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kyllr Sep 20, 2002 08:26 AM

Are 17's too small
 
Im getting a real good deal on some Racing Hart($600) rims but they 17's. Are 17's too small for Maxima's. They are the z5000's how do you think they would look on a black SE?http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/racinghart.htm
:o

I30tMikeD Sep 20, 2002 08:40 AM

17" too small? I don't think so. No one has ever said the look small.

ny96max Sep 20, 2002 08:49 AM

18's or nothing!!!:o
dont waste your money on 17's, when we all know 17's are way too small on a maxima.

If you think about it for another $300-500 you can have 18's!!

Ant

Finality Sep 20, 2002 08:55 AM

Yes they are too small. I have 18"s and they are too small. They look massive but thanks to the 4X4 spacing Nissan left the moment you mount them on your car they look like 16"s :o

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....0&pagenumber=1

voltman Sep 20, 2002 08:55 AM

Re: Are 17's too small
 

Originally posted by kyllr
Im getting a real good deal on some Racing Hart($600) rims but they 17's. Are 17's too small for Maxima's. They are the z5000's how do you think they would look on a black SE?http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/racinghart.htm
:o

Are they too small to you?

way2fast95 Sep 20, 2002 08:58 AM

Wheels size: Looks vs. Loss of speed and $$$
 
I think 18's look better myself, but i have been researching this for sometime on the .org and it seems that the loss of speed going from 17" rims to 18" rims is something to consider also. If you care more about looks, go with 18" or 19" or 20", but if you care more about speed go with 15" or 16" or 17".

Me I care about both, so I think I have finally decided to go with 17" rims they are middle of the road on looks, speed, and $$$.

fst96se Sep 20, 2002 09:20 AM

Re: Wheels size: Looks vs. Loss of speed and $$$
 

Originally posted by way2fast95
I think 18's look better myself, but i have been researching this for sometime on the .org and it seems that the loss of speed going from 17" rims to 18" rims is something to consider also. If you care more about looks, go with 18" or 19" or 20", but if you care more about speed go with 15" or 16" or 17".

Me I care about both, so I think I have finally decided to go with 17" rims they are middle of the road on looks, speed, and $$$.

I totally aggree. I like the look of 18's better, but unless I get centerline forged, my wheels will be 17's.

FameMax Sep 20, 2002 09:32 AM

Re: Are 17's too small
 

Originally posted by kyllr
Im getting a real good deal on some Racing Hart($600) rims but they 17's. Are 17's too small for Maxima's. They are the z5000's how do you think they would look on a black SE?http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/racinghart.htm
:o

the good thing about the 4th gen body is that it really isnt that big ( compaired to a 5th gen ) I have 17s on mine, that is as small as i would go for after market, however on the 5th i would only go as small as 18s

krazydutch44 Sep 20, 2002 09:33 AM

racing hart z5000 look good on a maxima. I think somebody on the .org has them in either 18 or 19. Most people regret getting 17's instead of 18's. I regret not getting 19's. If I were you I would put out the extra money and get 18's. How many of us really go racing everyday on the streets and on the track. If you want to race buy some slicks. Your isn't that much slower with 18's that a corolla or a civic will beat you.

JeffesonM Sep 20, 2002 09:45 AM

For whatever its worth, I've read many threads saying people wished they got 18s instead of 17s. Also some say they want 19s instead of 18s. But I've never heard anyone say "I wish I got 17s intead of my 18s".

So in my opinion, yes, too small. As ny96max said, the incremental cost is not too much.

fst96se Sep 20, 2002 09:50 AM


Originally posted by JeffesonM
For whatever its worth, I've read many threads saying people wished they got 18s instead of 17s. Also some say they want 19s instead of 18s. But I've never heard anyone say "I wish I got 17s intead of my 18s".

So in my opinion, yes, too small. As ny96max said, the incremental cost is not too much.

Whalentire has good wheel/tire packages....

For Example, the Enkei RS6 with Kuhmo Ecsta Supra 712 tires in a 235/45-17 was just $740....the 18" version is $1036...

About $300 difference... That is 40% more than the 17's. So, the marginal cost is quite high. The actual price difference may not b e in your opinion, but paying 40% more for a wheel that is just 5% bigger is not an economically sound decision.... (I have a masters degree in accounting....:p )

But hey, if you like the 18's better and have the money, go for it!!:kiss:

co_maxima98 Sep 20, 2002 08:36 PM

I am looking at 17" wheels. Could someone with 17" wheels please post a pic? I want to see how good (or bad) it looks.

For those of you who do have 17", are you happy or do you regret them?

I30tMikeD Sep 20, 2002 09:01 PM


Originally posted by co_maxima98
I am looking at 17" wheels. Could someone with 17" wheels please post a pic? I want to see how good (or bad) it looks.

For those of you who do have 17", are you happy or do you regret them?

Look in my profile for 17" pic. I don't regret them at all. Would I rather have 18"? Maybe, but I am satisfied with what I got.

erty67 Sep 20, 2002 09:03 PM

I am very satisfied with my 17"s and my 4x4 looking maxima! :D

voltman Sep 20, 2002 09:13 PM


Originally posted by co_maxima98
I am looking at 17" wheels. Could someone with 17" wheels please post a pic? I want to see how good (or bad) it looks.

For those of you who do have 17", are you happy or do you regret them?

Different style 17's will give off different images. What type of look are you going for?

co_maxima98 Sep 20, 2002 09:38 PM


Originally posted by voltman


Different style 17's will give off different images. What type of look are you going for?

Uh... well, I don't know what you'd call the look I'm "going for," but I do like the Konig Tantrums. I just don't know if going from $680 (17") to $900 (18") is really worth it for just the extra inch.

Decisions, decisions...

voltman Sep 20, 2002 09:39 PM


Originally posted by co_maxima98


Uh... well, I don't know what you'd call the look I'm "going for," but I do like the Konig Tantrums. I just don't know if going from $680 to $900 is really worth it for just the extra inch.

Decisions, decisions...

Cool. Straight spokes with minimal lip will make the wheel look larger. Tantrums in 17" don't look small at all.

co_maxima98 Sep 20, 2002 09:44 PM


Originally posted by voltman


Cool. Straight spokes with minimal lip will make the wheel look larger. Tantrums in 17" don't look small at all.

Awesome. I was hoping I wasn't going to have to spend that extra money. So, now I just have to wait a few weeks, and then wheels here I come! :cool: (just bought my springs and struts, so I want to get those put on first and see how it looks with my SE wheels).

Tifosi Sep 20, 2002 10:35 PM

I have 17's stock 2k2 SE rims and I'm going to 18" Enkei. Like fst96se said, Whalen has some awesome deal on 18" Enkei's. I was really happy with my 17's.....for awhile.... but with the car lowered AND the body kit, the car just doesn't look "right" still. I'm just debating whether to go with 18" RS6 or CDR9. If you are really really into performance (not saying I'm not) and want to squeeze every ounce out of your car, then yeah go ahead with 17's, but like my OEM SE rims, they are pigs already, so Enkei 18's are actually lighter than my 17's right now.

I30tMikeD Sep 21, 2002 05:52 AM


Originally posted by Tifosi
I have 17's stock 2k2 SE rims and I'm going to 18" Enkei. Like fst96se said, Whalen has some awesome deal on 18" Enkei's. I was really happy with my 17's.....for awhile.... but with the car lowered AND the body kit, the car just doesn't look "right" still. I'm just debating whether to go with 18" RS6 or CDR9. If you are really really into performance (not saying I'm not) and want to squeeze every ounce out of your car, then yeah go ahead with 17's, but like my OEM SE rims, they are pigs already, so Enkei 18's are actually lighter than my 17's right now.
If I had 17" stock, well then I would not but 17" aftermarket wheels. Since my stockers were 15" I was thrilled going to 17".

Since I've been bitten by this modding "bug" nothing ever seems good enough. There is always something I would rather have. I just have to leave well enough alone or I will go bankrupt!!!

desertmaxima Sep 21, 2002 06:56 AM

Well to undo the 4x4 look get some lower springs or coilovers, the money ya save on buy 17s instead of 18s can be put towards some lowering spgings or some coilovers if ya dont have em alredy. I currnetly have 16s on mine cause they were the best price FREE. But i plan on getting a set of 18s for my car some Volk TE 37s. And have my stock 15s with some nitto 555r for the drag strip, hehe

clee130 Sep 21, 2002 07:09 AM

Don't listen to anybody in this thread.

Get what you like.

If you ask for people's advice about something as subjective as rims, you're going to get 300 different responses.

moemakaveli Sep 21, 2002 07:30 AM

17's do not work with stock height at all. if your gong for spend get 17's ande lower it 2". if not get 18's and lowr it like 1.2-2" and it will look good. if you dont have the money for 18's then get 17 with about a 225/45/17 on teh tire size that ill feel up the wheel well more. i konw because i have had all of them. when i had my 17's with a 205/40/17 and stock height they looked like 14's but then after i lower it 2 inchs it looked better but i still wanted 18's but i knew it would slow me down.(8.4 in the 1/8 on 17's) i never did get a time on the 18's though.but nitrous took my stage two clutch and my trany so i dont spray anymore. im looking for 18's or 20's now.(its in the shop getting trany and air bags but on steel wheels).theres the problems i ran into. hope i coudl help.

el_aurens Sep 21, 2002 09:31 AM


Originally posted by co_maxima98


Uh... well, I don't know what you'd call the look I'm "going for," but I do like the Konig Tantrums. I just don't know if going from $680 (17") to $900 (18") is really worth it for just the extra inch.

Decisions, decisions...

I you want 17" Tantrums/tires, check out this thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=tantrums

NYCe MaXiMa Sep 21, 2002 09:46 AM

they only give the car a "stock" look
dont stand out much..
but..
the downside of 18s.. at least to me is:

-more $$$
-130$-200$ per tire
-easier to damage
-tires wear out quicker
-less all season capabilities
-heavier and therefore slower

kingrukus Sep 21, 2002 11:53 AM


Originally posted by voltman


Cool. Straight spokes with minimal lip will make the wheel look larger.

Exactly.

JeffesonM Sep 23, 2002 08:10 AM


Originally posted by fst96se

About $300 difference... That is 40% more than the 17's. So, the marginal cost is quite high. The actual price difference may not b e in your opinion, but paying 40% more for a wheel that is just 5% bigger is not an economically sound decision.... (I have a masters degree in accounting....:p )

pi r2 = area

pi(17)2 = 907.92
pi(18)2 = 1017.87
difference in area = 109.95
percent more this is than 17s = %12

So yes, I agree that the marginal cost is higher, and may outweigh the increased size you benefit from. As for making an "economically sound" decision, tell me the economic benefits of buying new rims at all. I'm pretty sure your regular rims work just fine.

Also consider the marginal cost should you later decide 17s aren't big enough. You then have to take a loss on selling the 17s plus buy the 18s.

clee probably does have the best advice... "Get what you like"

fst96se Sep 23, 2002 08:28 AM


Originally posted by JeffesonM


pi r2 = area

pi(17)2 = 907.92
pi(18)2 = 1017.87
difference in area = 109.95
percent more this is than 17s = %12

Radius is the distance from the center of the wheel to the edge....diameter is the distance from one end of the wheel to the other.
It actually comes out to be the same percentage though. Just remember the difference between radius and diameter.

pi(17/2)squared=226.865
pi(18/2)squared=254.34
Difference equals about 12%

I suggested the diameter of the wheels was 5% different. Not the area. Good point though, but still, not convincing.

I will reiterate my prior point though....if you want to do it, do it. You need need buy then talk. Enough of your "well I am gonna get (insert whatever expensive mod you can think of here)..."

JeffesonM Sep 23, 2002 08:34 AM

Okay, buddy. :rolleyes:

fst96se Sep 23, 2002 08:35 AM


Originally posted by co_maxima98


Uh... well, I don't know what you'd call the look I'm "going for," but I do like the Konig Tantrums. I just don't know if going from $680 (17") to $900 (18") is really worth it for just the extra inch.

Decisions, decisions...

Whalentire.com actually has the 17" tantrums for $150 each, total of $600 and the 18" tantrums for $171 each, or $684 for the set for the 18x7.5's....the 8" wide ones are $197 each for a total of $788

fst96se Sep 23, 2002 08:37 AM


Originally posted by JeffesonM
Okay, buddy. :rolleyes:
:D Did I win?:D

JeffesonM Sep 23, 2002 08:42 AM


Originally posted by fst96se


:D Did I win?:D

Actually I was hoping to save .org bandwith by not carrying on stupid arguments... but if it makes you feel good, than "Damn, you won!"

fst96se Sep 23, 2002 08:43 AM


Originally posted by JeffesonM


Actually I was hoping to save .org bandwith by not carrying on stupid arguments... but if it makes you feel good, than "Damn, you won!"

Thanks!:p

co_maxima98 Sep 23, 2002 08:44 AM


Originally posted by fst96se


Whalentire.com actually has the 17" tantrums for $150 each, total of $600 and the 18" tantrums for $171 each, or $684 for the set for the 18x7.5's....the 8" wide ones are $197 each for a total of $788

Hey, thanks. That's better than Discount Tire. Hmmmm... now I just might be able to get 18's.

JeffesonM Sep 23, 2002 08:48 AM


Originally posted by co_maxima98


Hey, thanks. That's better than Discount Tire. Hmmmm... now I just might be able to get 18's.

don't do it man, it's not a sound economic decision :laugh:

fst96se Sep 23, 2002 08:50 AM


Originally posted by JeffesonM


don't do it man, it's not a sound economic decision :laugh:

In this case, it is only 14% more for a wheel with 12% greater area!

Good decision!:laugh:

I30tMikeD Sep 23, 2002 08:54 AM


Originally posted by fst96se


Thanks!:p


:laugh:

meccanoble Sep 23, 2002 09:21 AM

17's are about standard, nothing i would complain about. If you have your car for sporting/racing, 17's are perfect. If you trying to floss chrome and all, they too small, especialy for a maxima. I would go with atleast 18's for flossing.

check my sig, even my 18" chrome looked a little small...stupid wheel gap and stupid low profile tires :mad:


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