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dr-rjp Mar 6, 2006 04:27 PM

I'm not usually impressed with oil additives...but
 
Frankly, i'm not very impressed by the idea that an oil additive will make one's car that much better than the oil that is already in the pan. I run either Mobil 1 or Pennzoil synthetic with a high quality filter, and really don't see the need to "gum up the works," so to speak.

Well, that all changed this weekend.

I stopped at a local Advance Auto Parts store to pick up some Meguiar's leather conditioner (good stuff) and a some microfiber cloths. While I was waiting in line, I noticed a tall, gold bottle of an oil additive called HydraLube. {CORRECTION -- this product is called HYPERLUBE: http://www.hyperlube.com/prod_hyper.asp}

Don't ask me why I bought it because I don't know.

I decided it was time to change my oil and I was going to add this stuff.

Once I looked inside the bottle, I could see that this additive was as thick as the old STP stuff...but it was clear.

So, I thought, "Oh great, this is just another viscosity modifier."

Well, because it was so thick, I decided to add two quarts of synthetic oil first, and then a quart of the HydraLube, and then another quart of oil. Because it was so thick, I had to run the engine to get it mixed enough to read the dipstick.

I then added more oil to bring it up to the H level.

It's been two days since I did the change, and all I can say is that this stuff really does make a difference. My car never idled so quietly, nor have my accelerations been more smooth.

It could all be in my head...or in my crankcase.

Either way, I'm having fun again.

pratch Mar 6, 2006 04:36 PM

Chances are high that it was the oil change itself that restored your idle.

That being said, I'd be interested to know what's in that stuff.

Do you happen to have a link to their site?

rsly33 Mar 6, 2006 04:53 PM

Ive never heard of hydralube and I cant even find the stuff with google or BITOG
You dumped a full quart of this stuff in? Even with additives like AutoRX and LubeControl, its at the most 12 oz.
Maybe you should of researched this stuff a little more before dumping a quart of it in

Fr33way™ Mar 6, 2006 06:43 PM

My idle and starts are always smoother after oil changes.

dr-rjp Mar 7, 2006 07:59 PM

Oops! It's called HYPERLUBE, not HYDRALUBE
 
No wonder you could not find it on Google.

Here's a link to their website:

http://www.hyperlube.com/prod_hyper.asp

I changed my oil last month, so it did not need changing. The car was running fine before I did the oil change.

Again, I simply took a chance on it. I mean, somebody has to be the first one to try it (which I probably am not).

Anyway, I'll wait to hear if anyone else has some experience with it.

WhiteMaxima9600 Mar 7, 2006 08:27 PM

Think i'll stick with good ole castol gtx. My dad had a 86 nissan pickup used nothing but castrol every 5k. Sold it to my cousin with 256,000 which later jumped a ditch and plowed into a brick house. Body was screwed, but motor still purred like a fat warm kitten............ Just my 2 cents

WhiteMaxima9600 Mar 7, 2006 08:31 PM

This stuff is probaly the same thing as synthetic oil. Just use mobil 1 or castrol syntec. A little expensive at 5 bucks a quart but hey the vq deserves a little spoiling

MDeezy Mar 7, 2006 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Fr33way
My idle and starts are always smoother after oil changes.

:sprint:

nothing like that fresh oil feel

Cdg2125 Mar 7, 2006 09:49 PM

Anybody running Royal Purple? That's what I usually use but if someone has a better suggestion I'd love to hear. Thanks!

dr-rjp Mar 8, 2006 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMaxima9600
Think i'll stick with good ole castol gtx. My dad had a 86 nissan pickup used nothing but castrol every 5k. Sold it to my cousin with 256,000 which later jumped a ditch and plowed into a brick house. Body was screwed, but motor still purred like a fat warm kitten............ Just my 2 cents

Interesting how personal preferences play a part. for years, I've heard from mechancs to avoid Castrol lke the plague. Perhaps, it has gotten better since then.

dr-rjp Mar 8, 2006 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMaxima9600
This stuff is probaly the same thing as synthetic oil. Just use mobil 1 or castrol syntec. A little expensive at 5 bucks a quart but hey the vq deserves a little spoiling

Castrol is the only oil I've been told by mechanics to avoid. But, maybe they were talking about the non-synthetics.

I use Mobil 1, but also use Pennzoil, which I can get in the 5 qt bottle at Walmart for $18.44; that's $3.69 per quart.

I've used both Mobil and Pennzoil for years with great results.

Well, it's been five days running with the Hyperlube and the starts are still faster, and the acceleration quicker than before. For how long this power boost will last, only time will tell.

dr-rjp Mar 8, 2006 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Anybody running Royal Purple? That's what I usually use but if someone has a better suggestion I'd love to hear. Thanks!

Well, that's why I posted this story about Hyperlube.

RDroz Mar 8, 2006 07:05 AM

Stop winding people up.

Some poor Noob will believe this and get ridiculed at school the next day.

Sheesh, everybody know the way to get a perfectly smooth idle is to align all the coins in the ashtrap heads up.

Richard

Business810 Mar 8, 2006 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by dr-rjp
Interesting how personal preferences play a part. for years, I've heard from mechancs to avoid Castrol lke the plague. Perhaps, it has gotten better since then.

Just out of curiosity, did the mechanics cite any particular reason to avoid Castrol? After looking around the Fluids forum on the org and a bit on Bob is the Oil Guy, I didn't really see anything bad about it. If anything, a fair number of people recommended it. Perhaps they have just gotten better over the years like you suggested or something.

Oh, and for more about additives, check out http://www.bobistheoilguy.com, there was an interesting test of Lucas Stabilizer in there, plus there may be more info in the forums.

DennisMik Mar 8, 2006 08:17 AM

Dr-rjp said it - personal preferences. if the engine is in decent shape, you don't really need the additives. Change your oil regularly & frequently and the engine will serve you well. my old datsuns from the 70's & 80's that i drove on the job would have over 400K before i had to junk them because the body rotted out. and i never used additives.

oils have changed over the years because of the additives the refiners put in them. back in the 30's, if you mixed brands, you might end up with "jelly" in the crankcase. oil from pennsylvania is a thinner crude than texas or saudia arabia but todays additives the refiners use compensate for that.

my 2 cents says pick a brand and stick with that. don't use house brands because the stuff inside the bottle will change and you have no idea what's inside the bottle. and NEVER use fram oil filters.

95mtlMAXSE Mar 8, 2006 09:57 AM

ok, how about switching from agip regular oil to mobil 1 synthetic??? Is it bad? I want to run on synthetic oil figuring it's better for the car.

Tim96I30t Mar 8, 2006 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by 95mtlMAXSE
ok, how about switching from agip regular oil to mobil 1 synthetic??? Is it bad? I want to run on synthetic oil figuring it's better for the car.

You can, but not all at once.....75/25...50/50......

rsly33 Mar 8, 2006 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
You can, but not all at once.....75/25...50/50......

Why would you need to mix?
You can switch over between synthetic to regular/ regular to synthetic at anytime.

MaximaEvolution Mar 8, 2006 01:52 PM

that hyperlube is just like Lucas Oil Stabilizer

I've been usin Lucas for years now and I love it. Seems to keep the internals coated much better than oil alone.

I also use fully syntheic Mobil 1, always!

And 93 octane! No matter how much it costs!:hyper:

dr-rjp Mar 9, 2006 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Business810
Just out of curiosity, did the mechanics cite any particular reason to avoid Castrol? After looking around the Fluids forum on the org and a bit on Bob is the Oil Guy, I didn't really see anything bad about it. If anything, a fair number of people recommended it. Perhaps they have just gotten better over the years like you suggested or something.

Oh, and for more about additives, check out http://www.bobistheoilguy.com, there was an interesting test of Lucas Stabilizer in there, plus there may be more info in the forums.


WHEN WILL PEOPLE STOP REFERENCING BOB-IS-THE-OIL-GOOF?

Geez. It's like a rumor that will not die. Just, so you'll know, the pics of Bob's test results were definitely photoshopped.

To be honest, the scoop on Castrol was about 20 years ago, and specifically referenced Castrol GTX -- so these comments refer to that type. There were two different mechanics from different shops who told me that GTX would frequently break down and/or thin out during normal to heavy use. They started noticing a trend occurring in the engines they worked on; i.e., they found, among other things, that piston rings prematurely wore out in engines that specifically used GTX.

So, in the past 20 years, Castrol may have gotten their act together and started making better oil -- but, I have stayed clear of Castrol ever since.

Business810 Mar 9, 2006 06:24 PM

I actually found that test linked somewhere in the fluids and lube forum :gotme:
I did not know the results were so clearly false as you say.

That's interesting about Castrol GTX though, especially since all of the more recent analyses on the org I've seen suggest it holds up fairly well. I guess there have been improvements.

Apparition Mar 9, 2006 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by RDroz
Stop winding people up.

Some poor Noob will believe this and get ridiculed at school the next day.

Sheesh, everybody know the way to get a perfectly smooth idle is to align all the coins in the ashtrap heads up.

Richard

you live in AB, you're talking priveledges have been disabled... stop acting like you know nissan, your choice ride will be a moose, get to it.





... I'm a canadian living in the U.S. so dont even try to throw nationalism at me.

RDroz Mar 10, 2006 07:05 AM

If you feed your moose only dew soaked morning grasses, he'll last longer and go further per bushel. Its a Canadian fact.

And there's no such thing as a Canadian living in the USA. If you live in the USA you have to pledge yourself to George and become an American patriot. (Bonus points for enlisting in the Reserves):hat:

Richard

goldmax Mar 10, 2006 07:27 PM

I feel the same way about EXP4. Saw the dyno test that was done on SpeedTV's Sports Car Revolution where they picked up about 5% Hp from adding EXP4. The guys testing it have been doing the Dream Car garage show for years and really know cars. I checked this forum, and it seemed no one had tried the stuff, so I sent off for it and tried it myself. Mixed it with my usual Mobil 1 at 130K miles. I am definitely amazed. The engine definitely has more power, and especially where our motors need it...the low to mid range...where we drive our cars every day. The engine is definitely smoother, and seems to rev more freely in the RPMs where I normally drive. I'm going on 500+ miles since I added it, and still have the same results. I'm convinced I'm not experiencing a "placebo" effect. I'm the original owner and have been driving the car for 9 years, so I know when things are for real. Checked my mileage on the first tank, but unfortunately I had to do more highway driving on that tank than normal, so this week's tank with mostly city driving will be the real test to see if there is any increase in mileage. The only disadvantages are the price ($15) and the fact it's not sold in retail stores...had to order it from their location in Texas. Would be interested to see if anyone else has tried the product and if they had similar results. It is definitely the best "bang for the buck" I have ever done on any car.


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