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FutureProof Aug 19, 2004 10:16 AM

Intake idea, don't think this has been done...
 
What do you guys think of this?

If you have a short-ram... Instead of switching to a CAI, how about removing the front driver's fog, then fabricating some kind of scoop/tube that runs from the light opening, to the fender wall (where you'd cut for a CAI)... That way you can keep the filter away from water (I'm guessing it's somewhat safer than a CAI at least), but you're still funnelling in cold air in the same way...

Interested to see what do you guys think...

f550maranello2 Aug 19, 2004 10:19 AM

theres not enough room i dont think

JetBlackMax83 Aug 19, 2004 10:24 AM

Just installed my injen cold air intake and i love it makes the engine sound nothing less then beautiful i wouldnt settle for somthing jerry rigged but i give you props for the idea

tomservo291 Aug 19, 2004 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by FutureProof
What do you guys think of this?

If you have a short-ram... Instead of switching to a CAI, how about removing the front driver's fog, then fabricating some kind of scoop/tube that runs from the light opening, to the fender wall (where you'd cut for a CAI)... That way you can keep the filter away from water (I'm guessing it's somewhat safer than a CAI at least), but you're still funnelling in cold air in the same way...

Interested to see what do you guys think...

nice photo in your quote, I've ridden in one about a year ago... was quite nice. but my buddy (works as civil engineer at $16-18/hr depending on job and reservist with 1.5 years of active duty pay already ... at age 22) just got a 2k4 WRX STi. I definitely have to say its much nicer then the EVO :grinno:

BSwithTF Aug 19, 2004 10:39 AM

I'm running a set-up like this. I have a JWT pop-charger with the PR CAI piping feeding into the opening at the end of the filter. I put an elbow on the end of the piping in the fenderwell and ran it to the foglight opening. I need to get picks of it on my cardomain site. It's easier to look at pics than for me to try and explain it.

FutureProof Aug 19, 2004 10:44 AM

Cool!
 

Originally Posted by BSwithTF
I'm running a set-up like this. I have a JWT pop-charger with the PR CAI piping feeding into the opening at the end of the filter. I put an elbow on the end of the piping in the fenderwell and ran it to the foglight opening. I need to get picks of it on my cardomain site. It's easier to look at pics than for me to try and explain it.

So it has been done, ahh well, there go my hopes for the "FutureProof Intake Mod" title :rolleyes:

How's it working out? Have you run any other intake set-ups? Does it compare well? Was it tough to fit everything in? Etc, etc...

Cheers

K

BSwithTF Aug 19, 2004 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by FutureProof
So it has been done, ahh well, there go my hopes for the "FutureProof Intake Mod" title :rolleyes:

How's it working out? Have you run any other intake set-ups? Does it compare well? Was it tough to fit everything in? Etc, etc...

Cheers

K

I had a cheap Ebay intake, then went to the PR CAI, then put on the JWT, and finally built the piping up to the JWT. Of all of them I like this set-up the best.
It works really well. Intake temps drop very quickly when you're moving. It used to take awhile for the temps to drop after a stoplight. It does get the filter dirty very quickly though. Thank goodness for washable filters. :) Fitment wasn't bad. I had to cut the PR pipe a little to get it to sit where I wanted it. I took the front tire and fender lining off to put the elbow in there.

FutureProof Aug 19, 2004 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by BSwithTF
It does get the filter dirty very quickly though. Thank goodness for washable filters. :)

I'm using a REworks steel mesh cone filter at the moment,
http://www.keirsmith.com/maxima/pictures/dsc00709.html

I'm not sure if steel mesh filters can be cleaned... Maybe putting some paper filter material at either end of the 'scoop' would keep it clean?

Cheers

K

mzmtg Aug 19, 2004 11:10 AM

You mean a scoop in here?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...0_144_full.jpg

With a duct up to here?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...0_143_full.jpg

As you can see, yes, it has been done.

95maxWV Aug 19, 2004 11:11 AM

I had an old roomate that had a jeep wrangler.. for sake of argument I will call this process jersefication.. (no offense to NJ people) you just would have had to met this guy. anyway. he used the top half of his stock airbox and ran two different sets of the piping you use for dryers.. the siler stuff. down to the front under the bumper and kept them just out of sight with two metal clothes hangers bent up. the ends of these were cut to match up with eachother and the stock air box and taped up with a healthy heaping of WV chrome.. 100 mile per hour silver tape. he claims it made a huge difference with a k&N drop in filter.

right now i have a popl charger from ebay. that sits in my stock bottom half of the air box. i figured when i moved the channel from the front would push the hot air away from the filter and allow it to work better. im not sure if it does.. but it sounds sweet and does make a little difference..

95maxWV Aug 19, 2004 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by mzmtg
You mean a scoop in here?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...0_144_full.jpg

With a duct up to here?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...0_143_full.jpg

As you can see, yes, it has been done.

excuse my ingnorance but what is the copper piping mzmtg? is that a sensor relocation or soemthing?

95maxWV Aug 19, 2004 11:25 AM

also.. how much diff does a midpipe make.. mine still has the big plastic oil whatever its called on there.

mzmtg Aug 19, 2004 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by 95maxWV
excuse my ingnorance but what is the copper piping mzmtg? is that a sensor relocation or soemthing?


That's his nitrous purge

95maxWV Aug 19, 2004 12:04 PM

any reason why it goes to the front of the car.. wouldnt you want that to go out the back?

95maxWV Aug 19, 2004 12:13 PM

do those steel filters work as well as like a k&N style?

|Bijan| Aug 19, 2004 12:48 PM

96maxWV - nitrous purge doesnt make ANY difference whether it's in front, side, or rear of the car. Apparantly you dont fully know what it's for.

Steel filters...it's gona be preference. I personally have K&N mesh/foam. But the steel is just for looks. They do the same thing and sound about the same.

95maxWV Aug 19, 2004 12:59 PM

yeah.. i have no idea.. but i was using the word "purge" as saying like you purge your exhaust fumes out the back of the car through the exhaust pipe. I just wondered why he spent so much time wiring it to the front. thats all.. is there a benefit to this or is this just where he put it..

JetBlackMax83 Aug 19, 2004 01:19 PM

mzmtg were did you get that black plug for your intake from i wanted to do that but didnt know were to get the right size cap so i can cap it up and throw a breather on

mzmtg Aug 19, 2004 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by JetBlackMax83
mzmtg were did you get that black plug for your intake from i wanted to do that but didnt know were to get the right size cap so i can cap it up and throw a breather on

That's not my car.

|Bijan| Aug 19, 2004 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by mzmtg
That's not my car.

:king2:

Oh it will be....one day

Imobejoas Aug 19, 2004 02:06 PM

I don't have search (keyword: thermo couple (sp?)).. but I did do some research on air temperature and their locations. And guess what, the pop charger gets near ambient air without any pipes. This happens only when in motion though. At a stoplight it will slowly heat up to the engine temp, but once you start moving it cools off pretty quick.

Injen CAI sitting behind the radiator is just a constant warm/hot air. Never EVER cooling down to ambient.

|Bijan| Aug 19, 2004 02:23 PM

Imobejoas......when/where/how did you do your research on that?

ivolley Aug 19, 2004 02:31 PM

NO offense but.......
 
Some guys have been modding their 4th Gens for more than 5 years and many have tried all kinds of little ideas. I did a mod that I never posted, I first did this 3 years ago, I cut a circular hole at the bottom of the intake resevior (with a dremmel) inserted 2 inch tubing from a vacuum cleaner and attached it to a scoop the sits in the lower grill (worked very well on high end) and it is invisible. Inclimate weather I would seal the opening to the scoop with a tennis ball I colored black. I have this setup on my I30 but it is useless currently because I have a CAI, but I am going back to stock soon.

|Bijan| Aug 19, 2004 02:33 PM

Kerry Getz's e46 M3 has fog light air inducts :nod:


/mischief invasion

VIP Maxima Aug 19, 2004 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by JetBlackMax83
Just installed my injen cold air intake and i love it makes the engine sound nothing less then beautiful i wouldnt settle for somthing jerry rigged but i give you props for the idea


i love my injen :cool:

atpham89 Aug 19, 2004 03:29 PM

This is my setup. Used a Air Duster Can to test if the air-flow runs smoothly, and the air-flow was good. I might changed the inlet to a funnel type later when I have time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_2824.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_2823.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_2822.jpg

atpham89 Aug 19, 2004 03:30 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ke/IMG2820.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ke/IMG2821.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_2825.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_2826.jpg

Imobejoas Aug 19, 2004 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Soul Fly
Imobejoas......when/where/how did you do your research on that?


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....19#post2905219

atpham89 Aug 19, 2004 05:20 PM

Imobejoas, what's the WAI that you're talking about in your research thread? Sorry to bother you. Thanks in advance.

Imobejoas Aug 19, 2004 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by atpham89
Imobejoas, what's the WAI that you're talking about in your research thread? Sorry to bother you. Thanks in advance.

Pretty much any type of filter that sits open where the stock airbox goes. The air there, is near ambient when the car is in motion.

Ant96GLE Aug 19, 2004 08:26 PM

Didnt Plurco and Jime have one right behind the headlight?

ManualMaxima Aug 19, 2004 10:24 PM

why would you wnat to remove a fog for a intake when you could just put it in the frontbottom of teh grill?

now if i did not have a fog then i would see maybe doing it....keep the fog light buddy, and think of another idea of where to put it,


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