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Old 10-13-2008, 08:03 PM
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Negative pulse door locks?

I'm in the middle of installing a new Clifford Matrix 12.5 alarm. All I have left to do is splice into the door trigger, parking light and door lock/unlock wires, but it got dark outside so i'll finish tomorrow. In the mean time, can someone confirm that wiring the alarm so it sends a ground pulse to the gray/red and sky blue wires, or what the Clifford guide describes as "Ground pulses driving factory relays" is the correct configuration for the Max? I'm pretty sure that's it, but the wiring diagrams in the FSM do not note any relays in the door lock circuit
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:26 PM
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Yes, it's negative.
http://blehmco.com/faq/wiring_info/alarm_info/

I' ve got an old skool Clifford 8000 (????) wired up myself acording to the diagram and it works fine.
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Awesome, thanks Matt. Good to know your old school Clifford still chrips. Hopefully mine follows suit.
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for the most part it does. something came loose on the door lock wire and took out the lock button on the door as well, but unlock works fine. So I just push the lock down when I get out of the car and it locks all 4 doors. remote works fine to unlock.

I figure it's probably just a loose wire, but I'm too lazy to dig into the jungle under the dash and fix it.
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
I figure it's probably just a loose wire, but I'm too lazy to dig into the jungle under the dash and fix it.
Haha, "jungle" is pretty accurate. Finished up today, tested the alarm and then put everything back together. But the heater was blowing cold air, ACC gets confused sometimes when you disconnect the battery, so I ran the diagnostic test which usually slaps some sense into it, but it didn't work. I was pissed for a minute thinking I knocked a wire loose on the ACC harness I built. Luckily, lowering the temp to 65 reset the mix motor, so all is good.

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how far does your clutch pedal arm go toward the black rubberish matting? if it goes all the way to it then those yellow wires might be in peril.... my clutch pedal arm already broke the rubber matting on mine before i ran up the start switch to get rid of the deadzone at the bottom..

other than that it looks like a pretty clean install
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Yeah, been there, done that. Man I don't know how those guys do this all day!
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
how far does your clutch pedal arm go toward the black rubberish matting? if it goes all the way to it then those yellow wires might be in peril.... my clutch pedal arm already broke the rubber matting on mine before i ran up the start switch to get rid of the deadzone at the bottom..

other than that it looks like a pretty clean install
The spooled up yellow wires aren't connected to anything at the moment. They're for a project that isn't finished.. I stuffed them behind the kick panel after I got everything back together.

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Yeah, been there, done that. Man I don't know how those guys do this all day!
Man, you're right about that. I hope they pay those guys well. But for the $250-$300 an electronics store would have charged for basic installation of my alarm, the installer(s) would probably only get a fraction of it
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The spooled up yellow wires aren't connected to anything at the moment. They're for a project that isn't finished.. I stuffed them behind the kick panel after I got everything back together.
enlighten us...
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Yeah, been there, done that. Man I don't know how those guys do this all day!
that pic is the reason I don't have RSKE in all my cars. it's too much of a pain.
maybe I'll do it on this car.
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
enlighten us...
It's not finished yet
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Originally Posted by Hectic
It's not finished yet
ETA???
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I think I said 2 weeks a couple months ago I'm doing more than I originally planned though. I have probably 30 hours of work left based on what I've done so far. I could probably finish in a week, but realistically it'll be a month or two.
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Originally Posted by Hectic
I think I said 2 weeks a couple months ago I'm doing more than I originally planned though. I have probably 30 hours of work left based on what I've done so far. I could probably finish in a week, but realistically it'll be a month or two.
haha i know what you mean. "suspension work HOPEFULLY this weekend" took what... 5 weeks? and the shop fubar'd my wheel bearings upon install so i'm going back again for warranty replacement and realignment cuz they botched my alignment too.... and of course i got to finish installing the interior i got from Goon... and figure out why my power locks don't work anymore
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Yeah, been there, done that. Man I don't know how those guys do this all day!

Lol you should have removed the seat, your job would have been so much easier.
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Originally Posted by GStrength
Lol you should have removed the seat, your job would have been so much easier.
haha yea... i removed my seat to install the clutch pedal and rewire the start/cruise switches when i did my 5spd swap..... was mucho better.
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