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MaxedOutOfCash 04-21-2004 06:33 AM

Do you lose power if the O2 sensors are bad?
 
I know that you lose a great amount of power if the KS is bad but my O2 sensors are bad...Am I losing power or no?

Thanks,
Sam

Maximum96 04-21-2004 06:35 AM

i would like to know that also...I heard, but i am not sure, that the 2 on the ypipe relate to performance, but the last one is only for emmissions. Anyone else have better input on this??

DAVE Sz 04-21-2004 06:56 AM

Yes you do. Your car will try to compensate and run richer/leaner. Replace them as soon as you can.

sk24iam 04-21-2004 10:47 AM

How do you know if they're bad?

95MaxSE 04-21-2004 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by MaxedOutOfCash
I know that you lose a great amount of power if the KS is bad but my O2 sensors are bad...Am I losing power or no?

Thanks,
Sam

There are 3 02 sensors on the Max. The one behind the catalytic converter has NOTHING to do with the vehicle power.

The other two are used by the computer to regulate fuel/air mixture, so potentially can cause lost of power.

Sam

boyzindahood978 04-21-2004 11:17 AM

Will a bad O2 sensor trip a check engine light or is it a ghost code like the knock sensor?

95MaxSE 04-21-2004 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by boyzindahood978
Will a bad O2 sensor trip a check engine light or is it a ghost code like the knock sensor?

Any/all bad O2 sensors will trip the check engine light.

Sam

happyricefob 04-21-2004 11:29 AM

my O2 sensor near my rear header popped out from my warpspeed y-pipe yesterday. i think when i installed it i didn't tightened it all the way. anyway i lost some gas mileage and my shifting was not smooth at all.

anyway after i tighten it, everything is back to normal. so therefore yes.

jmeister 04-21-2004 11:36 AM

I've been wondering the same thing myself. Every now and then I pull a 0702 CEL but I just reset the ECU and it's fine for a while. Changed the spark plugs this past weekend and noticed that the plugs showed signs of the engine running lean. Also when driving normally or semi-aggressive the engine seems to have a hesitation to it. No loss in RPMs or stutter but not a smooth feeling as I accelerate. I ran some BG44K fuel injector cleaner through it before I changed the plugs and haven't noticed any difference in the way it accelerates.

sagamax 04-21-2004 01:58 PM

the one i had behind the cat was bad and i didnt change it for like 5 months. i didnt experience any loos of power. just had the cel light on. im not sure about the other o2 sensors

maximka 04-21-2004 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by boyzindahood978
Will a bad O2 sensor trip a check engine light or is it a ghost code like the knock sensor?


how do you know that knock sensor is gone bad?

CullenJ76 04-21-2004 04:22 PM

o2 sensors will only affect performance when you are at partial throttle. When you are at partial throttle the ECU is in closed-loop. The ECU relies on the o2 sensors to adjust A/F ratio in closed-loop. When you are at WOT o2 sensors WILL NOT affect performance because the ECU goes into open-loop. The ECU relies on a programmed setting for air/fuel and timing(MAP) when it is in open-loop and the A/F will not change.

jmeister 04-21-2004 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by CullenJ76
The ECU relies on the o2 sensors to adjust A/F ratio in closed-loop. When you are at WOT o2 sensors WILL NOT affect performance because the ECU goes into open-loop. The ECU relies on a programmed setting for air/fuel and timing(MAP) when it is in open-loop and the A/F will not change.


So would this truely be a bad or failing o2 sensor or a downside to WOT performance mods when you're not at WOT? Or is it better to re-map the mixture with an AFC or reprogrammed ECU?

I30tMikeD 04-21-2004 07:02 PM

Ask Neal. He runs 13's all motor on street tires with bad 02 sensors.

DAVE Sz 04-21-2004 07:11 PM

Yeah but Neal could run a 13 in reverse or on 3 wheels.


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