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speedemn Jan 7, 2003 08:46 AM

A'Pexi SAFC II???
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1876596435

Any truth to this?

mzmtg Jan 7, 2003 08:50 AM

Yes, it's true, that is definitely an SAFC II

:rolleyes:

What's your point?

speedemn Jan 7, 2003 09:10 AM


Originally posted by mzmtg
Yes, it's true, that is definitely an SAFC II

:rolleyes:

What's your point?

haha you know... would that be better to get than the SAFC?

mzmtg Jan 7, 2003 09:15 AM

Unless you are boosted, either one would be a waste of $$.

WizzaMax Jan 7, 2003 09:26 AM


Originally posted by mzmtg
Unless you are boosted, either one would be a waste of $$.
No it is not...you would spend just as much money on gauges alone and not be able to ever make any changes ... best advice is, you can get a horse to do a pony's job, but you cannot get the pony to do a horse's job

it is a valuable monitoring device, NA or forced...

mzmtg Jan 7, 2003 09:34 AM


Originally posted by WizzaMax

it is a valuable monitoring device, NA or forced...

I didnt think about just using it as a monitor. But, there are much better ways to spend that $$ if you are just looking for power.

Jer Jan 7, 2003 10:47 AM

Well, what new features does it have? I don't read japanese!



Originally posted by mzmtg
Yes, it's true, that is definitely an SAFC II

:rolleyes:

What's your point?


MAXIN Jan 7, 2003 10:54 AM


Originally posted by Jer
Well, what new features does it have? I don't read japanese!



for starters....

The S-AFC II features a user-definable, 12-point ( 8 pt for SAFC), adjustable fuel curve that can be set in 200 RPM increments( 500 RPM increments for SAFC

Jer Jan 7, 2003 11:27 AM

Yeah, but aside from that (you can read that part in the table on the japanese site)?

I'm about to pick up the S-AFC.. if the S-AFC II has something noticeably niftier, I'll get that instead..


Originally posted by MAXIN


for starters....

The S-AFC II features a user-definable, 12-point ( 8 pt for SAFC), adjustable fuel curve that can be set in 200 RPM increments( 500 RPM increments for SAFC


Romeo Jan 7, 2003 12:35 PM


Originally posted by WizzaMax


No it is not...you would spend just as much money on gauges alone and not be able to ever make any changes ... best advice is, you can get a horse to do a pony's job, but you cannot get the pony to do a horse's job

it is a valuable monitoring device, NA or forced...

so would this be a suitable device in place of obtaining actual gauges in the case that someone is turboed/sc/nos?

Jer Jan 7, 2003 01:04 PM

It's useful, but by no means is it a replacement for the all gauges... well, who knows what it is in this case - the S-AFC is good, to a point - egt or af ratio, boost, fp would still be useful.

Dunno if the s-afc II does anything else or what else it taps into, I do not read japanese (and I guess nobody else here does either :D)


Originally posted by Romeo


so would this be a suitable device in place of obtaining actual gauges in the case that someone is turboed/sc/nos?


WizzaMax Jan 7, 2003 01:43 PM

My S-AFC read throttle position in percentage and analog, rpms in analog and numerically, afr under ALL conditions, and any applied corrections, can do peak hold and replay for diagnosis/tuning ...nothing different I am guessing from the new one but we'll see soon enough...no replacement for Boost Gauge, Oil/Fuel Pressure or EGT gauges on this but is good for overall monitoring of many things performance oriented NA drivers would be concerned with...

speedemn Jan 7, 2003 02:43 PM


Originally posted by Jer
Well, what new features does it have? I don't read japanese!

The e-bay link that I posted with sufficient info. on this product does not look like Japanese to me. I can understand it and I thought that the ebay auction was in english. Correct me if I'm wrong. :laugh:

Jer Jan 7, 2003 08:20 PM

You seem to have problems understanding.

All that link indicates is the 200rpm / extra points where you can adjust the mixture.

Please grace us with your higher intelligence and post more information, otherwise you may sit on it and rotate :)


Originally posted by speedemn


The e-bay link that I posted with sufficient info. on this product does not look like Japanese to me. I can understand it and I thought that the ebay auction was in english. Correct me if I'm wrong. :laugh:


speedemn Jan 7, 2003 09:18 PM


Originally posted by Jer
You seem to have problems understanding.

All that link indicates is the 200rpm / extra points where you can adjust the mixture.

Please grace us with your higher intelligence and post more information, otherwise you may sit on it and rotate :)

Doesn't everyone speak Japanese?

I was just goofing around... I didn't look at the website.

The auction however did mention more than just 200RPM (vs 500RPM) increments. In any case, the SAFC will probably drop in price big time when the SAFC II comes to the US. Unless you have the cash I don't think the SAFC II is anything special, especially for an NA car... the SAFC would be sufficient.

Jer Jan 7, 2003 09:31 PM

I'm hoping it does other cool stuff, but the company site has the info in .jpg format and won't go through a translator :(

I should get a japanese girlfriend instead of Palmela! :mad:


Originally posted by speedemn


Doesn't everyone speak Japanese?

I was just goofing around... I didn't look at the website.

The auction however did mention more than just 200RPM (vs 500RPM) increments. In any case, the SAFC will probably drop in price big time when the SAFC II comes to the US. Unless you have the cash I don't think the SAFC II is anything special, especially for an NA car... the SAFC would be sufficient.


96shogunmax Jan 9, 2003 12:53 PM

Soon to find out my friends.....;)

Jer Jan 10, 2003 05:29 AM

Ok, looks like I found out :

http://www.takakaira.com/asp/template.asp?id=815&cat=2

It has a knock sensor display w0000000000!

MAXIN Jan 10, 2003 08:44 AM


Originally posted by Jer
Ok, looks like I found out :

http://www.takakaira.com/asp/template.asp?id=815&cat=2

It has a knock sensor display w0000000000!

good find :thumbsup:

speedemn Jan 10, 2003 08:46 AM


Originally posted by Jer
Ok, looks like I found out :

http://www.takakaira.com/asp/template.asp?id=815&cat=2

It has a knock sensor display w0000000000!

Nice job Jer! This is even cheaper than the ebay auction ($10)


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