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1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 3, 2009 10:49 PM

I don't Know How You Guys Removed that RH VG Drive Axle
 
I tried and tried FOREVER to get it out with a chisel - trying to separate it from that bracket thing. Penetrant - everything. I ran out of Acetylene.

Did you guys have some trick to get this out? In the end I cut the axle out tonight, I cut it once close to the the tranny so when I lift the engine out it will clear, and i'll probably cut the other side off near the knuckle tommorow, although it may clear it if I angle it down and lift engine out.

DanNY Aug 4, 2009 06:46 AM

what the eff?!?

the carrier bearing...half is mounted to the car...the other is part of the axle.
loosen the 3 10mm (i think 10mm) bolts.
take a hammer and hit the part of the carrier that's part of the axle. don't hit it to separate it...just hit it hard enough so it'll spin/turns. hammer it at one of the ears where the bolt goes through it. once you got it to spin it will walk it's way out. then use a pry bar and pry it out.

there should be absolutely no reason why you needed to cut the axle.

tunafish51 Aug 4, 2009 07:37 AM

Mine was rusted in took the mechanic a while to work it outta there

jonmandude Aug 4, 2009 07:41 AM

I just simply removed the 3 bolts, slid right out. Of course mine has never seen snow or rust.

BenStoked Aug 4, 2009 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by jonmandude (Post 7142858)
I just simply removed the 3 bolts, slid right out. Of course mine has never seen snow or rust.

:squint:
I see what you did there...

Matt93SE Aug 4, 2009 07:54 AM

Remember how much of this goober's car is made of rust. that's probably all one piece by now.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE (Post 7142876)
Remember how much of this goober's car is made of rust. that's probably all one piece by now.

:rofl: new meaning to "unibody" eh?

mine took me an unenviable 2 hours to get out the first time i tried (feb 2008, 5spd swap). basically i took a screwdriver and a bfh and hammered on one of the ears to rotate it about 15 degrees, until the ear was sticking out far enough to re-orient the screwdriver in such a way as to hammer it from the centerline of the car outward... after HUNDREDS of hammersmacks, the sumbitsch finally came out...

Matt93SE Aug 4, 2009 10:12 AM

The other way you can do it (if you have a VLSD tranny) is to remove the driver side axle and use a long metal punch.. shove it through the tranny and whack the passenger axle out with a BFH and the punch. Just make sure you use a brass punch to keep from deforming the end of the axle or potentially shattering a tool steel punch and sending the fragments into the tranny.

1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 4, 2009 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by DanNY (Post 7142814)
what the eff?!?

the carrier bearing...half is mounted to the car...the other is part of the axle.
loosen the 3 10mm (i think 10mm) bolts.
take a hammer and hit the part of the carrier that's part of the axle. don't hit it to separate it...just hit it hard enough so it'll spin/turns. hammer it at one of the ears where the bolt goes through it. once you got it to spin it will walk it's way out. then use a pry bar and pry it out.

there should be absolutely no reason why you needed to cut the axle.

Tried it all - all those things. In the end cutting it was the fastest - I was throwing the axle away anyways.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by 1993-VG30E-GXE (Post 7143064)
Tried it all - all those things. In the end cutting it was the fastest - I was throwing the axle away anyways.

uh.... wtf did you actually cut?

1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 4, 2009 11:06 AM

The axle, I cut it right through the middle. And i'm cutting the other side right through the middle near the knuckle so when I lift the engine out it doesn't smack the side. Then i'll deal with getting it out once it's out of the car, and maybe I can smack it in a vice or something.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by 1993-VG30E-GXE (Post 7143080)
The axle, I cut it right through the middle. And i'm cutting the other side right through the middle near the knuckle so when I lift the engine out it doesn't smack the side. Then i'll deal with getting it out once it's out of the car, and maybe I can smack it in a vice or something.

i would have just made 2 cuts on the inner side of the axle so that you could pull the end part out of the transmission, then whack the stuck part out of the ring that way.

1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 4, 2009 03:04 PM

I cut it wherever there was clearance for the tool and where the tranny can drop down on the tranny jack. Then i'm cutting the other side tonight so it doesn't smack into the side when I remove the engine from the top.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 03:35 PM

soooo you're removing the engine b/c you found a non-rusty shell to put the car in..... RIGHT?

nitrous360 Aug 4, 2009 03:44 PM

No core charge??

James92SE Aug 4, 2009 04:44 PM

In 1993-VG30E-GXE's defense, I swear it once took me over a day to finally get the passenger side axle out of the carrier bearing on my originally-from-Pennsylvania-VE. It was all pretty much rusted into one solid piece. It didn't help that I was chiseling on it for hours on what I thought was the "seam" and it turned out not to be the seam. Of course, I couldn't tell that from all the rust

I am pretty sure that was hands down the most dreadful and frustrating car-related experience of my life.

1991Maxima1991 Aug 4, 2009 05:04 PM

im happy mine slid right out when i took the 3 bolts out only thing that gave me a problem was getting to one of the bolts because its up behind the exhaust in a weird spot...

1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 4, 2009 05:07 PM

Actually James, do you have any tips on how I can get it separated once the engine is out and on a stand? I don't want to end up buying that bracket - i'm scared to find out how much it is.

Nitrous - no core charge because I have another back up axle. Caped - stop worrying about my rust - and go try and meet girls. You concern yourself too much with my well being :)

I'm going out to cut the rest off now. Wish me luck.

BenStoked Aug 4, 2009 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1993-VG30E-GXE (Post 7143517)
A Caped - stop worrying about my rust

not concerned about you, anymore. we no longer care (:hide:)
it's the other people on the road when your car blows all the struts thru the mounts, and swerves into oncoming traffic (or wherever, it will be completely out of control for at least three seconds, more if you can't regain control).

1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 4, 2009 05:42 PM

Ben your starting to sound like a nerd too. Maybe you should come on up to Canada and protest on the corner of the highway about the ills of rust and how any car that has rust should be destroyed, because all those unsuspecting families will be killed because of a strut mount that you suspect is rusty.

Did you play hockey when you were a kid? Buck up boy. No sissy talk on my threads please.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by BenStoked (Post 7143540)
not concerned about you, anymore. we no longer care (:hide:)
it's the other people on the road when your car blows all the struts thru the mounts, and swerves into oncoming traffic (or wherever, it will be completely out of control for at least three seconds, more if you can't regain control).

^^^^^THIS


Originally Posted by 1993-VG30E-GXE (Post 7143562)
Ben your starting to sound like a nerd too. Maybe you should come on up to Canada and protest on the corner of the highway about the ills of rust and how any car that has rust should be destroyed, because all those unsuspecting families will be killed because of a strut mount that you suspect is rusty.

Did you play hockey when you were a kid? Buck up boy. No sissy talk on my threads please.

stop getting all mach0-m@n about the fact that we are more compassionate human beings than you..... rusty cars are dangerous. sh!t snaps, "accidents" happen. i use quotes because those "accidents" would be avoidable if you'd man up yourself and actually get a roadworthy car frame. your 'love' of 3rd gens won't get you far when a your left-front suspension collapses and steers you into a MPV carrying a couple and their 3 kids.....

1993-VG30E-GXE Aug 4, 2009 05:51 PM

What - you hiding behind a couch? Common dudes - I like you two but sometimes you sound like little babies. Crying about rust and all the dying families on the highway. You wouldn't last one second up here in Canada. People up here DON'T CARE about rust. Most don't even rust proof.

Now I really do have to go cut that axle out.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by 1993-VG30E-GXE (Post 7143572)
What - you hiding behind a couch? Common dudes - I like you two but sometimes you sound like little babies. Crying about rust and all the dying families on the highway. You wouldn't last one second up here in Canada. People up here DON'T CARE about rust. Most don't even rust proof.

Now I really do have to go cut that axle out.

while you're out there cutting the axle, go ahead and cut your testicles off too. because i pray to GOD that you never produce offspring as disconnected from human decency as yourself.

honestly... how can you be so insensitive and sleep at night? do you like hearing about people dying in crashes because the car at fault was not roadworthy? do you WANT to kill someone? would that PLEASE you? make you happy? if so, go join the military. kill terrorists. make the world a better place.

300zmax Aug 4, 2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by CapedCadaver (Post 7143575)
while you're out there cutting the axle, go ahead and cut your testicles off too. because i pray to GOD that you never produce offspring as disconnected from human decency as yourself.

honestly... how can you be so insensitive and sleep at night? do you like hearing about people dying in crashes because the car at fault was not roadworthy? do you WANT to kill someone? would that PLEASE you? make you happy? if so, go join the military. kill terrorists. make the world a better place.

dude i just want to see pictures of what hes cutting, then pictures of the rest of the rest of the car! im a bit of a massacist i love to see the before shots of a potental wreck

BenStoked Aug 4, 2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by CapedCadaver (Post 7143575)
while you're out there cutting the axle, go ahead and cut your testicles off too. because i pray to GOD that you never produce offspring as disconnected from human decency as yourself.

honestly... how can you be so insensitive and sleep at night? do you like hearing about people dying in crashes because the car at fault was not roadworthy? do you WANT to kill someone? would that PLEASE you? make you happy? if so, go join the military. kill terrorists. make the world a better place.

Canada has a military?

as to the OP's Q. about hockey; no. I have never played. Americans (for the most part) have enough brains not to actively participate in sports that cause brain damage (+ broken bones, +missing teeth, + broken noses, +broken...).

James92SE Aug 4, 2009 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by 1993-VG30E-GXE (Post 7143517)
Actually James, do you have any tips on how I can get it separated once the engine is out and on a stand? I don't want to end up buying that bracket - i'm scared to find out how much it is.

I would guess your best bet would be to soak it heavily in some PB Blaster or something, then maybe scratch around on it and try to find the "seam", maybe stick it in a vice and pound away on it and try to get it to spin like Dan mentioned.

It may really not turn out to be that hard once it's out of the car though. Part of the whole problem with doing grunt work under the car is you're not in position to get good leverage/force on it. With it out of the car, heck, it may "spin" free with one or two good whacks.

CapedCadaver Aug 4, 2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by 300zmax (Post 7143588)
dude i just want to see pictures of what hes cutting, then pictures of the rest of the rest of the car! im a bit of a massacist i love to see the before shots of a potental wreck

hmm... perhaps. i WOULD like to see some better pics of his deathtrap to see jost how dangerous it really is. the parts car i got from vernk was literally crumbling to pieces; if you kicked the door or fender, STUFF WOULD FALL OFF. matter of fact the tow truck partially tore the left rear tow hook of the frame when loading the car onto the flatbed.......


Originally Posted by BenStoked (Post 7143589)
Canada has a military?

as to the OP's Q. about hockey; no. I have never played. Americans (for the most part) have enough brains not to actively participate in sports that cause brain damage (+ broken bones, +missing teeth, + broken noses, +broken...).

i don't get what playing hockey has to do with surviving a car wreck anyways...... but as for the potential of it.... anyone remember when colombianmax snapped a parallel link? he damn near wrecked it. and that's just ONE little part. a strut collaps or something would be alot bigger problem to keep under control. hell i have a hard enough time keeping MY car under control with all the suspension issues i have... but at least nothing on my car is at risk of flat-out breaking.


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