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maddingo Jan 9, 2003 07:20 PM

My Max won't start... why?
 
When I tried to start my car this morning, all the engine did was turn but didn't kick over. I added gas thinking I didn't have enough gas, but that wasn't it. The battery is still good and the connections to it are fine. What else can be the problem?

95 Max GLE

Sprint Jan 9, 2003 07:22 PM

starter might be dead?

if your lights work then yoru starter is dead

CorvetteKid Jan 9, 2003 07:23 PM

Re: My Max won't start... why?
 

Originally posted by maddingo
When I tried to start my car this morning, all the engine did was turn but didn't kick over. I added gas thinking I didn't have enough gas, but that wasn't it. The battery is still good and the connections to it are fine. What else can be the problem?

95 Max GLE

I just repalced my starter on my 97, and the guy said that he is selling about 10 a week...i would check it out if i was you...just put your finger on it and have someone start it, you will feel the rest...good luck

maddingo Jan 9, 2003 07:26 PM

Re: Re: My Max won't start... why?
 

Originally posted by CorvetteKid


I just repalced my starter on my 97, and the guy said that he is selling about 10 a week...i would check it out if i was you...just put your finger on it and have someone start it, you will feel the rest...good luck



So you guys thing its the starter?? Can it be the fuel pump or anything of that sort? How much would it cost to replace a starter at the shop?

Miasma Jan 9, 2003 07:41 PM

the car is turning over, but not starting? its not the starter.

Conrad283 Jan 9, 2003 08:09 PM


Originally posted by Miasma
the car is turning over, but not starting? its not the starter.
alternator

maddingo Jan 9, 2003 09:32 PM


Originally posted by Conrad283


alternator

Alternator is less than 1 yr old.. replaced last summer. Power to the car is good.. I can use radio, lights are fine. Any other suggestions? Engine keeps turning but won't start.

Lost_N_a_97Max Jan 9, 2003 11:20 PM

It's in park right?

njmaxseltd Jan 10, 2003 05:43 AM

You either have a fuel issue or one of your crank/cam sensors is dead.

The car cranks well, but doesn't start.

That rules out the battery, alternator, and starter.

He's got juice, but he's missing either a spark or gas.

Check the fuel pump fuse.
Check your ECU for codes.

maddingo Jan 10, 2003 09:52 AM

The car is in park.

Checked the fuse.. its good.

I added a extra gallon of gas.

Still won't start. Just cranks on and on. The first time it happened yesterday, the car I think started and just immediately stalled. Does that help the diagnosis. Any other ideas before I get it towed to the shop?

Lost_N_a_97Max Jan 10, 2003 10:43 AM

spark plugs? I dunno.

njmaxseltd Jan 10, 2003 11:55 AM


Originally posted by maddingo
The first time it happened yesterday, the car I think started and just immediately stalled.

Does that help the diagnosis.

My money is on the crank sensor. There's 2 of them so be careful. Did you check the ECU for codes? :gotme: Please do this now if you haven't already.

maddingo Jan 10, 2003 02:15 PM


Originally posted by njmaxseltd


My money is on the crank sensor. There's 2 of them so be careful. Did you check the ECU for codes? :gotme: Please do this now if you haven't already.


I didn't check for the ECU codes yet. I was wondering, if the check engine light isn't on, would I still get a code or nothing will happen?

FLO_BOY Jan 10, 2003 05:32 PM


Originally posted by maddingo



I didn't check for the ECU codes yet. I was wondering, if the check engine light isn't on, would I still get a code or nothing will happen?

you can have codes even with the light off...it's weird, I know...
and I don't know why it happens, but it does.

FLO_BOY

jmax Jan 10, 2003 05:59 PM

Okay, I have a similatproblem with my '99 SEL, 94,000 miles. I ran teh self diagnostics last night and then cleared the codes. Afterwards I attempted to start the car. Started attempts to spin but it seems to be locked up. Engine won't crank at all. Car ran fine before the self test. The codes on the PCM revealed a O2 sensor error, 0512 and a 0701, multiple cylinder misfire. I can't see why the car ran fine before the test but won't start now. Also can't seem to find any info on the "multiple cylinder misfire" cure. Regardless I will check my crank sensors, as I have replaced the alternator belt many times and could have knocked one loose.

SuperFishstick Jan 10, 2003 07:10 PM

check your plugs/coils ie. the electrical stuff. If its cranking and not starting, then either no spark or no fuel, or both.

jmax Jan 10, 2003 08:13 PM

I'm thinking fuel pump right now. Anyone know where the bleeder valve is to find out for sure if fuel is making it to the fuel rail? My preliminary test of lifting the rear seat and listening turned up negative, no sound. But it could still just be a bad relay or other electrical problem. My fuel pump fuse was good last night when the problem first came up.

njmaxseltd Jan 11, 2003 06:07 AM


Originally posted by jmax
I attempted to start the car. Started attempts to spin but it seems to be locked up. Engine won't crank at all.
Your starter is bad.

jmax Jan 11, 2003 07:00 AM


Originally posted by njmaxseltd

Your starter is bad.

No, it is not a bad starter. The starter does not spin if it is bad. unless the teeth are worn down. It felt as though the engine was not cranking, but it actually was. I am so used to the rumble and purr of my greddy and catmann SS-Y that I did not realize it was cranking. A friend who is a good mechanic came over and verified that it was cranking. It's hard to tell from the drivers seat.

To make a long story a bit shorter the car was flooded. I haven't had a car flood since the late 80's or early 90's. Didn't even know it was possible with fuel injection. I was about to go out and check all my sensors and pull the fuel pump out but called the dealership first. He asked me one question, "The last time you drove the car, did you just drive it down the driveway and then shut it off?". The answer was yes. Apparently when the max is in the warm up stage it is pumping enough fuel to flood if you shut it off. I guess that is why I didn't hear the fuel pump. The line was already charged.

douglas Jan 11, 2003 08:25 AM

My maxima has similar problem..won't start properly every morning unless i give some gas....my dealer has o2 sensors, air flow meter replaced ..it is still not fixed....I am not sure what is the problem .....I need to bring my car back to dealer next week and hopefully they can find out the problem???

jmax Jan 11, 2003 08:46 AM


Originally posted by douglas
My maxima has similar problem..won't start properly every morning unless i give some gas....my dealer has o2 sensors, air flow meter replaced ..it is still not fixed....I am not sure what is the problem .....I need to bring my car back to dealer next week and hopefully they can find out the problem???
Have you used injector cleaner in the past 15,000 miles? Or replaced the fuel filter? Total for both of these is less than $20.

douglas Jan 11, 2003 08:52 AM


Originally posted by jmax


Have you used injector cleaner in the past 15,000 miles? Or replaced the fuel filter? Total for both of these is less than $20.

Yes I did. :bawling:

jmax Jan 11, 2003 09:26 AM

I hate to tell you this but it really sounds like the Mass Airflow Sensor. They are not cheap. But the dealer should discount it by the amount you have already paid for items you did not need.


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