BRIGBOY

Simple as that right Any problems with this?

How about the 95 trans too, direct bolt on? Or would a 2K1 be needed?


Those that are swappers....any help is much love.
If you check ebay you can see what I'm contemplating...

RichMax

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Ummm.. no. There are posts that will verify for you that the engine will not fit in a 4th generation maxima. The newer trannys MIGHT. Sorry about the bad news

vsamoylov

what, who are you kidding man. I did it in my garage with my own brother.

2k or 2k1 motor will fit, 4th gen intake manifold needed, and you can use 2k or 2k1 tranny but will have to swap some parts from your old one cause 5th gen tranny has more teeth on the torque convertor so you would use 4th gen torwue convertor. Y-pipe is needed off a 2k or 2k1 max and you will have to put a different thermosta and rewire some things and add more hoses.

krismax

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Rewire what ?and put hoses where? Boy i wish you could give more info please or pics im thinking of doing this. And doesnt the 2000-01 have different cams?

vsamoylov

hoses will be different for the new thermostat. thermostat is in a different location in 5th gen than 4th gen. Cmas are also different in the 2k motor.

talk to my bro at maxzimin@att.net or msamoylov@yahoo.com but he will say it is not worth it but i think it is.

vsamoylov

hoses will be different for the new thermostat. thermostat is in a different location in 5th gen than 4th gen. Cams are also different in the 2k motor.

talk to my bro at maxzimin@att.net or msamoylov@yahoo.com but he will say it is not worth it but i think it is.

d_warner

Here we go again. The whole 2k1 motor in a 4th gen thread. I am still a firm believer that if you can overcome the wiring and vacuum issues, then it will fit with extremely minor rubbing on the fire sield of the hood. I have a 5th gen strut bar on my fourth gen. It was designed to clear the 5th gen manifold, so why wouldn't it work. Yeah. The strut bar rubs very slightly, but it still fits. So the 5th gen manifold should fit under the bar. Pretty simple.

vsamoylov

yeah, but there are other problems with the 5th gen intake manifolds that i did not want to run into but wil try it one day. manifold sits in my garage anyway.

nismology

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How would you actuate the 5th gen VI even if you did get it to fit??

hakk97se

Someone should diagnose the 5th gen ecu signals for the VI if they havent already, but the basic answer is you can't do it without the ECU. The truth is, if you can replicate the signals, you might be able to do with with an RPM switch and a relay or something.

BRIGBOY

Ya but I love the simplicity of the 95, even workin on a 96 ticks me off with the extra crap and electrical harnesses and vacuuum bull. And rubbing the hood liner is not the issue.

Therefore no 2K1 intake manifold - 95 is only way to go IMO. Maybe MEVI down the road but thats later.

Why would I have to move the thermostat if re-using the 95 ECU? And any extra vacuum fittings would get cut off the block and welded shut if necessary, such as who knows what, maybe an EGR port or something....

Cams go Adios for JWT anyway

So then the trans would be the only real obstacle huh. Torque converter......4th gen needed for TCM harmony due to teeth differences, and slim chance of 95 ECU and 2K1 TCM mating properly?

infinitiblast

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Its not that you have to move the thermostat.......and really the ecu has no control over the location of the thermostat on the engine. Its in a different location on the 2k1 motor is what they are saying.

I say try to get the 2k1 intake working.....

BRIGBOY

Ok I folllow ya, I imagine the wires from the thermostat or its harness go to the ECU so I would have to re-route them thats all, or plug up the 2K1 thermostat opening and utilize 95 style set-up.

I could make 2K1 intake set-up work no prob if I use 2K1 harness and ECU....right. But grrrrrr I don't like it I'd rather have MEVI....and 95 has least amount of Bulla**** programmed in there. And can be remapped by most places easier.

Hrrrmmmmm.....Do 5spds have torque convertors

Torgus

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my question is why? the time and money spent can't possibly be worth the gains. with all the cash your going to spend on the motor and getting it all to work why not just do up your 4th gen...why would you want to do this?

vsamoylov

yep, thats exactly what i was trying to sya.

I will try to put the intake manifld from 2k on my car with my bro sometime(don't know when) but he says that a mevi is the easier way to go but we could do it but we would have to use some 4th gen parts still.

vsamoylov

We had alot of time and money was not involved cause we had 2 cars that where 2k and 2k2. 2k engine did not run in the 2k max cause of the ecu so my bro swapped the 2k2 engine into the 2k max and gave me the 2k engine.

And there are a lot of differences in the 5th and 4th gen engines. For example, cams are different. Plus when I put the 5th gen intake manifold on it, i will be running a 220 horspower engine in a 4th gen body which is lighter than a 5th gen body. Plus now all my engine mods will be done on a 5th gen engine so instead of starting to mod a max with 190 hoses, i will start to mod a max with 22o horses.