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what are these (HELP!) (pics)
i need to know what these are so i can wire this crap up!
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Picture225.jpg ARE THESE THE VTC'S?????? I ONLY SEE TWO OF THEM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture216.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture218.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture217.jpg |
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WHAT DOES THIS DO???
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture223.jpg this is the mess i have to wire up!!!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture230.jpg great ehh????? remember i have the VE motor.. help would be appreciated!! |
Them are teh VTC selonoids.....in the first picture....
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is there only two of them?? i only see two on the passenger side of motor
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oh god... brave man. Get er Dun!
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I'm pretty sure, one for each bank of cylinders. What are you doing with all those wires? Can't you just swap the entire harness and ECU from the VE also?
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the harness from the VE parts car runs to EVERYTHING in the car.... and at the moment we didnt have enough time to pull EVERYTHING so i am trying to do it this way.... god i hope it works! thanks for the props guys......i cant wait to drive the dam thing man! i am getting very anxious!
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so there are only two VTC's?????? because i only see two... unless they are below the air intake manifold.... all i gotta figure out is where these wire up to because the VG didnt have VTC's.... hmmm
one more question.... the relay box on the VE's......on the passenger side right near the ABS thing what does FICD mean??? |
I think their is one for each head. good luck man that a lot of wiring.. But you will be one of the first
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Yes there are only 2 VTC's
One for each head like previously stated The part you have in the picture is only the VTC solenoid.. You have to take off the timing chain covers to see the actual VTC's themselves Good job on the VE swap.. Once you get it all up and running you'll be thinking to yourself 'so this is what the Maxima.org guys have been sweating for years' ;) |
are you trying this without a FSM?...you are a brave person if so.
Serously you need to get one ASAP if you dont have one because it will answer these questions plus have wiring diagrams. |
i have a chilton's manuel... and the online FSM....there arent to many diagrams in there though.....i am doing it by eye basically........some of the colors are the same..but some arent.....has been going pretty smooth so far.... i am doing alot tomorrow (x-mas eve) since it will be like 50 degrees and not freezing... so i can feel my fingers......if it isnt wired up corectly could i fry the ECU????? now all i need is wiring diagrams like this for the VG motor .
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pinvoltage.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../pinlayout.jpg |
wowwwwww lot of wires there good luck
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Originally Posted by vansskaterfreek
so there are only two VTC's?????? because i only see two... unless they are below the air intake manifold.... all i gotta figure out is where these wire up to because the VG didnt have VTC's.... hmmm
one more question.... the relay box on the VE's......on the passenger side right near the ABS thing what does FICD mean??? You are going to NEVER get this done if you dont have, or go get a wiring diagram. That and a FSM would do you wonders. Don't get me wrong, you have a ton more guts than I attempting this, but if I did I would get the referance material BEFORE I ripped into stuff. |
What are you hooking up? looks like a PITA to me. lol
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dang man, good to see you got some pics up but wow... maybe you should have just grabbed a vg tranny;) good luck bro..
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
What are you hooking up? looks like a PITA to me. lol
Originally Posted by Hectic
dang man, good to see you got some pics up but wow... maybe you should have just grabbed a vg tranny;) good luck bro..
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Originally Posted by vansskaterfreek
well the story is that my VG tranny broke (160 HP motor's tranny)...so i am currently putting in the VE motor/tranny (190 HP motor)....most of the wiring is different...but if it doesnt work... i will be parting out my car...but i will be keeping the current interior (all custom made black).....hopefully it works, but if it doesnt i will be looking for a Black VE 5 speed! so i cam put the all black interior in it!
ahh... i see. Very cool. good luck with that! do you have any exp. doign this type of work? did you need to buy a new ecu and what not? how are you getting around... this looks like it will take a while to do. |
well i am only 17 and i have NO experience with motors or anything........my parents drive me around :007: ...not too thrilled about that....the junk yard is only a mile from my house so its not bad.....didnt have an engine lift so i had to use a chain hoist (hung it from the tree).....i just pulled the ECU out of the junk car (it is a u-pull it junk yard).....they have pretty good prices out there...but dont have any cars newer than 96 and dont have anything that is worth $3,000 or more....but you get REALLY good deals there.. i got athe engine and tranny for $300, with 69k miles on it.. so not too bad i think... since i work ALOT the car has been off the road for about 4 months now!!!!!!!! (havent had a lot of time to finish it) but progress is going well....i am off today so i will be working on it until dark....hopefully it runs very well...i dont feel like parting it out...wish me luck!
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damn, I didnt even realize your age. good for you man, you have more balls then I do. but you may have to take a step back and ask yourself if it is worth it... you know? i know i couldn't go 4 months with out my car. but thats just me. :)
good luck on everything, keep us updated... i am curious to see how it works out. |
Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
damn, I didnt even realize your age. good for you man, you have more balls then I do. but you may have to take a step back and ask yourself if it is worth it... you know? i know i couldn't go 4 months with out my car. but thats just me. :)
good luck on everything, keep us updated... i am curious to see how it works out. |
I agree with the 5-speed swap from the beginning. But then again my parents wouldn't let me swap in a 5-speed in the yard so I had no choice but to find a cheap beater for the moment.
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Seems your moving along so far. Im surprised you decided to do this without much experience. But you have to be sure that you want this to work, because if you hit a big enough bump, I really doubt you will finish, and it will all just have been a waste of time. You definatly get props from my corner. Still think you shoulda brought along the 5spd, cause after all this, you'll still be stuck with the auto, right?
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what on-line FSM are you using?
I've got a copy of the 94 FSM on-line that I can "lend" you |
i have the one that was published in 1993
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ok, as long as it's the nissan one. mine won't help any extra
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i would like ot thank all of you .orgers for h elping me out so far.. i greatly appreciate it!!!!!! i hope this swap works out well.. i cant wait to feel the power of the VE!!!!
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Everyone is making it seem more daunting than it is
You should have no problem pulling the whole wiring harness out and swapping it, then finding where it all goes just as long as you havent tried to cut and splice anything blindly (I cant really tell what you did though) |
well the day i was at the junk yard... i had to basically rip it out... so i had to cut it......that probably would have been the easiest thing to do.. but i would of had to take the whole dash apart and i just didnt have time that day.....so i am taking apart all of the old and new harnesses and basically combining them!!!!....so yeah i took the hard way......i wanted to buy the whole dam car but they wouldnt let me! so i was f-ed from day one!
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damn that is ball-z as hell, keep us informed on whats happening
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um you know that the main ecu harness could have just been unpluged pulled throught the firewall and reinstalled in your car, you pretty much screwed yourself buy cutting up the harness now you got to reconect a TON of wires and that leaves room for a TON of error since some of the colors are kinda hard to distinguis
not to discourage you but it doesnt sound like your on the level of getting somthing like this to work or you would have already had it working i mean it easy to just swap an engine but your doing somthing that no one else has ever done. its definitly possible but if you dont know what a VTC soleniod looks like your proboly not going to be able to wire up extra relays to power all the extra stuff the VE has like for instance the coil packs hell this job would proboly give craig a headache and he probobly has all the wireing diagrams memorized |
i just bought a VE with a blown motor and i am currently installing the 69k motor in it as we speak!
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