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MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 07:23 PM

Can't make up my Mind need Fellow Orgers Advice
 
Ok, I love my Max, and i'm now highly thinking about trading it in or Selling it to get an Audi A6 2.7T (Twin Turbo)1998-2001 Model. Don't get me wrong the Max served me well and I have a mod that I still need to install a JWT ECU but I'm willing to sell everything wheels and all. Right now the car has been sitting in the garage for 3 weeks from a recent accident(Mom backed up into it with Van), but soon its going to the body shop to get fixed, once its fixed it will be flawless as far as Body and Mechnical functions. Then I will store it back in the garage till winter season is over. Anyway I have been research and I can't find any bad reviews on an Audi A6 2.7T, there are a bunch for sale, so i'm thinking that there has to be something up with them, does anyone know anything about this car with this particular engine. Do you think the Audi will make a good replacement for the Max?

You can check out my Max on my Cardomain

lilaclucymaxima Dec 7, 2005 07:25 PM

Good replacement meaning... mechanical quality and reliability? Negative. Speed? Definitely.

MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 07:29 PM

Mechnically because I want it to last I'm not sure of the life span on a Audi

1991tsi Dec 7, 2005 07:30 PM

I have a friend with an A4 1.8T, very comparable in terms of torque band and size/handling to max. I assume the A6 would be similar, more weight but more power. Interior is likely to be nicer, usually a better balance of luxury/sport with german suspensions. If i remember, consumer reports doesn't endorse the A6 as one of the most reliable used vehicles, but they're not car people afterall...

Digital Dec 7, 2005 07:30 PM

Audi's are horrible when it comes to reliability. My friend sold his S4 cause it had so many problems, and servicing is mad loot. But to each his own.

99grnmaxgxe Dec 7, 2005 07:31 PM

Keep in mind that parts and insurance are more expen$ive, but it sure is faster!

lilaclucymaxima Dec 7, 2005 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by MAXDADDY98
Mechnically because I want it to last I'm not sure of the life span on a Audi

Well, there are always acceptions... but that would be a poor choice mechanically.

MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 07:37 PM

It's crazy just because the Audi A6 has about 3-4 different motors in it

MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 07:38 PM

It was driving me nuts to pick one I had to do alot of research on all the Motors

lilaclucymaxima Dec 7, 2005 07:39 PM

Looks like you need to do some more research. Find out what years of the 2.7L TT had what problems. And how expensive it is to fix those problems, etc.

Nissan 6 Dec 7, 2005 07:41 PM

98-01 Audi A6s came with twin turbos? You have a nice max so this is a hard desicision but I would go with the A6 since it has a greater fun factor....

EDIT: Nevermind I thought you meant the A4 :vqman:

lilaclucymaxima Dec 7, 2005 07:44 PM

Why not get an S4? Much more power-capable than any A-model, with modification.

MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 07:51 PM

Reason why I picked the A6 is because way more roomyer. I have Access to Alldata which tells yp all the recalls and how to repair stuff, and the recalls for this car is less to none almost

MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 07:54 PM

I do agree about the repair cost will be expensive tho. but that twin turbo is mind disturbing I tend to forget other complication

MDeezy Dec 7, 2005 07:56 PM

gotta think it all the way thru, do all the research and homework, and if it work out in your favor, get it.

Me... I'd pass.

MAXDADDY98 Dec 7, 2005 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by MDeezy
gotta think it all the way thru, do all the research and homework, and if it work out in your favor, get it.

Me... I'd pass.


Thanks for the advice, because I hate to give up a perfect car and be stuck with a POS

Fr33way™ Dec 7, 2005 09:57 PM

If it was short term I would possbly try it. I wouldn't ever buy an Audi as a car to keep. My friend has an A4 2.8Q and (insert any common problem) so we are always messing with it. Its a '98 with around 60K. My '98 Max has 120K and runs very well with just regular maintenence.

His car does feel a bit classier on the inside but I happen to like the black leather in the Maxima more than most any car I have been in.

Audi's are also not very easy to work ON even if you are going to do maint. yourself. Everything is covered in plastic sheilds and straight forward jobs stretch way out.

86maxima96 Dec 7, 2005 10:24 PM

if you are selling (parting?) out the Max, what's would you see fit for the JWT ECU??? interested

Nissan 6 Dec 7, 2005 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by 86maxima96
what's would you see fit for the JWT ECU???

You awake tonight 86maxima? :Police:

themills Dec 7, 2005 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by 1991tsi
I have a friend with an A4 1.8T, very comparable in terms of torque band and size/handling to max.


Maybe if you drive an auto max. with a bad knock sensor. I just have to say this because I drove a 1.8t and it was straight up SLOW compared to the max. especially lacking torque.

njmaxseltd Dec 8, 2005 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by DIGITAL
Audi's are horrible when it comes to reliability.

:sprint:

The Audi is going to nickle and dime you to death. It was rated worst in reliability by consumer reports. I can't tell you how many Audi's come into our shop for nonsense repair issues. Evaporators fail, electriacal issues, trannys, window regulators ect. Make sure that turbo has been replaced, they don't last very long either. If the car has over 60K miles on the original turbo, get ready to replace it v-e-r-y soon. $$$$$$$

NoMax...yet Dec 8, 2005 05:38 AM

I had an Audi in the nintys and it was a classy car. When it came time to change the timing belt the belt was $19.95 and the "special" socket it required to change it was $149! Took the belt back and put the car up for sale.
If it were a lease type situation that would be cool.

hectorc Dec 8, 2005 05:45 AM

Not worth it....too many headaches.

86maxima96 Dec 8, 2005 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Nissan 6
You awake tonight 86maxima? :Police:

haha, wow. apparently not! I was wondering if you were gonna part out the car or sell it as a complete. and if you are going to part out, i wanted to let you know i may be interested in the JWT ECU. it was a long night last night :wavey:

EteRnity059 Dec 8, 2005 08:38 AM

Go to carreview.com and look at the comsumer reviews of the A6. I've never trusted Audi for reliability. Mechanical and Electrical problems are always present.

Litowcas Dec 8, 2005 08:55 AM

A6 2.7 Bi-turbo is way to go! I'm interested in it myself. I dont know much about A6 but my friend has an A4 which gives him many headaches. His turbo got fried after only 60k miles however it made him a good excuse to replace it with a bigger one. Working on audi's is a paintaking job. There are so many little things like plastic covers and special bolts that sometimes make even an easy job take a while.

P.S. If you are planing to sell your car out in parts, dibs on the stillen kit and probably ecu.

lilaclucymaxima Dec 8, 2005 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Litowcas
A6 2.7 Bi-turbo is way to go! I'm interested in it myself. I dont know much about A6 but my friend has an A4 which gives him many headaches. His turbo got fried after only 60k miles however it made him a good excuse to replace it with a bigger one. Working on audi's is a paintaking job. There are so many little things like plastic covers and special bolts that sometimes make even an easy job take a while.

P.S. If you are planing to sell your car out in parts, dibs on the stillen kit and probably ecu.

Almost your entire post contradicts itself.

Dan Dec 8, 2005 09:36 AM

Check out some owner's opinions here: http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/aud...enav..13.Audi*

Those are what sold me on the maxima initally.


EDIT: After reading some, I encourage you to consider some other cars. Reliability is pitiful. How about a 5 series?

tavarish Dec 8, 2005 09:41 AM

i would never give up the reliability of the Maxima, especially not for an audi or volkswagen. 5 of my friends have these cars, and I would cry if that many problems happened to my car. For the amount of money they put into their cars for repairs, I could buy a turbo kit with nitrous for my max. Keep the maxima. Then when you beat them, tell them how many miles are on your engine.

nart86 Dec 8, 2005 09:45 AM

I have both cars at this time
I have a 99 se maxima fully loaded and my dad has a 2000 A6 2.7T and let me tell u something. I prefer the maxima over the A6 in terms of everything (well exept the looks i get from people after seeing a 19yr old kid driving an audi lol)
If u r going to get an A6, get a warranty with it.(not just a dealer's , but also third party )
oh and by the way, stock to stock, the audi is not much faster than the maxima.

don't get me wrong, its a really nice car, but not realiable at all.
with all those mods you've done to ur max, I'd take ur max over an a6 anyday.

MAXDADDY98 Dec 8, 2005 10:39 AM

Thanks for the great responses guys.

evil_spork Dec 8, 2005 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
Keep in mind that parts and insurance are more expen$ive, but it sure is faster!

might not be faster really. a6 is a HEAVY car. they are more than 2000lbs heavier than a max!

clocking in at over 5000lbs!

after driving my moms a6(99, 2.8L), then my max, i can say my max is WAY faster. if you consider the 2.7t version.. it should be about equal.

my biggest gripe with those year a6's is the trunk.. i cant stand that rounded trunk. its soooo ugly to me lol. if it had a trunk like a max it would be an awesome looking car. :D

Specialeded Dec 8, 2005 11:55 AM

I also was going to switch to the VW/audi realm and researched for along time on a model to make me happy. And after reading for days on little problems from electrical to windows falling into the doors, to the check engine light stairing at you face to face because you did not install your cap on you gas tank right. Seems I made a great choice with my Maxima. I had the option for anything, and just figured I always wanted a max. Finaly found a black 5spd, and am very happy with the choice.

MorpheusZero Dec 8, 2005 12:32 PM

Well, I didn't read the whole thread but I was looking into the B5 S4 (biturbo, with the 2.7t engine) for awhile... don't bother. I love those cars. I love them to death, actually.
But your turbos will go every ~50k miles unless you baby the hell out of it, and you're looking at at least $6k each time to replace them.

The car has a GREAT engine in terms of fun, smoothness, torque, feel, noise, everything. I would argue that those cars sound better than a G35, especially with an exhaust.

But it's not worth it. Keep the Max unless you like driving rental cars and paying through the nose for repair bills. The Max is a much better car if you don't have a Honda on the side and a will to put half your income (or more) into the Audi.

But, if you get the A6 anyway... show us some pics. :p
And, dear god, get it in stick.

GREENlight Dec 8, 2005 12:36 PM

I used to want a S4, but a friend of mine worked in a shop and told me that Audi's came in all the time with problems. He basicly warned me to stay away. You will get the speed and the 4wd and all, but it will cost you in the long run. JMHO


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