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soulrupture Jul 12, 2004 04:47 PM

Y-pipe but don't feel gains
 
Well I had Dan at Maximumtuning put in my buget y pipe on Thursday and with the exception of a more agressive tone at idle and WOT I don't feel any gains.

I'm I missing something? All responses welcome

P.S.
I still have not reset the ecu b/c I didn't get a cel after install.

I have a Stage 2 valve body autoMAGIC :grinno:
Stock exshust

Bobo Jul 12, 2004 04:56 PM

You'll have to excuse me but what is a Stage 2 valve body autoMAGIC?

You say you have stock exhaust. Does that mean completely stock?
I installed a K&N panel air filter about two months ago, then a Budget Y-pipe a month ago. In combination, I can certainly feel a difference. If you have no plans on getting a CAI or other kind of intake apparatus, I would strongly suggest you get a K&N panel air filter so you get more air into the Y-pipe and through the exhaust system.




Originally Posted by soulrupture
Well I had Dan at Maximumtuning put in my buget y pipe on Thursday and with the exception of a more agressive tone at idle and WOT I don't feel any gains.

I'm I missing something? All responses welcome

P.S.
I still have not reset the ecu b/c I didn't get a cel after install.

I have a Stage 2 valve body autoMAGIC :grinno:
Stock exshust


Bobo Jul 12, 2004 04:57 PM

I didn't have to reset my ECU after the Budget Y-pipe was installed. Also no CEL.

Taken2DaMax Jul 12, 2004 05:00 PM

wierd...i felt it as soon as i punched it out of the garage.

You're not the only one with these ghost performance problems there are others. I just tell them let the car get use to the y-pipe first. Give it a week or so.

maxima98vspec Jul 12, 2004 05:11 PM

yea won't feel much, the only way i can tell is if i go and race other maximas and comparing that is how i know it works...

DAVE Sz Jul 12, 2004 05:15 PM

Oh jeez. You won't get a CEL after installing a Ypipe? Why would you unless you broke some sensor or your O2 sensors go out on you? You reset the ECU so it RESETS, adjusts faster to the new mod(not sure it actually does that?. A y-pipe is a mod you feel after 3500rpm, not earlier.

soulrupture Jul 12, 2004 06:05 PM

rmurdoch:
Everything is stock with the exception of the y-pipe.
Stage 2 (street/strip Valve body)
Automagic is an automatic tranny.(Term of endearment)
I'll look into the K&N panel air filter. Sounds like a good replacement


takentomax:
I hope I'm not one those "ghost" It's been 4 days, another 3 to go.

Big D :
I have pushed the car passed 3500rpm. Since I got the pipe. Today I raced my friend in his z3 2.5 manual and did no better then when I raced him with my stock pipe.
I just don't notice or feel the gains. I would hate to think I'm not getting my money's worth.

P.S. Thanks for the reponses

dmBK Jul 12, 2004 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by soulrupture
rmurdoch: Everything is stock with the exception of the y-pipe.
Stage 2 (street/strip Valve body)
Automagic is an automatic tranny.(Term of endearment)
I'll look into the K&N panel air filter. Sounds like a good replacement

Big D :
I have pushed the car passed 3500rpm. Since I got the pipe. Today I raced my friend in his z3 2.5 manual and did no better then when I raced him with my stock pipe.
I just don't notice or feel the gains. I would hate to think I'm not getting my money's worth.

P.S. Thanks for the reponses

i felt my Y on the way home on the highway. i think the car was revving much easier past 3,000RPM.

Kolyan Jul 12, 2004 06:12 PM

i feel no gains also (maybe it's just me). i don't have any other mods, and i doubt the air filter will help. might be a cloged cat., but this rearly happens.

soulrupture Jul 12, 2004 06:14 PM

Kolyan:
I guess we are just part of the y-pipe = no gains club :(

liqidvenom Jul 12, 2004 08:26 PM

how do u lose to a z3 2.5? did u gve him a head start or a autos that much slower then manuals?

THT Jul 12, 2004 08:32 PM

Autos are significantly slower than 5spds. That's why they're autoTRAGICs

~THT

BlueC Jul 12, 2004 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by THT
Autos are significantly slower than 5spds. That's why they're autoTRAGICs

~THT

You'd be suprised..... :)

My AutoMAGIC took a RSX type-s (6spd) till 80mph a few months ago. Thats with a ****ty launch for both cars.

Dont underestimate the Auto. :grinno:

NYC_Maxima97 Jul 12, 2004 09:10 PM

I have auto, but i did feel the difference of the y pipe right away. I do also have a catback and air intake which certainly help but the y pipe gave the most noticable gain to me.

deezo Jul 13, 2004 04:11 AM

My car hauls with the y. VI goes back on in a couple of weeks. :)

MaxedOutOfCash Jul 13, 2004 04:14 AM

i had the same problem. . . I got the y-pipe installed and said to myself "what the heck are they so excited about? I don't feel anything" . . UNTIL... I changed my knock sensor 4 months later. . .
I got on the highway & within seconds I had a huge smile on my face . . .
check your knock sensor , might be bad.

FutureProof Jul 13, 2004 04:34 AM

Pardon me for stating the obvious...
 
But without the extra air flow of a CAI, or short-ram or whatever, the air-flow into the engine isn't increased, sure the Y is expelling more gases, but you need the intake to really make the most of that...

Try a drop-in K&N or even changing your intake setup... Might help

NmexMAX Jul 13, 2004 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by MaxedOutOfCash
i had the same problem. . . I got the y-pipe installed and said to myself "what the heck are they so excited about? I don't feel anything" . . UNTIL... I changed my knock sensor 4 months later. . .
I got on the highway & within seconds I had a huge smile on my face . . .
check your knock sensor , might be bad.


:thumbsup: .

I30tMikeD Jul 13, 2004 05:48 AM

Gains are there, whether you feel them or not.

soulrupture Jul 21, 2004 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by MaxedOutOfCash
i had the same problem. . . I got the y-pipe installed and said to myself "what the heck are they so excited about? I don't feel anything" . . UNTIL... I changed my knock sensor 4 months later. . .
I got on the highway & within seconds I had a huge smile on my face . . .
check your knock sensor , might be bad.


I just replaced the knock sensor about 2-3 months ago. I guess it's like "I30tMikeD " said the gains are there I just don't feel it :(
I do like the sound though i really want a cat back now

ogparjay Jul 21, 2004 12:18 PM

probably expecting too much from the mod, the hp gain is there, change your sensors and intake. you should feel the difference.

happyricefob Jul 21, 2004 12:30 PM

http://www.motorvate.ca/auto/maxima/...comp_ro_hp.jpg

u will feel the gains above 3,500rpm, and definetly around 4.5k-6.0k.

so redline your car more until you feel it, or take it to the dyno.

Max Noob Jul 21, 2004 02:25 PM

what happyrice fob said..

soulrupture Jul 21, 2004 05:54 PM

Will do then.
Thanks for the imput

ABK Jul 21, 2004 06:08 PM

believe me there is a huge difference. I got rapped I mean rapped even after head start by a max with intake and y-pipe against me all stock. 3rd gear car wakes up like nothing else, just pulls like it's maddddd.

Jatan Jul 21, 2004 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by ABK
believe me there is a huge difference. I got rapped I mean rapped even after head start by a max with intake and y-pipe against me all stock. 3rd gear car wakes up like nothing else, just pulls like it's maddddd.

http://www.jatan.net/smokege.mpg :D Some of Xmax's info is wrong on there.


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