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Jon94SE Jan 5, 2007 12:22 AM

Can't seem to figure this one out... need advice
 
Okay so I bought my Max in March 06'. The previous owner (505max) had hit a median/curb and shattered one of the wheels. From then on the car slowly started making a vibration noise somewhere up front. It's been getting worse and worse to the point where now it is very loud and the steering wheel shakes about a 1/4" to an 1/8" back and forth at lower speeds now. So far I've replaced the driver side wheel bearing, hub and CV axle. The noise sounds like its coming from the driver side front. I dont know what else to check. I've checked for play in all the steering components and there's none. Tie rods maybe? I'm about to give up and take it to a shop and have them do a diagnosis on it which is hard for me to do, I disagree with taking my car anywhere. Any ideas or advice? thanks. :gotme:

Cliff Clavin Jan 5, 2007 12:24 AM

just sell it and buy mine

Jon94SE Jan 5, 2007 12:26 AM

I wish, I dont have that kind of money though. And Im kind of attached to this car now unfortuantly

elusivemax93 Jan 5, 2007 12:38 AM

damaged driver side control arm prolly bro i remember in my maroon 93 se i hit the curb front end over the crub and bent both control arms bro might check into the control arms being damaged how does the wheel look does it look closer to the rear of the front tire well or what?

Greeny Jan 5, 2007 03:45 AM

The tire on that side may defective,the steering wheel shake/shimmy you speak of is consistant with what a bad/severely out of balance tire would do...

A bent control arm could be responsible for the damage to the the tire,but i dont think it is causing the actual "shimmy" itself...

slickblack94 Jan 5, 2007 05:58 AM

I just had this problem with my car. The wheel would rock back and forth
at low speeds and would smooth out the faster I went. I thought it was
out of balance tires or a broken belt. I was getting gas one day and thought
the tires needed some air.Each tire had about 20 psi of pressure,so I pumped
them up to about 38ish and the wobble went away. Hope it's just that simple for you,and if not I would check for out of balance or broken belts. gl

DanNY Jan 5, 2007 06:54 AM

balljoint/tierods ok?

Jon94SE Jan 5, 2007 05:31 PM

I know it has nothing to do with tires because I've swapped the wheels and tires recently and no change. Also it's not just a shimmy problem there a rubbing/scraping/banging kind of sound with each revolution of the wheel and the steering wheel moves which each sound. I'm not sure how to check the tie rods and ball joints, I know there's no play when I move the tires back and forth and the ball joint isn't flimsy or sloppy it actually seems pretty decent.

Greeny Jan 5, 2007 05:44 PM

You could jack up the front end/start it up,put it in gear/watch the front wheel movement,a good flashlight helps..



















BTW,i claim no responsibility if the car falls on your head..

Jon94SE Jan 5, 2007 08:13 PM

Yeah I did try this also but I wasn't really watching the wheels I was trying to pinpoint the sound, maybe I'll try again and see what the wheels are doing.

dafiremaster Jan 6, 2007 07:05 PM

Number one rule after an accident!!!! Before you buy parts MEASURE THE GD FRAME TO MAKE SURE IT ISNT BENT!!!

writes1 Jan 7, 2007 03:40 PM

I did the same thing in my old Acura, and the control arm was bent. I constantly heard a grinding noise in my car. I know it's not a Maxima, but I thought this info might help.

Quick question on my Maxima. Rear Defrost doesn't work. Light switch on dash works, fuses are fine. Ideas?

Also, I never get a straight answer on how many quarts of oil actually go into my car. 3 or 4? I have a 3.0 sohc v6. I assume it's 3 because I have a 3.0 liter. help!

One last thing: How important is it to warm-up my maxima in the morning? Rule of thumb for me is about 2 or 3 minutes.

Greeny Jan 7, 2007 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by writes1
Quick question on my Maxima. Rear Defrost doesn't work. Light switch on dash works, fuses are fine. Ideas?

The wires that go across the glass probably have a few breaks in them..




Originally Posted by writes1
Also, I never get a straight answer on how many quarts of oil actually go into my car. 3 or 4? I have a 3.0 sohc v6. I assume it's 3 because I have a 3.0 liter. help!

http://i10.tinypic.com/33ae73l.jpg


Originally Posted by writes1
One last thing: How important is it to warm-up my maxima in the morning? Rule of thumb for me is about 2 or 3 minutes.

Not very important,as long as don't drive it like a bat out of hell until it has warmed up a little,there really is no need to let a car sit and warm up..

Jon94SE Jan 8, 2007 01:29 PM

Well here's a couple videos, I jacked it up and let the wheels freespin and now it sounds like its somthing in the passenger side knucle region. Just looking for some last minute suggestions before I tear it apart. thanks.

http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=P1080003.flv


http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=P1080002.flv

Greeny Jan 8, 2007 01:52 PM

Sounds like a bad wheel bearing,or a bad input shaft bearing in the transmission..

Jon94SE Jan 8, 2007 06:39 PM

I dont think it's the input shaft bearing because we rebuilt the tranny just last summer. I suppose it could be the bearing on that side.

Matt93SE Jan 8, 2007 08:30 PM

could be anything on the suspension that's bent....
knuckle, tie rod end, warped brake rotor, bent control arm, bent axle...

I'd look for something bent in the rotating assembly... axle or wheel bearing/hub.

I've also had this exact problem recently on my chevy pickup.. bad brake line causing the fluid to not discharge from the caliper upon brake release. this caused the caliper to rub on one section of the rotor and eventually caused a SEVERE warpage and vibration issue while driving... new brake line, caliper, and rotor was required before the problem was solved (because I kept driving on it and ruined everything)

505max94se Jan 9, 2007 04:02 AM

So you did actually islolate the sound to the passenger side of the car?? I thought it was the driver side?? The wheel that I broke was on the front, driver's side of the car and I really don't think that caused the problem. I broke the wheel because a median was sticking out into my lane. It was complete BS... After I broke the wheel the alignment was still good and there wasn't any vibrations... Which axle did you replace??

Jon94SE Jan 9, 2007 10:39 AM

I've replaced everything that rotates on the driver side. In the car it feels like it's on the driver side but out side it sounds like its on the passenger side. Unfortunatly it's almost undrivable now. Which side broke when you did that reverse burnout?

505max94se Jan 9, 2007 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jon94SE
I've replaced everything that rotates on the driver side. In the car it feels like it's on the driver side but out side it sounds like its on the passenger side. Unfortunatly it's almost undrivable now. Which side broke when you did that reverse burnout?

I never did a reverse burnout... I did break the passenger side axle, but I replaced it... The problem wasn't there when I sold you the car and I doubt it has anything to do with how I drove the car. It almost seems like it's the passenger side axle support bearing. I can't really help too much because I'm not there, I wish I was... You should have a good mechanic take a look at it.

internetautomar Jan 10, 2007 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE
could be anything on the suspension that's bent....
knuckle, tie rod end, warped brake rotor, bent control arm, bent axle...

I'd look for something bent in the rotating assembly... axle or wheel bearing/hub.

I've also had this exact problem recently on my chevy pickup.. bad brake line causing the fluid to not discharge from the caliper upon brake release. this caused the caliper to rub on one section of the rotor and eventually caused a SEVERE warpage and vibration issue while driving... new brake line, caliper, and rotor was required before the problem was solved (because I kept driving on it and ruined everything)

You drive a Cheby?
typical texan ;)

Mattster Jan 10, 2007 08:12 PM

Nothing wrong with chevy.

mszilves Jan 10, 2007 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by 505max94se
I never did a reverse burnout... I did break the passenger side axle, but I replaced it... The problem wasn't there when I sold you the car and I doubt it has anything to do with how I drove the car. It almost seems like it's the passenger side axle support bearing. I can't really help too much because I'm not there, I wish I was... You should have a good mechanic take a look at it.

:sprint: on the support bearing

I had the same problem when I bought mine, and it steadily got worse. It was completely shredded by the time I found it. Replaced the shaft, and it ran perfectly after that, no vibrations.

internetautomar Jan 11, 2007 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mattster
Nothing wrong with chevy.

Duh.
I had my chevy longer than you :p

Mattster Jan 11, 2007 12:54 PM

I get bored easy. Trading my S10 with V8 swap for another Chevy though. K5 full size blazer 4wd. More fun going offroading. Once you own a Chevy you cant have it any other way. You have to have one. Good ol' V8s.

Jeff92se Jan 11, 2007 01:02 PM

Damn, I had a spare support bearing too. Check NWmaximas, Tony might have an extra. I sold him my spare VE30DE. It had one attached when I sold it and I don't think he needed it. Maybe MrGone has one still?

Jon94SE Jan 12, 2007 01:09 AM

Yeah I thought about the support bearing awhile back but doubted it, seems like the only possible problem now though. If anyone does have an extra for sale let me know :thumbsup:

Matt93SE Jan 12, 2007 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by internetautomar
You drive a Cheby?
typical texan ;)

I have a beater truck for hauling stuff around. I wouldn't say I drive it... I've put maybe 1500 miles on it since I got it 1.5 years ago- and 500 miles of that was the drive home.

internetautomar Jan 13, 2007 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE
I have a beater truck for hauling stuff around. I wouldn't say I drive it... I've put maybe 1500 miles on it since I got it 1.5 years ago- and 500 miles of that was the drive home.

Sounds like backpedaling to me :hide:

datsundesmond Jan 16, 2007 09:37 PM

I had that same problem and took it to the local tire shop. it turned out to be the tire belts were coming apart insite the tire.

they said I didn't have too much longer untill it would have blown out. I was pleased to find out it was someting that simple.
put your spare on the front on the side that took the brunt of the crash and see if that is it.

Matt93SE Jan 17, 2007 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by internetautomar
Sounds like backpedaling to me :hide:

how's that backpedaling? the truck is a POS and I hate it, but it was free, so I'm keeping it. I spend more money on parts than I do on gasoline on it..
but yeah.. I own it.. I drive it when I have to. but it sits in the street 360 days of the year.


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