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MR_Maxi Jun 27, 2005 06:22 PM

Recipe for 14's
 
I have a 95 OZ spec maxima/Cefiro auto, atm the only mods are custom catback 2.5" exhaust system, and a K&N air filter, I recently took it to the track and ran 16's in it, with no spare or jack.
Was wondering what NA mods other than what i already have will get me into the 14's ???

THT Jun 27, 2005 06:26 PM

ECU, 00VI, downpipe, 5spd swap

Low 14s, high 13s if you're God's chaueffer.

MR_Maxi Jun 27, 2005 06:41 PM

By ECU is that just upping the base timing and extending the red line ? Also the 00 VI is that just the plastic intake manifold off the 2000 model ? I'm still trying to source a 5 spd here, they only came out in 95-96 and would be less than 100 in all of oz so sourcing one from a junk yard almost impossible, i was going to try the drop resistor mod.

laylow1988 Jun 27, 2005 06:52 PM

oh boy i can tell you didnt read the stickies. ecu,y-pipe,mevi or oovi,intake,catback exhaust,good tires,etc...

THT Jun 27, 2005 06:52 PM

Advancing the timing, A/F tuning, rev limit increase is what I meant. Yes, you're correct about the 00VI. DR mod will do next to nothing for you as the transmission shifts are not a limiting factor with the amount of power you're putting down. If 1/4 mile ET is your objective, look into a high stall torque converter. It will let you torque brake to a higher engine speed so you come off the line better.

MR_Maxi Jun 27, 2005 07:23 PM

Yeah I checked out stickies but nothing to specific there, anyway here's a link to a pic of me @ the track

http://www.heathcoteraceway.com.au/M...e/100_6165.JPG

i30ds Jun 28, 2005 05:43 PM

Its gonna be tough to shave 2 secs off and still keep the car auto. If youre looking for performance a 5spd is a must.

Like THT said, with the right bolt ons, you are looking at low 14s maybe even high 13s if youre lucky (assuming you have the 3.0 liter). Y pipe, cat back, cone intake filter, and the mevi with raised rev limiter and youre there.

Since you are an aussie, I assume you already have the mevi standard (I know it is in NZ). So that means all you need is an uprgraded ecu with raised rev limiter. You might have a problem with the JWT being able to upgrade your ecu (I know the A32s in the arab world have different ecus).

Are you VQ20 (2.0 liter) or are you VQ30 (3.0 liter)? Doing the swap might be difficult if manuals were available only on the 2 liters like in NZ.

MR_Maxi Jun 28, 2005 05:57 PM

The Oz spec maxima/cefiro is 3.0ltr VQ30de, no mevi, we get the same intake manifold as the US spec, I used to have a 5 speed a few years ago, I ran a 15.1 with only cat back and a cone filter.

With the mods mentioned above, what kind of 1/4 would i be looking at with an auto ?

THT Jun 28, 2005 06:02 PM

Catback and cone filter only? What does a stock Maxima run? high 15s? That's what you'll run because those mods don't add signicant amounts of power. You could attribute it to dyno error.

Kevlo911 Jun 28, 2005 06:04 PM

I think you have a dead knock sensor. Check your ECU for codes, it's in the stickies for the how to.

Kevlo911 Jun 28, 2005 06:18 PM

Also, can you post your entire time slip from the track?

udienow Jun 28, 2005 06:47 PM

Somethings definatly wrong with your car if your running 16's with a modded vq30. Car is capable of 15's stock.. Check out knock sensor and everything else for that matter.

MR_Maxi Jun 28, 2005 06:56 PM

The car that ran 16.2 is an auto, 60ft was 2.44, i'll get the rest of the details tomorrow I'm @ work atm and slip is at home.
15.1 was in a manual maxima i owned about 3 years ago with the same mods as the auto one i have now.

blackmaxx96 Jun 28, 2005 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by i30ds
Its gonna be tough to shave 2 secs off and still keep the car auto. If youre looking for performance a 5spd is a must.

I agree because I hate autos... but it's not entirely true.... you can get an auto to be faster at the track if you do enough.......:D

Ceasars Chariot Jun 28, 2005 11:31 PM

weight reduction/light weight wheels/ ypipe/ upgraded ecu/ 5 speed tranny as regarding wheels keep them small like 15 inch or 16 inch and lightweight. i managed a 14.1 with the vq30de but im done with the mods and quests for the 13's. just going to buy a different car. it was fun though

eckohb Jun 28, 2005 11:32 PM

im not far from 14s with i/y/e. now i have the 00vi, and my next mod will be a 00 5 spd:) Xmax is at 14.8 with i/y/e. its not impossible

THT Jun 29, 2005 03:44 AM

Xmax also runs DRs

sean05 Jun 29, 2005 06:05 AM

I hate this stuff! its to d@mn addicting. Right now my 96 5 speed has i/y, short throw and ran a 15.08 at 94mph i believe? This was all in street trim with spare and jack. Was not expecting to race that day but i couldnt resist. My Apexi WS catback will be on within the month. I hope to reach 14.8 in track trim and with the exhaust.

Right now i have no muffler (LONG STORY!) so i think that could be holding it back a bit also. Good luck in your quest it gets expensive but its lots of fun!

Sean

THT Jun 29, 2005 02:50 PM

Learn to drive your car better and you'll be in the 14s. Neal is proof that 4th gen 5spds can do 14.5, bone stock.

sean05 Jun 29, 2005 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by THT
Learn to drive your car better and you'll be in the 14s. Neal is proof that 4th gen 5spds can do 14.5, bone stock.

well u come drive it and we will see how u do :wiggle:

NmexMAX Jun 29, 2005 03:00 PM

Cat-backs don;t do much for 4th gens ... And definately not .2 ... Don't shift as per your signature since you don;t have any sort of VI, read the 1/4 miole forum stickys for further information. He didn't say he did, he said Neal did, so why would you want THT driving? Seriously, THT's right though, abuse your car and you should be better even without your cat-back. ...

Jason R Jun 29, 2005 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by sean05
well u come drive it and we will see how u do :wiggle:



or I could come drive it. ;)

THT Jun 29, 2005 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by sean05
well u come drive it and we will see how u do :wiggle:

You don't want me driving a manual as I haven't driven one consistently for nine years. However, my car is becoming a 5spd in three weeks so we'll see how quickly I re-learn. I'll let you know when I'm in the 13s. lol

sean05 Jun 29, 2005 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Cat-backs don;t do much for 4th gens ... And definately not .2 ... Don't shift as per your signature since you don;t have any sort of VI, read the 1/4 miole forum stickys for further information. He didn't say he did, he said Neal did, so why would you want THT driving? Seriously, THT's right though, abuse your car and you should be better even without your cat-back. ...

abuse it? i never hard of that making it faster :scratch: whats wrong with me putting shift in my signature?

I think the catback would be better then it without a muffler. I never said the catback would cut off .2 Putting on the sawblades, HAVING A MUFFLER, dropping the jack and spare, would shave off .2.

THT Jun 29, 2005 03:23 PM

You have the DE IM which falls on it's face in the upper RPMs. The ideal engine speed for you to shift at is well before redline (go to the 1/4 mile forum and find out when you should shift). If you had a VI such as 00VI or MEVI, you should shift at redline (as per your signature); that's what NmexMAX was referring to. As for the muffer vs. catback debate, I don't think it'll make a difference and here's why. Not having a muffler reduces a restriction in your exhaust. An aftermarket catback is generally of 2.5" diameter which also reduces backpressure. However, you'll be putting a muffler back on. It's a wash in my mind.

eckohb Jun 29, 2005 10:02 PM

he ran a 14.9 without the drag radials. its possible for autos to get into the 14s with the basic i/y/e and normal weight reduction

ThisMaxIsTight Jun 29, 2005 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
weight reduction/light weight wheels/ ypipe/ upgraded ecu/ 5 speed tranny as regarding wheels keep them small like 15 inch or 16 inch and lightweight. i managed a 14.1 with the vq30de but im done with the mods and quests for the 13's. just going to buy a different car. it was fun though

:surprised holy crap, the All-Mighty Caesar is not going to be running the Max anymore !! .. NOOOOOOO ... dude your like my idol :) .. if you decide to part any of the max out, let me know... I love those SSR's ;)

Jason R Jun 30, 2005 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by ThisMaxIsTight
:surprised holy crap, the All-Mighty Caesar is not going to be running the Max anymore !! .. NOOOOOOO ... dude your like my idol :) .. if you decide to part any of the max out, let me know... I love those SSR's ;)


I have a set you can buy.
:)


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