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hlh0501 Dec 25, 2000 02:08 PM

I know you can play cdr's in the bose system, and I am even getting away with the cheap green ones(won't work in a lot of stereos). Now my question is, can you use cdrw's? Most cd players won't let you, will the Bose in my '95se let me?

Weasel Dec 25, 2000 02:44 PM

I didn't think you could play audio at all from CDRWs... I may be wrong though. My DVD-CD drive won't even read them, I have to read them in my CDR.

SterlingMistMax Dec 25, 2000 03:20 PM


Originally posted by hlh0501
I know you can play cdr's in the bose system, and I am even getting away with the cheap green ones(won't work in a lot of stereos). Now my question is, can you use cdrw's? Most cd players won't let you, will the Bose in my '95se let me?
i have a phillips magnavox and from
what they say the cdrw-s will only play in there brand player,,but the cdr-s play fine

dmbmaxima2k2 Dec 25, 2000 06:15 PM

Sure
 
I have 95 SE with Bose and play CD-R's all the time and also in a lot of other players. No problems. Only CD-R's though.
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Weasel Dec 25, 2000 06:20 PM

Re: Sure
 

Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
I have 95 SE with Bose and play CD-R's all the time and also in a lot of other players. No problems. Only CD-R's though.
Yeah same here... CDRs play fine (I have the base system with the add-on CD player). I doubt CDRWs will play, I can't play them on anything but the drive I wrote them with.

stefnee Dec 25, 2000 07:16 PM

My 99 SE-L can...
 
play CD-R's however it will not play CDRW's. My CD Writer gives me a warning when I am copying audio on CDRW's that it will only play in computers and not standard CD Players. Stefnee

nm Dec 25, 2000 08:39 PM


Originally posted by hlh0501
I know you can play cdr's in the bose system, and I am even getting away with the cheap green ones(won't work in a lot of stereos). Now my question is, can you use cdrw's? Most cd players won't let you, will the Bose in my '95se let me?
Some audio players support them (just like you don't need a writer to read CD-RW on your computer) but only the most recent ones and it would be marked on them as a feature. I extremely doubt that a 95 bose system would be able to play a cd-rw because I don't think they even existed in 95, I think they became availabe sometime in 97.

maximumsportZ Dec 25, 2000 09:09 PM

heh
there is no car out there that can read a CD-RW unless your system consist of a Computer CD-ROM...CD-RW are basically for data and backing up no audio out put what so ever. CD-R is the way to go for quality!

justmax Dec 25, 2000 10:14 PM


Originally posted by maximumsport
heh
there is no car out there that can read a CD-RW unless your system consist of a Computer CD-ROM...CD-RW are basically for data and backing up no audio out put what so ever. CD-R is the way to go for quality!

That's just not true maximumsport... CD-R's offer no increase in audio quality over CD-RW's. The data is the same, whether it's 44KHz/16-bit/Stereo audio files or porn .mpg's. If you burn an audio track on a CD-R and on a CD-RW, they will both sound *IDENTICAL*. The difference is that most audio CD players can't read CD-RW's because they're written differently (some space is used to allow deletion and addition of files), if your car CD player can read it, it will sound fine.

Justin

CKNY Dec 26, 2000 07:04 AM

CD-RW's won't work because most (all?) car stereo's look for a TOC (table of contents) at the beginning of the cd. The TOC only get's written when the CD is finalized, so that's why CD-R's have them and CD-RW's do not. If you're stuck with the CD-RW's and want to use them, most burning software will have an option to "finalize the disk" and that should put the TOC on it but at the same time you won't be able to re-write it.

Chris

hlh0501 Dec 26, 2000 07:06 AM


Originally posted by maximumsport
heh
there is no car out there that can read a CD-RW unless your system consist of a Computer CD-ROM...CD-RW are basically for data and backing up no audio out put what so ever. CD-R is the way to go for quality!

One other thing maximumsport, my stereo (not a computer) in my bedroom plays cdrw's perfect, so they are for audio output too, just so you know. It is very nice to be able to use cdrw's there, because I have a "my favorites" cd and just update it when I hear a new song I like.. wish I could do it in my max.

Klamath Dec 26, 2000 10:17 AM

The TOC isn't the issue of why certain CD players cannot read CD-RW discs, it's the reflective properties of the disc's pigment. It has a lower rate of reflection and requires a laser pickup with a far more sensitivity than most standard CD players. One can write a perfect redbook standard CD-Audio disc on a CD-RW disc, so the content of the disc is not an issue.

As for CD-RWs in the car, I have found that a number of aftermarket head units will play them with no problems, whatsoever. Pioneer, Aiwa, and quite a few of the newer Alpines go without a hitch, even if the disc has only a closed session rather than complete finalization. As for the Bose playing RWs, I highly doubt it. My Bose will occasionally choke on the cheapest of the cheap CDRs (generally the darker greens), so I cannot imagine it sucessfully reading the dull pigments of an RW disc.

theblue Dec 26, 2000 10:58 AM

to clean up this issue for once and all... some player wll take CD-RW and some won't most will require you to have a TOC for them to work. Its really random until somebody tries it, and even then it may be down to te way they burn it and what they burn it on. Nobody will ever win the argument about if they will or will not work. My opinion is that burnt correctly they will work perfectly.

BigHops99se Dec 26, 2000 03:38 PM

I have the Bose system in my 99 and it won't play RW's either. My only suggestion is to take your favorite cd's that are on RW's and just copy them to a regular cd-R disc. I had to do that a couple of times and they work just fine now.

Sonic Dec 26, 2000 06:56 PM

So then the final answer is no, CD-RWs will not work in the Bose CD player in the Max, but a properly formatted CD-R will. It's actually recommended by CD-RW manufactuers that ANY data that is to be shared between components or other computers be put on CD-R, because the reading/writing/TOC algorithm isn't/wasn't the same for all ReWritables.

THosie Dec 27, 2000 08:34 PM

Ya Ha...
 

Originally posted by maximumsport
heh
there is no car out there that can read a CD-RW unless your system consist of a Computer CD-ROM...CD-RW are basically for data and backing up no audio out put what so ever. CD-R is the way to go for quality!

No... Aiwa makes an aftermarket deck that reads MP3's on CDRW and CDRS as well as audio CDR's and CDRW's... http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...CDCMP3&o=M&a=0


theblue Dec 27, 2000 08:37 PM

Re: Ya Ha...
 

Originally posted by THosie

Originally posted by maximumsport
heh
there is no car out there that can read a CD-RW unless your system consist of a Computer CD-ROM...CD-RW are basically for data and backing up no audio out put what so ever. CD-R is the way to go for quality!

No... Aiwa makes an aftermarket deck that reads MP3's on CDRW and CDRS as well as audio CDR's and CDRW's... http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...CDCMP3&o=M&a=0


yeah, but we were talking about the CDRW in a stock system I have that AWIA system in my maxima >>
http://www.rit.edu/~aab8398/car/center-close-angle.jpg


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