Who rides 17's in the snow........
 

Am i the only person that keeps my wheels and tires on during the winter?

Does anyone else ride around on there nice wheels in the winter months..?

I personally do this b/c everytime i take off my wheels, I ALWAYS have a stud get stripped or a lug nut stripped. Therefor i have to fix it when its warm and cause myself more work....12 replaced so far.

So screw it..... i leave em on... and i dont drive the day OF snow b/c my EagleF1 tires dont move in it but the next day im out playin around.

maybe u need new lugs if u keep on stripping them. If ur lugs are PERFECTLY fine, then throw some grease on the studs before u screw them on. I used to ride my rims in the snow, until one day what i though wasn't a pot hole was because of the snow. N bam, there goes the rims. And oh, i now have high performance tires rather than the all season, so they don't do well in the snow, hence main reason why i switch them....

A friend of mine bought a WRX STi, and since they come with summer rated tires, and he's from Quebec, he needed snow tires and bought a set of Mille Miglias for them. He couldn't find a cheaper wheel that fit over his brakes :)

As for the lug stud issue -that sounds really wacky. Are you using anti-seize? What torque to you keep them at? Any idea why they're breaking?

Dave

I have no idea. Ive never had such a lug problem before this car.
I tighten them down good. I have use oil on the lugs when puttin them back on... but needless to say and 12 lugs later..... they keep striping...
EVEN my Gorillaz lugz and factory studs..

ANYWAY..... I roll on black-chrome in the snow.... I almost feal lazy but im not going through lug-replace mayhem every year.
*I have 4 xtra lugs and 4studs in my toolbox to justify this problem lol....

What torque are you putting them to? Lubricating threads increases the tensile force on the stud for a given applied torque. Anything over 80ft-lb is liable to overstretch the stud. It's absolutely vital to use a torque wrench.

Dave

I don't b/c I don't have 17's and it doesn't snow here.;)

i do.. with all season bridgestone tires...

sorta worn in front now.. well there almost slicks now... but i just drive very slow.. not in a hurry

blessed with a truck and a jeep wrangler being accessible anytime...much easier than swapping rims... garage the max for the rough days...

I drive on 18's since my steelies got stolen for some reason.

snow :confused:.

I drive with my 17' Enkei's, I have some sumitomo HTR+ tires on there and happily surprised with the traction(they are all season tires)

I would keep my 17's on (if I had some) mainly because it doesnt snow down here. If I was up north, I'd buy some cheap sawblades and equip them with snow tires for the winter.

And use anti-seize on your lugs, it will preserve its life.

I don't bother changing the stock rims that I have on right now, too much work.

Man this sounds like an issue with the torque, and the lack of a good thread anti sieze. I would definately suggest getting some anti-sieze, and a good torque wrench to torque them down to fact specs 80 ft/lbs.

on 18's here, in lots of snow... dunlop M3 wintersport tires... trying to get rid of the wheels, anyone interested?

the M3s are great, but you cant stop physics, an 8" wide tire isn't going to do too well in snow.. i have boats for feet

I don't think the width of the tire is the problem, its the compound.

eh, i tend to think thinner tires would cut through the snow better.

which they do. which is just one of the many elements that go into the quality of traction/performance in snowy weather.

#1. I do have a problem over-tourqueing my lugs on. Better to be safe than sorry ya know...

Any 8in wide tread is honetly going to be worse in snow. The wide the tread the more slick surface it has to slide upon... I had a lowrider once with 8in wides in back and it didnt move much in the snow.....I thought it did good, until i put the factory wheels 4in wide back on and then the truck did great (Mazda B2000 86' truck)

Bridgestone makes nice snow tires.. course my maxima wouldnt know, im riding on summer street only tires in the snow Eagle F1's

I did and do here in MD. We get snow maybe once or twice a season and that's all. However, i am moving up to Albany NY next fall for college....and i hear the snow up there comes atleast once a week if not much more. I may be saying bye to my low pro's and rims :(

I rode on Kumo HTR+ like highoctane79 does... They did really good i thought.

A friend of mine has Bridestone blizzak tires on his little mazda p5 wagon... the car does rally races in the snow they hold so well..

descent: well wait man... are those G35 wheels or 06 Maxima.. Either way your rims have the factory viynl protectant on them. You just need snow tires for those.....I almost guarantee they make the perfect tire for that wheel...probably a good investment since youll only need em' 3 months out of the year.

i ride my 18s in the snow with summer tires and you know how much snow we got in pa this last storm.

Since I don't have to do too much driving (gotta love public transportation in the city) in the winter, I just keep my 17s on. My Kumho Ecsta ASX all-seasons have been decent the few times the weather has gotten bad, but if I had to do more driving in the winter than I do I would buy some sawblades with snow tires.

You should definately tone it back down to ~80 ft/lbs of torque. Alot more and your going to cause more harm than good. at 80 ft. lbs the rim isn't going anywhere, and you can say good bye to the stud problem.

#1, I bet you're using an air/impact wrench. DON'T DO THAT.
#2, Just use a regular half inch wrench then finish off with a wratcheting torque wrench. You can get these at harbor freight for ~20 bucks.
#3, Anywhere betwee 80-95 lbs is good, however if you take it to a tire shop they're gonna air-wrench it down to 120+ lbs every time. (yes they're a bunch of numb nuts ideots who treat everything like it's a steel rim).

I've had my lug wholes scratched to hell and back by ideots with air guns many times now. They don't seem to have thin walled sockets either...

If you're lugs are breaking either the last guy to torque them on put 120+ on them, or you've got a rock hard suspension and play find the pothole. If you do that, you're strut mounts are probably shot too.

Just a thought...

NO NO>.. I never use Air-Tools.

I use a 3/4 Craftsman Wrench.

I have a Tourque wrench but i refuse to use it honestly. I cant imagine just tightening my lugs down xyz/lbs tight. I worry about my wheels flying off b/c i put it on once and dont check them that often.

Im about 5' 9' 175lbs. and sorta built., My step dad says i do everything to hard and i need to be easier with bolts....hense...... the reason he calls me a "wood butcher"

ok well you have your damn answer right there! u dont use a torque wrench and youre breakin studs, durrrrrrr :tardsmash

Well yaa... Who are you gonna trust, the craftsman tourque guage or a True 3/4 socket driver....? my lifes worth a dozen stud replacements :nod:

I never had this problem with any H-rice car or even my old mazda truck.

well maybe youve gotten stronger since youre "sorta built" and maybe your H-rice cars didnt weigh as much as your maxima....whatever you are dumb not to torque to spec, end of story.

... I don't think anyone else has died from having their wheels come off or even had there wheel come off when putting it on with a normal amount of force. 80 ft lbs is hardly going to just come off. Also overtightening can lead to nice warped rotors also so have fun with that.

Awesome...... something i wasnt aware of :thumbsdow



This thread was about riding on 17's in the snow..... funny how were on my lugs now... :bustrun:

Problem is the Honda's have steel rims, these are alloys. Big difference.

But ya I ride on my tyte JdM 16s y0!!!11!!1!