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CMax03 08-13-2009 09:16 PM

Ignition Upgrade for VG
 
Got the oil filled coil and Mallory Ignition control box today ...trying to get all the brackets fabbed up for the coil and the ignition box... Got pics of the coil so far! That puny epoxy crap... is a gonner, Im trying to burn whatever is in there....without that intermittent behavior before the coil goes out! These Oem coils will test fine but bog and misfire when they reach near the end of thier service...:eek:
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...ictures008.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures019-1.jpg

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures009-1.jpg

maximo018 08-13-2009 09:38 PM

Thats nice man. I'm ordering things now. I got my block back today and my ported out exhaust manifolds from Aaron. I'll post comparison picks of my stock vs his on my home page. Major Difference! Will order more suspension stuff now.

infinitiblast 08-14-2009 07:59 AM

This thread makes me wonder if its my Coil pack that is causing all my misfire issues. Since my injectors all test out a-ok.

maxitech 08-14-2009 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by infinitiblast (Post 7156568)
This thread makes me wonder if its my Coil pack that is causing all my misfire issues. Since my injectors all test out a-ok.

You don't have coil packs. You have a distributor and an ignition coil. Replace the distributor cap and rotor, plugs, and wires and report back.

infinitiblast 08-14-2009 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by maxitech (Post 7156717)
You don't have coil packs. You have a distributor and an ignition coil. Replace the distributor cap and rotor, plugs, and wires and report back.

Doh! Thats what I meant to say, but yeah anyways. Already replaced all those items still the same issues. But I dont wanna Hijack this thread.

Looks good let us know how it runs!

CMax03 08-14-2009 10:47 AM

The epoxy coils normally miss in under load conditions like during part throttle acceleration...

CapedCadaver 08-14-2009 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by CMax03 (Post 7156787)
The epoxy coils normally miss in under load conditions like during part throttle acceleration...

my car has always had a little bit of a stumble at like <5% throttle. less noticeable with the automatic tho. now with the manual it's hard to feather the throttle with it sort of gently stumbling and bucking a little bit. not nearly as bad as a dead-injector misfire tho.

CMax03 08-14-2009 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by CapedCadaver (Post 7156805)
my car has always had a little bit of a stumble at like <5% throttle. less noticeable with the automatic tho. now with the manual it's hard to feather the throttle with it sort of gently stumbling and bucking a little bit. not nearly as bad as a dead-injector misfire tho.

You can fix that with one of those $26-$40 Msd/ Accel/pertronix traditional oil filled coils! I did this to my 86.5 D21 Hardbody 6-7 years ago and it's never had any more coil problems! It's like about whenI was a kid I never saw my dad or uncle change an oil filled canister coil because it started misfiring. I saw them change one cause it was leaking oil and the rest were for higher perf coil (hotter spark) setups, and this was on big block Mopar V-8's.

CapedCadaver 08-14-2009 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by CMax03 (Post 7157270)
You can fix that with one of those $26-$40 Msd/ Accel/pertronix traditional oil filled coils! I did this to my 86.5 D21 Hardbody 6-7 years ago and it's never had any more coil problems! It's like about whenI was a kid I never saw my dad or uncle change an oil filled canister coil because it started misfiring. I saw them change one cause it was leaking oil and the rest were for higher perf coil (hotter spark) setups, and this was on big block Mopar V-8's.

well maybe not on the Max but i will keep that in mind for my ZedX

maxinout93 08-15-2009 05:58 PM

About how much does that coil cost, and where can you order one from? Is the setup easy?

CMax03 08-16-2009 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by maxinout93 (Post 7158591)
About how much does that coil cost, and where can you order one from? Is the setup easy?

I've been looking at Mallory's ignition control box for years, cause of it's price and being a digitally based control unit! So to keep every think in perspective I chose to use the Mallory 29440 oil filled coil! It's not the least expensive coil but it's really durable and robust! It's about a $89 coil, but it's can be done with any oil filled or epoxy canister coil from Pep Boys, O'Rielly, Advanced Auto, ect for about $30...Or the boneyard for about $5....
Yesterday I fabbed my control box bracket and Intake system heat shield Saturday and wow! I'm really happy how it came out. I wanted to place the ignition box in close proximity to the distributor and coil but, the instructions stated to mount the box as far as possible from the distributor! So since I've been relocating the battery to the trunk and there was going to be plenty of air moving around the air filter I choose that location! So my heat shield is double dutied, protecting my control box and aiding in lowering my intake temp! I will shoot some pics when my camera is returned from my niece!:)

CMax03 08-16-2009 08:44 PM

Here's my heatshield and ignition control box...
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures007-1.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures006-1.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures002-2.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures011-3.jpg

fattamax 08-18-2009 04:35 AM

looks great...any thoughts of fabing that heat shield for org members?

CMax03 08-18-2009 10:28 AM

You would have to relocate your battery to the trunk


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