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Engine sometime won't turn
A few days ago, my 92 Maxima won't start. It feels like engine got seized somehow. So I put it in the first gear, disconnected power transistor, and pushed the car to move the engine. After a few pushes, the starter can turn the engine. Then putting back the power transistor, I was able to start the car.
This morning, it happens to me again. So I had to go thru the same routine to start the car. My question is what could cause the engine to seize? Any suggestion is welcome. |
Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8367006)
A few days ago, my 92 Maxima won't start. It feels like engine got seized somehow. So I put it in the first gear, disconnected power transistor, and pushed the car to move the engine. After a few pushes, the starter can turn the engine. Then putting back the power transistor, I was able to start the car.
This morning, it happens to me again. So I had to go thru the same routine to start the car. My question is what could cause the engine to seize? Any suggestion is welcome. |
It might be your power transistor.
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Somebody put sugar in your gas tank...
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Originally Posted by DennisMik
(Post 8367586)
Somebody put sugar in your gas tank...
five things have caused these problems for me: loose/corroded battery cables (starter side, battery side, chassis side) bad battery. bad battery cables bad starter bad neutral safety switch (or shifter bushings on auto trans) |
Originally Posted by BenStoked
(Post 8367957)
phaggotry for a response, right there...
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Originally Posted by DennisMik
(Post 8367586)
Somebody put sugar in your gas tank...
if youve got a automatic, check your shifter bushing. on my 3rd gen i had the same thing, sometimes nothing would happen when you tried to start it and you had to go behind the car and push it and park would fully engage and it would start. you can still get the bushing from Nissan, had to order one from Nissan at work for another 3rd gen and it was $5 i think |
Check your starter. It's held in by like two bolts or something. When you try to start the car do you just hear a "click?" Your motor can't be seized if you're able to push start it. Also, you might also want to check your battery.
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You didn't specify if was an AT/ MT but if yours is AT then I'm pretty sure its the bushing.
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Originally Posted by maximo018
(Post 8368030)
You didn't specify if was an AT/ MT but if yours is AT then I'm pretty sure its the bushing.
So I put it in the first gear, disconnected power transistor, and pushed the car to move the engine. After a few pushes, the starter can turn the engine. |
Starter!
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if its an automatic wiggle the shifter and or use the red shift lock bypass button to move the shifter
and try starting in nuetral |
Originally Posted by LvR
(Post 8368055)
He actually did indirectlyAnyway, I don't know what the heck the disconnecting of the power transistor has to do with this all (or why anybody would even come to think of its involvement) .................... one can exert a lot more torque on the engine with the starter than during a simple bump-start, so I would think the obvious thing to blame is the starter or its associated mechanical/electrical components (cables/connections/battery/bushes/brushes)
Plus I was sleepy at that point when I wrote that. |
Hell with it this old I would replace the bushing anyways if it were the culprit or not. Its cheap and you don't have to worry about it for a long while.
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It is a manual shift car. Starter is good. The reason that I disconnected the power transistor is not to fire any cylinder in case ignition timing is messed up.
After pushing the car with the first gear on, feels like it overcomes some resistance to turn the engine. after that, the starter can turn the engine and start it. Not sure what causes the resistance. But it is there and I can hear a "clicking" sound from the engine bay right before engine stops turning. |
Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8369193)
It is a manual shift car. Starter is good. The reason that I disconnected the power transistor is not to fire any cylinder in case ignition timing is messed up.
After pushing the car with the first gear on, feels like it overcomes some resistance to turn the engine. after that, the starter can turn the engine and start it. Not sure what causes the resistance. But it is there and I can hear a "clicking" sound from the engine bay right before engine stops turning. |
Originally Posted by LvR
(Post 8369199)
Get the starter seen to and check cables/connections/bushes - as I said the starter can exert way more torque on the motor than a simple first-gear bump start, so if the starter cannot turn the motor the obvious is the answer
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Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8369201)
Thanks. Is there a way to test the starter?
The fact that you ask would lead me to believe the correct answer is to rather take it to a shop |
Originally Posted by LvR
(Post 8369204)
If you are sorta mechanically and electrically inclined you can strip and inspect the individual components and based on experience and visual indicators decide what if anything needs attention - in general its difficult for a non-specialist person to actually load test the thing, so your own level of experience is often the governing factor for success.
The fact that you ask would lead me to believe the correct answer is to rather take it to a shop I will go to a yard and get another starter to see if it will fix this problem. |
Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8369201)
Thanks. Is there a way to test the starter?
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The MAF Sensor Was the Problem
After replacing MAF sensor, this problem goes away. Other engine problems like stalling during warm and rough idle improved as well, although idle is still not very stable. But now I can start the engine and drive it normally.
Will continue working on the rough idle issue. |
Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8377370)
After replacing MAF sensor, this problem goes away. Other engine problems like stalling during warm and rough idle improved as well, although idle is still not very stable. But now I can start the engine and drive it normally.
Will continue working on the rough idle issue. |
I know the reason that the engine was not turning when I tried to start it was an electrical problem, not mechanical. The engine started acting strangely after I grounded the VTC. Plus, the MAF sensor was on its way out, seems like the ECU was stopping the engine.
After I replaced the MAF sensor, I reset the ECU as well. So, now I can start the engine. |
Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8377928)
I know the reason that the engine was not turning when I tried to start it was an electrical problem, not mechanical. The engine started acting strangely after I grounded the VTC. Plus, the MAF sensor was on its way out, seems like the ECU was stopping the engine.
After I replaced the MAF sensor, I reset the ECU as well. So, now I can start the engine. |
Originally Posted by bluewater
(Post 8377928)
I know the reason that the engine was not turning when I tried to start it was an electrical problem, not mechanical. The engine started acting strangely after I grounded the VTC. Plus, the MAF sensor was on its way out, seems like the ECU was stopping the engine.
After I replaced the MAF sensor, I reset the ECU as well. So, now I can start the engine. |
Oh and don't forget the most important of all that gets everyone (even though its the most simplest issue to fix) vacuum leak. Could be a lose connection or a worn hose. Matter of fact check for that first.
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Originally Posted by maximo018
(Post 8378096)
For the rough idle go through a check list of cleaning IACV, all injectors are firing , cleaning tb and making sure your getting correct air/fuel/spark. Its gotta be something simple. The hard part (I've had to experience) is finding what simple issue it is. GL With time, motivation and patience you'll figure it out. Thats what helped me.:cool:
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