What's fast? Primarily for N/A folks.
 

Every since I been reading on the ORG I hear a lot of talk about the Maxima being a fast car. For me going from a 97 Mitsubishi Mirage to 98 Max, yeah the Max is pretty quick, but fast? Sure there are a couple N/A guys running into the 13s, but for the most part 14s and 15s seem to be the norm. So how do you think your Max's are holding up against other cars, i.e. VWs 1.8ts, WRXs, Mustang GTs and your favorites the Hondas. Cause every time I read "Yeah, I smoked a (insert car) last night", it's typically against some ricer with loud exhaust and no real power mods and the Max has most of the available N/A mods. So what do guys consider fast?

low 14's and under is fast for a N/A max since only a handful are at that point.

1.8t Please
 

1.8t of any sort, Jetta, Passat, Golf, GTI... The Max will eat them alive.... At least .5 seconds in the quarter...

for NA application >> mid14s or lower is fast for autos. low 14s for 5spd is fast.

What do you consider fast? you went from a 113 HP I4 car to a 98 maxima, it should seem fast to you for sure. You can also make it faster easily.

dumb question --- what do you guys mean when you say N/A?

N/A = Naturally Aspirated (no turbos, nitrous, etc, superchargers)

I'd say anything under 14.5 in the 1/4 is pretty darn fast for a max with bolts ons.

What are your sources. My friend has a bone stock 5spd 1.8t GTI and is running 9.5s in the 1/8 which is high 14, low 15s in the 1/4.

HOw did you know I had the 113hp one. The base model had 108. But that's precisely my point. It feels fast in comparison to that car, but I've driven a 88 fox body 302 powered LX with pretty much every N/A mod you could imagine, THAT'S fast!

As far as "fast" is concerned, wouldn't it be more appropriate to associate that with top speed as opposed to quarter mile times? I'm not sure what guys here have gotten their Max up to as far as top speed goes but more or less, with the bolt-ons on an otherwise all motor Max, I agree with the rest of the other guys; mid 14's and below is quick although a lot of the members here typically like to aim for the low 14's..

I assumed you had the better engine because of your max not being fast. See to me a maxima is very fast, it's faster then all of my friends cars and much faster than the buick I had before this. I love it!

Literally you are right and I've seen my speedo well past 130 but that's not something I'd want to do a lot of. So quick might be the appropriate term, yet the 1/4 times are just solid number to base fastness upon. Who wants a car that runs 17s in the 1/4 but has a top speed of 170?

[QUOTE=Bonka]As far as "fast" is concerned, wouldn't it be more appropriate to associate that with top speed as opposed to quarter mile times? QUOTE]

No it wouldnt matter what you're top speed is because if the other guy can get to 100 faster than you, it doesnt matter what your top speed may be.

Also fast is a matter of opinion, I know a lot of local guys who consider 12's to be slow in the 1/4...so it all depends on what you are comparing it to. I think my max is slow, but my friends think it's fast, since their cars have nothing done to them. It's all what you think is fast when it comes down to everything.

Well I would'nt consider our cars slow since they are a damn good race for rsx, with intake exaust versus my y pipe. And I have beaten my friends 01 1.8t gti with just a short ram intake multiple times. I have videos of it. Oh and by the way is there any way to put a tape into digital on the comp??? Maxima's are definetly not slow cars. If your not happy with low fourteens' 4700 dollars from customaxima will get you a turbo kit. And there won't be much that can touch you then. :king:

Yeah I wouldn't call our maximas all out fast, but maybe 'relatively quick'. Stock for stock the 5 speed Max seems to edge out cars in its class and run even with most of the 'sports' cars under $25K today. Pretty respectable performance with more class for less $$, especially since we're talking almost a decade since the 4th gen came out.

To me it seems that anyone with a Civic SI thinks their car is fast when it is not. Besides beating them, I have beaten a Mustang GT 1995 stick, and my brothers 5-speed GTI VR6 off the line...he now has the 6-speed 24V GTI for about a week now and when the snow melts in Chicago, I guess we'll see. That might favor him now. I have beaten the 94-96 Chevy Impala, and I even raced another one on I-65 all the way to 143 mph. The 143 mph run was dead even acceleration. I nosed out a Grand Prix GTP off the line, tore up a 2001 Monte Carlo SS off the line and later from 45-110, and a 97 style Eclispe GSX. This is probably why this past summer I got a ticket clocked at 128 mph! Not fun. But oh well, time for a good radar detector!

Everyone says the Impala, GTI, Mustang GT, and the rest of the above are fast cars, so if I am beating them, then I think the Maxima is a fast car too. It's not the fastest, but when you have a 190hp V6 beating up on cars that have more horsepower, and in some cases a V8, then it says a lot about the Maxima. Besides, how many $27,000 4-door sedans out there are beating these cars with 190 hp, or even hitting 14.8-15.1 in the 1/4 while topping out at 143 mph with over 30 mpg hwy at 70 mph cruise reliably :mardi: ?

must say, well said.

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d*mn dude how much was that ticket??

But yeah 205tq does get you pretty far on our 3000lb cars, more than people expect.

Did you know that the 1.8ts went from 150hp to 180hp in 2002. So the videos of you beating a 150hp git are'nt necessary. As far as not being happy with low 14s most of us won,t see that N/A. If I'm wrong somebody inform me.

Do you have any performance mods?

Well, I actually got away without paying a fine, no suspension, and luckily the cop did not arrest me. He let me go after writing up the tickets. Everything was dropped, except reckless driving....but...a lawyer was $1500. I also got 25 days of SWAP (Sherrif's Work Alternative Program), it's a type of community service and 2 years of probation. If I complete it all, it will be dropped like it never happened after 2 years. The SWAP and probation cost me $900, so $2400 total. That is why I can't get a SC right now. :slap:

To answer the other question, I am a 5-speed Max stock with a Stillen cone intake. Of all the above cars, the GTP is the toughest to race because unless I get a perfect launch, forget it. They are fast, but we are faster :grinno:
Even the times on all car mags have our cars listed quicker.

maybe he's just that good of a driver... or he has a 150 shot of nos he doesn't want to mention to us.

i think high 13's would be a very comfortable place for me. asking how fast, i dunno. there is so much competition. every car you can whip, theres five more than can trash you at the track. A max in the mid to low 14's can hold its own up against many of the imports.

Watch out for chipped VW 1.8T's, they're not nearly as slow as people on the org make them out to be. The Maxima to me is definately not a 'fast' car, it can be made to be a 'quick' car, but not fast. Fast to me is low 13's or under and the only people able to hit that range are people running 100+shots of nitrous or insane amounts of boost. For a sport sedan it's fast, but not fast when you compare it to some cars out there, mainly cars in different leagues. To me and others though it's one of the best bang for the buck cars when it comes to looks, performance, reliability, practicality and price.

LEMAR

This is fast: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=282649

14.2 in a auto and now he's got a 5-speed.

To me, a Maxima pulling mid to low 14s is pretty dang fast for a NA V6 sedan. Nearly every time I go to the track, I'm both the quickest 4-door and usually in the top three of the quickest imports.

I owned a lower 13-second Z28 prior to the Maxima and I can tell you that getting respect with a V8 muscle/sports car is nearly impossible. EVERYONE expects you do be fast and if you're not running at least 12s, it's "oh yah, another 13-14 second F-Body". Even though my Maxipad is significantly slower than my Z28 was, I get a ton more respect and people get a kick out watching me hang with or beat some 99+ GTs or outreact or out 60' an LS1 driver at the line and smoke them to 1/8 mile only to get beat by 3 cars in the far end. Running fairly consistent 14.4-14.5s at my track puts me in the league (13-14 second) of what most people consider pretty quick street cars. Sure, there are plenty of 9 to 12 second rides that show up to my track, but 90% of them are trailored in. If I was willing to give some driveability and reliability and probably trailor my car in, I'd invest about 6 grand in a 300fwhp turbo kit with a 50hp nitrous shot plus a set slicks with skinnies in the rear. There's no doubt this setup would do low 12s and would turn far more heads than some Buick Grand National.

Fast is all relative.


Dave

I had similar experiences with the LS1s and Mustang GTs. In the last two weeks I out drove a WS6 and beat two Stangs (we have a 1/8 mile track). As far as at the track I go to sedans, mostly F/I ones, are pretty fast Jetta 1.8t=9.4 WRXs=8.9, GTPs=9.0, and SRT-4s=8.6. The N/A imports are'nt slouches either with various integras and civics (with interior) running 8.9-9.1. I guess you are right in the whole speed is relative statement, I'm just tired of hearing people here brag how fast they are and most are'nt even fast as you are.

Two more things have you dynoed or run at the track since your ECU upgrade and did you call your Maxima a Maxipad :nono: .