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glenmoormax Jan 31, 2006 12:21 PM

New BBK installed with my 19's on. are these to close for comfort??? (PICS INSIDE)
 
13 stillen rotors (Dba Gold), 30mm 300zx TT calipers with hawk hps pads, mounting brackets, hubcentric rings, SS conversion lines, ate blue racing brake fliud, 19" Axis se7ens.:ben:

Do these appear too close to any of you BBK folk, or any of you in general? it drives fine but makes me nervous to know how close they are:slant: , they clear my G35c's nicely.



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amimaxima Jan 31, 2006 12:25 PM

looks good man so 300zx bbk do clear g35c's

also you should get a 5mm spacer that way you dont have to get longer wheel studs an the rim will be further away from the caliper

Jeff92se Jan 31, 2006 12:25 PM

That should be fine. Even OEM fitments are closer than that.

I hope you're enjoying the BBK power! I still have brackets and rings if anyone is interested! :D

Jeff92se Jan 31, 2006 12:26 PM

:D:D

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/156/11212930ro.th.jpg


Originally Posted by amimaxima
looks good man so 300zx bbk do clear g35c's

also you should get a 5mm spacer that way you dont have to get longer wheel studs an the rim will be further away from the caliper


Dubbya Jan 31, 2006 12:30 PM

NICE! :drool: I wouldnt worry about the clearance. Looks like you have plenty.

amimaxima Jan 31, 2006 12:32 PM

dont mean to jack your thread but jeff92se i have a question for you i've read alot about doing the 300zx caliper converion and I wanted to know a few things such as :

in order to installl 300zx calipers and 300zx rotors you have to :
get 30 mm 300zx calipers and 300zx stock rotors mill the stock rotors down 3-4 mm and the 300zx caliper will bolt up to the stock maxima location. do you need a conversion brake line? and do you need hubcentric rings?

And in order ro do the true BBK :

you need 300zx 30 mm calipers

13 inch stillen rotors to mustang cobra rotors, mounting brackets, hubcentric rings, and conversion brake lines?

Flava_24/7 Jan 31, 2006 12:37 PM

Thats pretty close,....
Mine were that close,
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/274...arence26ew.jpg
so I threw on some 5mm's just to be safe and that gave me plenty of room.

86maxima96 Jan 31, 2006 12:39 PM

wow, Flavor! that's a close setup!

Flava_24/7 Jan 31, 2006 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by 86maxima96
wow, Flavor! that's a close setup!




Yup, it had me worried. The wheel spun fine with no rubbing, but I felt uneasy with it, so I put on the H&R 5mm spacers.

glenmoormax Jan 31, 2006 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
Yup, it had me worried. The wheel spun fine with no rubbing, but I felt uneasy with it, so I put on the H&R 5mm spacers.


Wow, yeah that is a lot closer...:ugh: where to get those spacers and did you have to get londger studs or shoudl i not worry about it

86maxima96 Jan 31, 2006 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
Yup, it had me worried. The wheel spun fine with no rubbing, but I felt uneasy with it, so I put on the H&R 5mm spacers.

yeah. free-spinning the wheel in your garage is a little different than flyin down the freeway at 70 and hittin a rough bump. scary! and with just 5mm spacers, i'm sure it hardly looks different, but will make the difference between disaster or not.

Flava_24/7 Jan 31, 2006 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by glenmoormax
Wow, yeah that is a lot closer...:ugh: where to get those spacers and did you have to get londger studs or shoudl i not worry about it


I got them from another Org member.With them being 5mm, there was still plenty of threads left on the studs. Anything over the 5mm and you should get longer studs, 8 might be okay, but I wouldnt risk it.

Maximus_95 Jan 31, 2006 02:14 PM

Is this a picture of your BBK right now?
what rotor and which brackets did you use to fit that rotor with the calipper?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...9_127_full.jpg

Jeff92se Jan 31, 2006 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by amimaxima
dont mean to jack your thread but jeff92se i have a question for you i've read alot about doing the 300zx caliper converion and I wanted to know a few things such as :


in order to installl 300zx calipers and 300zx rotors you have to :
get 30 mm 300zx calipers and 300zx stock rotors mill the stock rotors down 3-4 mm and the 300zx caliper will bolt up to the stock maxima location. do you need a conversion brake line? and do you need hubcentric rings?
Lines? Yes. Hub rings? No + wheels that will clear the bbk


And in order ro do the true BBK :

you need 300zx 30 mm calipers

13 inch stillen rotors to mustang cobra rotors, mounting brackets, hubcentric rings, and conversion brake lines?
Correct. + Wheels that will clear the bbk. 4 gen guys need to grind something here and there but no biggie. You also might have to trim / bend your dust cover. Again no biggie.

glenmoormax Jan 31, 2006 02:22 PM

yes that is my current BBK, my friend has the box they came in and i cant remember the name right now, i bought them from max4speed he says he got them from stillen, i got them from him for 104 bucks. i will find out and post the name.

Jeff92se Jan 31, 2006 02:23 PM

The ones I've been telling you to get. Mine. :D


Originally Posted by Maximus_95
Is this a picture of your BBK right now?
what rotor and which brackets did you use to fit that rotor with the calipper?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...9_127_full.jpg

Thing is what is this Stillen rotor? It has to be for the Ford Cobra application correct?

glenmoormax Jan 31, 2006 02:31 PM

i got it from max4speed, he said he got it from stillen but upon looking for it i cannot find it, so i still have the box but im at work so when i find out i will post, i think it started with a P...

amimaxima Jan 31, 2006 03:08 PM

thank you for all the info i think this summer im going to do the 300zx 30 mm calipers and the 300zx rotors.

say i were to get brembo 300zx rotors can i have those milled down also or can you not have brembo (drill and slotted rotors) milled down?

also what is the benifit of have the "true bbk"?
like whats the difference in have all 300zx stuff and having 300 zx calipers and 13 inch rotors?

glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by amimaxima
also what is the benifit of have the "true bbk"?
like whats the difference in have all 300zx stuff and having 300 zx calipers and 13 inch rotors?

i believe that the 300 zx rotors are smaller, ther are 11.5" i think so you got your stock 10" brakes, 11.5-12 300zx, or 13" rotors... since your already having to do everything id just get teh 13" rotors like i did, i had to mill just a tad off for them fo work, i don't believe you have to for the 300zx rotors.

Flava_24/7 Feb 1, 2006 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by glenmoormax
i believe that the 300 zx rotors are smaller, ther are 11.5" i think so you got your stock 10" brakes, 11.5-12 300zx, or 13" rotors... since your already having to do everything id just get teh 13" rotors like i did, i had to mill just a tad off for them fo work, i don't believe you have to for the 300zx rotors.



The 300z and maxima rotors are the same size in diameter.
If you use 300z rotors you will have to have them milled down a bit.

glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 04:39 AM

so even using 300zx rotors you have to mill them down? i guess since you have to its best to just go with the 13" rotors..

on cardomain i can't remember whos maxima but they have pictured comparisons between the 13" rotor, 300zx rotor and our stock rotor.. its pretty cool actually, after seeing the pics i definatly was glad to get rid of our peice of stock crap brakes.

amimaxima Feb 1, 2006 06:01 AM

well it depends how much money you want to spend because if you just dl all 300zx stuff you dont have to buy the brackets and the bigger rotors

glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 06:16 AM

well if your already spending the money to upgrade to a BBK do the true BBK, rotors are cheap and the brackets don't cost an arm and a leg either. maybe 75 bucks extra for the 13 rotors.. just my opinion i guess.

Flava_24/7 Feb 1, 2006 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by amimaxima
well it depends how much money you want to spend because if you just dl all 300zx stuff you dont have to buy the brackets and the bigger rotors


It depends on how much you get the calipers for.
Thats seems to be the most expensive part.
The rotors you can get in the G/D for the 04 maxima and the Cobras have been found for pretty cheap also.
All setups require new lines, the 300z require conversion lines and the BBK's I believe need longer lines.
i was going to do the BBK, but I bought the wrong calipers, so just went with the 300z setup.

amimaxima Feb 1, 2006 06:51 AM

im my case i think im going to just do the 300zx calipers and rotors because i dont want to buy the bigger rotors and the bracket.

also my rims are 18 inch and i used the matt b measurement and i need 1/2 inh of spaceing so i'll have to buy londer studs and spacers

Flava_24/7 Feb 1, 2006 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by amimaxima
im my case i think im going to just do the 300zx calipers and rotors because i dont want to buy the bigger rotors and the bracket.

also my rims are 18 inch and i used the matt b measurement and i need 1/2 inh of spaceing so i'll have to buy londer studs and spacers


Using the 300z calipers may require you to use spacers anyways.
The offset and spoke design of your wheels will determine that.
Im using a 5mm spacer on my setup.

Iron Scimitar Feb 1, 2006 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff92se



FTW!!!!!:bowdown1:

amimaxima Feb 1, 2006 07:23 AM

no what im saying is all im going to do is buy 30 mm calipers and stock 300zx rotors have then milled and then get the conversion brake lines and install them. i know with the rims I have I will have to buy wheel spacers and longer studs

glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 09:29 AM

okay the 13" rotors are sold by stillen, they are Dba Gold's...

Maximus_95 Feb 1, 2006 10:00 AM

these 13" rotors sold by stillen, Dba Gold's, they are for the cobras right?, do they need to be milled down? and plus.....does it fit perfectly with the 4th gen?

Donald199 Feb 1, 2006 10:24 AM

If it clears it clears, the wheels is not going to flex nor the caliper is going to move around.

Jeff92se Feb 1, 2006 10:26 AM

I wouldn't say that. There is some flex. It's the nature of metal. You cannot 100% eliminate flex.


Originally Posted by Donald199
If it clears it clears, the wheels is not going to flex nor the caliper is going to move around.


Maximus_95 Feb 1, 2006 10:39 AM

my question was if those rotors needed to be milled down with the brackets., not if it fits it fits.
those cobra rotors dont need to be redrilled or anything do they?

Jeff92se Feb 1, 2006 10:44 AM

Ugh. My question is why would I design a bracket that requires you to mill down the rotors when I can design that out from the get go???


Originally Posted by Maximus_95
my question was if those rotors needed to be milled down with the brackets., not if it fits it fits.
those cobra rotors dont need to be redrilled or anything do they?

No they don't HAVE to be. But Automax offers to do that if you like.

Alot of your questions can be answered using search.

glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 10:58 AM

I had to mill the rotors a tad, like any other 13" rotor, whether or not these were made for the cobra or not im not sure. but they fit great and stop good. BTW no i didn't have to redrill holes to fit my lug pattern. just use the hubcentric rings and mounting brackets everything bolton on with ease.

Jeff92se Feb 1, 2006 11:03 AM

Actually you DON'T have to mill the 13" cobra rotor for my bbk. But since I didn't design this kit around a Stillen unit, it might have been necessary. My kit is designed around the dimensions of an OEM 13" Ford Cobra rotor


Originally Posted by glenmoormax
I had to mill the rotors a tad, like any other 13" rotor, whether or not these were made for the cobra or not im not sure. but they fit great and stop good. BTW no i didn't have to redrill holes to fit my lug pattern. just use the hubcentric rings and mounting brackets everything bolton on with ease.


glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Actually you DON'T have to mill the 13" cobra rotor for my bbk. But since I didn't design this kit around a Stillen unit, it might have been necessary. My kit is designed around the dimensions of an OEM 13" Ford Cobra rotor


thats true. my friend who put them on said that he didn't have to do it to his cobra rotors. sorry about that... it was necessary however for my rotors.

Jeff92se Feb 1, 2006 11:11 AM

I'm not trying to beat you down or anything but miss information spreads alot faster than correct information. So if I can clarify something, I will try. I also have to write it in the most clear and easiest way possible to avoid confusion. Unfortunately some tact gets lost in there somewhere. Nothing personal.

glenmoormax Feb 1, 2006 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I'm not trying to beat you down or anything but miss information spreads alot faster than correct information. So if I can clarify something, I will try. I also have to write it in the most clear and easiest way possible to avoid confusion. Unfortunately some tact gets lost in there somewhere. Nothing personal.


i understand, i wasn't offended or anything, i appreciate your honesty and your willingness to help, really thank you if it weren't for your help i wouldnt' have had my BBK. I LOVE it. i think it stops faster than my R6. :spin:

amimaxima Feb 1, 2006 02:54 PM

question, when using the stock 300zx rotors I know you have to get them milled down 3-4 mm I was just wondering where you have to get them milled down

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