Exhaust Studs
What is the best way to check them to see if they are bad? Can I get a visual on all of them from the engine bay?
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Start the engine, pop the hood, and listen! In some cases you can also feel the exhaust by holding your hand above the manifold. If they haven't ever been replaced, then chances are you need to do it.
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They are bad. They all are bad.
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Most of the bolt ends can be seen from the engine bay, but some needs to be seen from under the car, mainly the rear stud/bolts.
If the nut is missing, then the stud has broken. |
Originally Posted by goon9
(Post 6329557)
They are bad. They all are bad.
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just replace them all.
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Originally Posted by goon9
(Post 6329557)
They are bad. They all are bad.
Do it right with OEM studs and it should last a while. ~Alex |
Use Z31 turbo studs.
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Originally Posted by maxitech
(Post 6330022)
Use Z31 turbo studs.
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Originally Posted by Greeny
(Post 6330064)
IIRC the maxima/z31 manifold studs have been superseded into the same part.
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Our cars seem to have a " sickness" for broken studs Both of my 3rd gens had broken ones. Both VE AND VG... Use z31 TURBO studs and replace em all.The tricky one is behind the power steering pump..lol
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I've been extremely lucky on my ve, 320,000 miles and only one broken stud, but no exhaust leak from it as of yet..:noes:
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There is a write up how to replace them. I did it the first time to the 't' according to the write up by drilling and EZ outting them. That took me 6 hours to back out about 8 broken ones. The 2nd Time I did it it only took an hour with a Mig welder! Just build a weld out by hitting the broken stud, then weld a bolt on to it and wrench it out :)
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Originally Posted by Greeny
(Post 6330160)
I've been extremely lucky on my ve, 320,000 miles and only one broken stud, but no exhaust leak from it as of yet..:noes:
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none of my 4 had bad studs :gotme:
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I sometimes hear a tick, like the noise you hear after turning off the car. Should I assume it is exhaust studs?
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does it tick faster when you rev the engine? if so, its definitely a leak. with the engine cold and off, stick your head in and take a peak.
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sometimes u can smell exhaust fumes in the engine bay too
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Study these diagrams, then when the engine is COLD, simply stick your fingers there and feel for the studs where they are supposed to be..
For VG http://www1.autozone.com/images/cds/...3d801f4d20.jpg http://www1.autozone.com/images/cds/...3d801f4d21.jpg For VE http://www1.autozone.com/images/cds/...3d801f4d28.jpg http://www1.autozone.com/images/cds/...3d801f4d29.jpg |
nissan gets away with a lot between the studs n window regulators n trannys
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Originally Posted by goon9
(Post 6329557)
They are bad. They all are bad.
On my original engine, they weren't making noise, but when the engine was pulled, I could see some black around some of the studs. Of course, a couple were gone... |
The replacement studs (Z31) are little better, but not perfect
I did the studs TWICE. Back in 1998 and then again in 2007. I did replace one window regulator, but transmission still shifts like it did 11 years ago when I bought the car. |
Originally Posted by augiedog964
(Post 6338176)
I sometimes hear a tick, like the noise you hear after turning off the car. Should I assume it is exhaust studs?
goon9: "There is a write up how to " ---> where is there? |
Originally Posted by Wiking
(Post 6430150)
VGE :( poem: My tickin stopped as bolt dropped.
goon9: "There is a write up how to " ---> where is there? Here's what I did recently.... Not studs but was super cheap and pretty strong, surely not as strong as a turbo stud. The bolts are rated 10.9 and thread in much further than a regular stud. https://media5.dropshots.com/photos/...526/044117.jpg |
Originally Posted by goon9
(Post 6433039)
Why in the stickies of course. http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...68&postcount=7
Here's what I did recently.... Not studs but was super cheap and pretty strong, surely not as strong as a turbo stud. The bolts are rated 10.9 and thread in much further than a regular stud. https://media5.dropshots.com/photos/...526/044117.jpg |
um, be careful when you use longer bolts. some places a longer bolt will either come out the other side or bottom out and break something inside the block (seen it happen many times before)
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
(Post 6433329)
um, be careful when you use longer bolts. some places a longer bolt will either come out the other side or bottom out and break something inside the block (seen it happen many times before)
I measured and trimmed the bolts.... I them 1-2 mm shorter than the full length. I don't know the what class the turbo studs are. |
Originally Posted by goon9
(Post 6433672)
I measured and trimmed the bolts.... I them 1-2 mm shorter than the full length.
I don't know the what class the turbo studs are. |
Originally Posted by goon9
(Post 6433039)
Why in the stickies of course. http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...68&postcount=7
Here's what I did recently.... Not studs but was super cheap and pretty strong, surely not as strong as a turbo stud. The bolts are rated 10.9 and thread in much further than a regular stud. https://media5.dropshots.com/photos/...526/044117.jpg --->I guess no scheduling in bolts change with these gasoline prices... Stud broke and now O2 semi-froze. |
Originally Posted by Wiking
(Post 6433982)
I want u to come and help; free lodging promised in exotic midnight sun summer... I promise to swap all the mosquitoes.
--->I guess no scheduling in bolts change with these gasoline prices... Stud broke and now O2 semi-froze. |
Originally Posted by capedcadaver
(Post 6434016)
you might want to add a few of the Scandanavian Blondies to the list of promises... and maybe a few pints of something that burns a little on the way down that we don't get in the States.
Maxima drinks all, driver none. |
Originally Posted by beez5spdmax
(Post 6344488)
nissan gets away with a lot between the studs n window regulators n trannys
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One reason behind broken studs could be Y-pipe heat expansion strain. Why not weld a short flex in the front pipe while doing this job? Objections?
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Originally Posted by Wiking
(Post 6434066)
One reason behind broken studs could be Y-pipe heat expansion strain. Why not weld a short flex in the front pipe while doing this job? Objections?
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Good post answers my ticking question; turns out i have a bolt missing. But now my other question. This week i have been having trouble starting my car from cold.(its fine once its warm) So of course i have been popin the clutch but anyway i stop today at the gas station to fill her up. When i went to start her and pull off i couldn't get the car over 2000rpm with out sputtering. I have not put the bolt in but could that be the cause? :confused:
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Originally Posted by MaxDude08
(Post 6435069)
Good post answers my ticking question; turns out i have a bolt missing. But now my other question. This week i have been having trouble starting my car from cold.(its fine once its warm) So of course i have been popin the clutch but anyway i stop today at the gas station to fill her up. When i went to start her and pull off i couldn't get the car over 2000rpm with out sputtering. I have not put the bolt in but could that be the cause? :confused:
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Yes it would still climb but slowly so i would just switch out. But under futher review it looks like i am missing 2 bolts and also seems like the gasket has burned away. Ill take some pictures to show. VG motor.
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The studs don't break off because they're too weak. The studs are breaking off because they were installed improperly at the factory.
You're not supposed to bottom the stud out in the bottom of the hole OR butt the tapered shoulder against the side of the head. either of these actions will cause points of high stress in the bolt and will cause premature failure. I'll scan the article I'm referring to when I get some time. |
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v0zzbc&s=3
pic of studs / gasket |
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
(Post 6435300)
The studs don't break off because they're too weak. The studs are breaking off because they were installed improperly at the factory.
You're not supposed to bottom the stud out in the bottom of the hole OR butt the tapered shoulder against the side of the head. either of these actions will cause points of high stress in the bolt and will cause premature failure. I'll scan the article I'm referring to when I get some time. |
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