broken or not gettin enough juice. Check batt. wires , still ? hmmm---> repair/replace starter...

internetautomar Dec 21, 2004 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by markmaxima
yesterday in new york it was frezzing outside, so i go to remote start the car, it begins to start up then cuts off, i did that twice, then after that all i hear is the starter turning, i went to get a boost won't start, as i am turning the key it just turns and i hear a hmmm noise, the starter is onlt six months old, any advice could it be bad relay, also i got a alternator put in a couple of days before, and the car was running good before that frezzing, and help will do thanks

the "hmmmm" noise is probably your fuel pump functioning.
it could be lots of things that are wrong. it's not too terribly unusual for a rebuilt starter to fail after 6 months depending upon the quality of the rebuild.
you may want to check the battery connections as well as the alternator connections, it's possible you have a bad ground.

alpicone Dec 21, 2004 05:19 AM

When you replaced the alternator did you replace the battery also? Make sure the battery is good.

Also did you get a new alternator or rebuilt? If you got a rebuilt it could be that it isnt good. Test the charging system.

Also can you describe the hmmmm sound a bit more. Does is crank but not start or not crank at all? Is the hmmmm sound the fuel pump? (coming from the back)

Vadim-93GXE Dec 21, 2004 05:20 AM

It's freezing here in brooklyn, eh? You shoulda seen how it was at night. I took my Max for a spin in the middle of the night and I felt like I had a sports suspension. It was so stiff cause it was frozen.

Anyway, did you get a brand new alternator or rebuild?

aziphrale Dec 21, 2004 06:47 AM

well the same kind of thing happened to me this morning, I too live in new york. im in brooklyn. I too got the same exact sound but my engine turned over, the hmmm is the fuel pump. i turned it like 4-5 times and gave a little gas and it turned over. I have a question though could this be from the radiator freezing? It takes forever for my car to heat up. This could also be because i dont have the correct engine shroud/fan on the car. I have a dual fan shroud on that is wired to come on as the engine turns on. I have to get the correct shroud or connector maybe? CAn anyone help me with this? I think this is also why my heat takes a long time to come on. Almost 1hr 1/2 before it gets hot. Sorry for thread Stealing. :sadpace:

DanNY Dec 21, 2004 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by markmaxima
yesterday in new york it was frezzing outside, so i go to remote start the car, it begins to start up then cuts off, i did that twice, then after that all i hear is the starter turning, i went to get a boost won't start, as i am turning the key it just turns and i hear a hmmm noise, the starter is onlt six months old, any advice could it be bad relay, also i got a alternator put in a couple of days before, and the car was running good before that frezzing, and help will do thanks

your starter is dead...replace it.

the hmmm is the fuel pump.

battery is good because it turns the starter..and even if you jumped it..it still didn't start.

DanNY Dec 21, 2004 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by aziphrale
well the same kind of thing happened to me this morning, I too live in new york. im in brooklyn. I too got the same exact sound but my engine turned over, the hmmm is the fuel pump. i turned it like 4-5 times and gave a little gas and it turned over. I have a question though could this be from the radiator freezing? It takes forever for my car to heat up. This could also be because i dont have the correct engine shroud/fan on the car. I have a dual fan shroud on that is wired to come on as the engine turns on. I have to get the correct shroud or connector maybe? CAn anyone help me with this? I think this is also why my heat takes a long time to come on. Almost 1hr 1/2 before it gets hot. Sorry for thread Stealing. :sadpace:

you answered your own question..TURN THE FANS OFF!!! :tardsmash

aziphrale Dec 21, 2004 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by DanNY
your starter is dead...replace it.

the hmmm is the fuel pump.

battery is good because it turns the starter..and even if you jumped it..it still didn't start.

Does this apply to me as well? This is the first time i have had this problem. And it turned over for me. Will this happen to me as well? I got a rebuilt starter and alternator during the summer. I havent had a starting problem since. This is my first experience. I thought that the car was just cold.

yelowd Dec 21, 2004 07:17 AM

Get block heaters. Here in MN it'll double digit neg and mine will start just fine. Only because of the block heater.

aziphrale Dec 21, 2004 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by DanNY
you answered your own question..TURN THE FANS OFF!!! :tardsmash

Yea i know that already. Im in the process of getting a new shroud and harness. But i have a question is there a way to wire the fan into the old wiring so it turns on only when needed. theres nothing wrong with the fan i have now its just on all the time. This is because the harness that is for the stock fan cannot go on the fan that i have. The fan i have also goes at 2 speeds. I just need to wire it correctly. i dont know which wire is the fast wire and which wire is the reg wire. If anyone knows it will be greatly appreciated. thanks.

internetautomar Dec 21, 2004 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by aziphrale
Yea i know that already. Im in the process of getting a new shroud and harness. But i have a question is there a way to wire the fan into the old wiring so it turns on only when needed. theres nothing wrong with the fan i have now its just on all the time. This is because the harness that is for the stock fan cannot go on the fan that i have. The fan i have also goes at 2 speeds. I just need to wire it correctly. i dont know which wire is the fast wire and which wire is the reg wire. If anyone knows it will be greatly appreciated. thanks.

:wall: I sell the shroud assemblies

Wiking Dec 21, 2004 08:35 AM

Maxima Is A Hot Car!
 

Originally Posted by aziphrale
the hmmm is the fuel pump.

It takes forever for my car to heat up.


hmmm hmmm hmmmmmm... depends on hmmm...

The engine always pumps cooling fluid in 'small loop'. What then happens in the bigger loop do not matter one bit (rad, fans etc). Of course no leaks...

The 'small' loop is engine heads, throttle assy, cabin heater. This loop continues to be closed as long as the thermostat stays closed.

As engine becomes hot, thermostat opens, engine cooling fluid starts the 'bigger loop'. The fans come in pic -if- the temp trigs their temp switch. However, thermostat is the king...

MAXIMA IS A HOT CAR!
...even in -30. So there's smtg wrong with u hot car, see below the discussions:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=361759
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=362106
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=363118
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=360258

markmaxima Dec 22, 2004 07:16 AM

car won't start
 
thanks guys for your help, it was the starter, i guess it wasn't built very well, because it worked fine all summer, and the first day it got cold it died. as for the other guy with the starter rebuild jusy save money just in case your starter goes.

nelledge Dec 22, 2004 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by markmaxima
thanks guys for your help, it was the starter, i guess it wasn't built very well, because it worked fine all summer, and the first day it got cold it died. as for the other guy with the starter rebuild jusy save money just in case your starter goes.

Or better yet, buy a starter that has a warranty. 1 year. 3 years. Lifetime. If you aren't buying new, might as well buy smart. :doublethu

Wiking Dec 22, 2004 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by markmaxima
it was the starter,

...hmmmm. who said hmmm... ??

internetautomar Dec 22, 2004 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by nelledge
Or better yet, buy a starter that has a warranty. 1 year. 3 years. Lifetime. If you aren't buying new, might as well buy smart. :doublethu

Warranty means nothing, especially those lifetime warranties.
a 2 year warranty means more to me

nelledge Dec 22, 2004 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by internetautomar
Warranty means nothing, especially those lifetime warranties.
a 2 year warranty means more to me

Right, right, inter. But people are going to go cheap. If they are going to have the chance of it going south, why not exchange for a free one. I mean, you're already out the labor cost or time. Might as well have some insurance. I have sold all kinds of new and remanufactured electrical parts, a large percentage come back sooner or later. No matter what brand. That's why I said "warranty 1yr, 3yr, lifetime. Point is: Get some kind of warranty. He had his for two seasons and had to buy another. That sucks. :thumbsdow

grave_digger500 Jan 21, 2005 01:49 PM

did u try popping the clutch w--t


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