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Old 11-03-2008, 08:57 AM
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Recommendations for struts/shocks

I have a 91 GXE with original struts and shocks in place and 184,500 miles. They must be shot and I was looking for recommendations for replacement. Thanks!
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All four sides are struts, no shocks.

Best= Koni struts(but very expensive and labor intensive to install.)

Better= Tokico struts. (as good or better then oem)

Good= KYB struts.

Stay away from= Monroe/ Gabriel
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Originally Posted by Greeny
... struts, no shocks....
Shocking new discovery for me in englitch vocabulary: pls explain me the difference between those words...

Worst in the World = LIP
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Originally Posted by Wiking
Shocking new discovery for me in englitch vocabulary: pls explain me the difference between those words...

Worst in the World = LIP
from the net somewhere...

Although shocks and struts are a lot alike in function, they are very different in design. A shock is designed to control spring motion as is the strut, but the strut acts as a suspension part and sometimes replaces other suspension parts. Sometimes used as pivot points for the steering and as an adjustment tool for alignment purposes, struts can absorb side loads where shocks do not.

usually struts reside inside of the spring, while shocks do not.
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Originally Posted by Wiking
Shocking new discovery for me in englitch vocabulary: pls explain me the difference between those words...

Worst in the World = LIP
RWD cars usually use shocks. in terms of damping, shock and strut to the same thing. but the shock is a stand-alone piece. You can take all the shocks off my grandpa's oldsmobile without affecting the car's ability to support its own weight on all 4 wheels... the RIDE will be very very uncontrolled and the car will be VERY dangerous to drive, but it will still go...

on most FWD cars, struts are used instead of dual-A-arms in front, because the configuration of dual A-arms usually gets in the way of the CV axle. on a strut-based suspension you cannot just REMOVE the strut... if you did, the car would collapse onto the ground. the strut combines shocks, suspension link points, turning axis for the front wheels, and mounting cups for the springs.... it's all one big happy family.

shocks: note brown thing can be removed without the structure of everything falling apart


strut: note CV axle not shown... but just think what happens if you remove the yellow part...

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Old 11-03-2008, 01:29 PM
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So technically it's two struts up front, and strut cartridges for the rear.
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Originally Posted by Pearl93VE
So technically it's two struts up front, and strut cartridges for the rear.
technically, yeah..

point is, shocks can be removed/installed without removing the coil springs. Struts cannot.
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Originally Posted by Pearl93VE
So technically it's two struts up front, and strut cartridges for the rear.
maxima is struts all around. the rear struts don't really rotate, but everything is still all in-line with everything else. the front struts are "Macpherson" struts and "chapman" struts in the rear. the casing and all is the strut itself... the crap inside it (liquid or gas-filled, seals, plunger, all that crap) is really the shock absorber. so in a way, the rear cartridges alone are just shocks, but due to the fact that the strut rod itself is integral to the structure as a whole, you still cannot assemble the suspension without it.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
maxima is struts all around. the rear struts don't really rotate, but everything is still all in-line with everything else. the front struts are "Macpherson" struts and "chapman" struts in the rear. the casing and all is the strut itself... the crap inside it (liquid or gas-filled, seals, plunger, all that crap) is really the shock absorber. so in a way, the rear cartridges alone are just shocks, but due to the fact that the strut rod itself is integral to the structure as a whole, you still cannot assemble the suspension without it.
Yeah I know. Just clarifying to the OP that he wouldn't need to buy entire rear rear strut towers. I'm pretty familiar with ours... not too hard do the rear once you've replaced strut cartridge/springs in the rear. 2nd time is a breeze.

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in the rest of the languages a shock and strut are called the same thing AKA a Dampner.
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
in the rest of the languages a shock and strut are called the same thing AKA a Dampner.
U got it!

Suspension is no news here, the inconsistent utilization of mentioned two shocking words keeps outsiders wonderin who what where why...

The core issue is braking mass velocity. The English words mix the whole suspension structure and method in the issue - not good practice to specify things.

Thks for the detailed explanation, the englitch divided issue, I am learning...

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As Brian said, other languages stick on the issue = ONE word; see some EU languages listed for Shock Absorber - below:

Deutch or Dutch: Stoßdämpfer
Italian: ammortizzatore
French: amortisseur
Suomi: Iskunvaimentaja
Svenska: Stötdämpäre

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Shocks use springs as a separate component but Struts doesnt....
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by burhan92SE
Shocks use springs as a separate component but Struts doesnt....
that is not a clear delineation. Coil over shocks, ever heard of them?
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
that is not a clear delineation. Coil over shocks, ever heard of them?
Even a coilover shock can be removed without touching/removing the springs, no strut can replaced without first removing the coil spring.
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Originally Posted by Greeny
Even a coilover shock can be removed without touching/removing the springs, no strut can replaced without first removing the coil spring.
in both cases the the spring comes with when you remove the strut.
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