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Starters and sticky grease don't mix
I previosly posted about my 'no cranking' trouble but
thought a new thread was in order. I believe I have solved my no cranking trouble. The cause appears to have been grease that has turned sticky. This has also been reported to be the cause of the starter squeeling among other starter problems. The stickyness could account for the pinion not moving from the rest position or for not releasing soon enough from the flywheel gear. The pinion gear has a long sleeve bushing that slides on a shaft. The contact area is large and therefore most suseptable to problems from sticky grease. I concur with a poster who stated he felt that most starter problems stem from the degraded grease issue and that many starter/solenoid replacements are unnecessary. So, if your starter is giving you trouble, it may be worthwhile to check out the grease issue before replacing stuff. Here is an account of the fix. I took out my starter yesterday as I suspected that the solenoid was not working when I had the 'no cranking' episodes. Removed intake pieces and battery to allow reasonable access. The 17mm bolt was tight so I moved a couple of wiring harness connectors out of the way to avoid damaging them when pulling hard on the breaker bar. Removed the starter and noticed a black sticky substance that has been weeping from the little slot in the lower side of the starter housing. I took the starter and solenoid completely apart and noted that the original grease had turned into a sticky black mess that was gumming up the parts. I also found that the design of the starter/solenoid mechanism causes the solenoid plunger to be connected to the starter pinion gear and to move with it. This means that any restriction in the pinion movement will also impede the movement of the solenoid plunger. This all means that if the pinion gear is hanging up on it's shaft due to degraded grease, then the solenoid plunger will also be hung up and fail to make the electrical connection to the starter windings. I cleaned, greased and assembled the starter and reinstalled in the car. Starting is fine now and I expect it to remain that way for a while. |
Re: Starters and sticky grease don't mix
Originally posted by PedalKick I previosly posted about my 'no cranking' trouble but thought a new thread was in order. I believe I have solved my no cranking trouble. The cause appears to have been grease that has turned sticky. This has also been reported to be the cause of the starter squeeling among other starter problems. The stickyness could account for the pinion not moving from the rest position or for not releasing soon enough from the flywheel gear. The pinion gear has a long sleeve bushing that slides on a shaft. The contact area is large and therefore most suseptable to problems from sticky grease. I concur with a poster who stated he felt that most starter problems stem from the degraded grease issue and that many starter/solenoid replacements are unnecessary. So, if your starter is giving you trouble, it may be worthwhile to check out the grease issue before replacing stuff. Here is an account of the fix. I took out my starter yesterday as I suspected that the solenoid was not working when I had the 'no cranking' episodes. Removed intake pieces and battery to allow reasonable access. The 17mm bolt was tight so I moved a couple of wiring harness connectors out of the way to avoid damaging them when pulling hard on the breaker bar. Removed the starter and noticed a black sticky substance that has been weeping from the little slot in the lower side of the starter housing. I took the starter and solenoid completely apart and noted that the original grease had turned into a sticky black mess that was gumming up the parts. I also found that the design of the starter/solenoid mechanism causes the solenoid plunger to be connected to the starter pinion gear and to move with it. This means that any restriction in the pinion movement will also impede the movement of the solenoid plunger. This all means that if the pinion gear is hanging up on it's shaft due to degraded grease, then the solenoid plunger will also be hung up and fail to make the electrical connection to the starter windings. I cleaned, greased and assembled the starter and reinstalled in the car. Starting is fine now and I expect it to remain that way for a while. |
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