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Daily Interlude May 23, 2006 06:26 AM

Starter occasionally spins on 95 Se (doesn't turn motor over)
 
Anyone have any ideas on why occasionally the starter will just spin and not turn the motor over occasionally? Has anyone else seen and fixed this? It does it about 40% of the time and I can't find any rhyme or reason as to why it does it vs when it doesn't do it.

Anyone?

ptatohed May 23, 2006 10:12 AM

Does it sound close to starting over?

Daily Interlude May 23, 2006 10:27 AM

No, it never actually turns the engine when it's doing it. It just spins the starter and doesn't effect the engine at all...

ptatohed May 23, 2006 10:34 AM

:o)
 

Originally Posted by Daily Interlude
No, it never actually turns the engine when it's doing it. It just spins the starter and doesn't effect the engine at all...

O.k., then it isn't what I thought it 'might' be. It just sounds like a plain old bad starter. I would remove it from the car (not too tough a job) and have it bench tested for free at AutoZone, Kraegan, etc. Good luck.

ManualMaxima May 23, 2006 10:36 AM

solenoid maybe......not kicking the gear out

Delvin May 23, 2006 10:41 AM

Go ahead and replace it. Sounds like your gear is spinning but not sticking out and engaging the flywheel.

Vlasic May 23, 2006 10:48 AM

smack it with a wrench a few times and it should start.....seriously.

willard00 May 23, 2006 11:38 AM

yep, time to replace it!

hasei May 23, 2006 11:48 AM

If you replace a starter yourself, you might as well try re-greasing before buying a new starter. That is, if you haven't tried it yet. I did this a few months ago and I haven't had a single occurence of starting issue since then.

risingmist May 23, 2006 12:58 PM

re- grease it, its simple and cheap.
make sure you try to get grease on the shaft that holds the teeth.
the teeth are the ones that connect with the flywheel to turn the motor over. when your done the teeth should slide in and out of place really smoothly. this is more likely your problem.

Daily Interlude May 23, 2006 01:10 PM

Well, it works occasionally so the re-greasing sounds about right.

I had it tested by Autozone about a year ago and it was fine. I had a bad sensor that was keeping me from starting.

I'll tell you, I really like this maxima aside from the starting issues! once I get her started, she's really nice to drive! ;)

I'll try greasing it up. What kind of grease? Does it matter?

acidspit86 May 23, 2006 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by ManualMaxima
solenoid maybe......not kicking the gear out


123
10 char

Delvin May 23, 2006 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by acidspit86
123
10 char

WTF
10char

hasei May 23, 2006 01:28 PM

Motorvate says synthetic lithium soap grease, but I went to Autozone and bought one on the shelve. I think it was like "DuraBlend synthetic blend grease" or something. I read the label but didn't put much thought. They were cheap anyway no matter what I choose.

Hopefully re-greasing will fix your problem.

Daily Interlude May 23, 2006 03:07 PM

OK, took it all apart and greased it with Moly EP grease and it is still doing it. I guess it's the solenoid? :(

Vlasic May 23, 2006 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Vlasic
smack it with a wrench a few times and it should start.....seriously.

You dont want to try my cave man aproach? I was completely serious when I said it. In the 2.5 years I have owned my car, my starter has done this 2 or 3 times and tapping it with a wrench or screw driver or what ever made it start right up. Just tap the solenoid housing and the gear housing and it should pop right out.

turbojeff May 23, 2006 06:48 PM

I've replaced 2 starters in the 95 and 96 Maximas I've owned in the past. It seems they are a common failure point.

Daily Interlude May 24, 2006 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Vlasic
You dont want to try my cave man aproach? I was completely serious when I said it. In the 2.5 years I have owned my car, my starter has done this 2 or 3 times and tapping it with a wrench or screw driver or what ever made it start right up. Just tap the solenoid housing and the gear housing and it should pop right out.

That's just not a convenient thing to do all the time. If it's broke, I'd rather fix it and move on than having to pop the hood and bang away at the solenoid.

The car has come a long way from what it used to do. I could hardly get it to start, even if the starter did engage right. I added a grounding point from the battery to the 14mm bolt and made sure all battery connection points where solid (they were a bit loose) and it starts a lot better...although it does just spin occasionally.

I'll try this though until I can find the money to buy a new starter...

I also had to change that sensor down by the oil filter...

DrTySOUFMaX23 May 24, 2006 11:23 AM

anyone got the link on how to replace it?

Daily Interlude May 26, 2006 11:27 AM

This link has how to remove the starter too...

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/516

ptatohed May 26, 2006 11:36 AM

:o)
 

Originally Posted by Daily Interlude
I added a grounding point from the battery to the 14mm bolt and made sure all battery connection points where solid (they were a bit loose) and it starts a lot better...although it does just spin occasionally.


You also now need to run one more wire from the 14mm bolt to any bolt on the other side of the trans. The starter grounds through the trans so you need to make a "jumper strap", if you will. I think this will solve your problem. Give it a shot.

- Josh

Daily Interlude May 27, 2006 04:44 AM

So from the same 14 bolt that was from the battery should go to a tranny to engine bolt on the other side of the tranny? Think it will help with the spinning (lack of engagement)?

DrTySOUFMaX23 May 29, 2006 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Daily Interlude
This link has how to remove the starter too...

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/516

thanks for the link that was really helpful!

ptatohed May 30, 2006 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Daily Interlude
So from the same 14 bolt that was from the battery should go to a tranny to engine bolt on the other side of the tranny? Think it will help with the spinning (lack of engagement)?


Yes sir.




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Daily Interlude Aug 28, 2006 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by ptatohed
You also now need to run one more wire from the 14mm bolt to any bolt on the other side of the trans. The starter grounds through the trans so you need to make a "jumper strap", if you will. I think this will solve your problem. Give it a shot.

- Josh

Bump with update. Added 8 gauge wiring as described above. Didn't help. It goes from the battery to the starter to the other side of the tranny (bottom)...

Any other ideas?

Also, what is the little clip/connector(s) that sits right at the positive side of the battery on the cable?

acidspit86 Aug 29, 2006 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Delvin
WTF
10char


i was quoting him, trying to mean i agree

Daily Interlude Dec 25, 2006 05:31 PM

Just to update...I replaced the starter with one from Advanced and it starts right up everytime! No spinning or joking or anything...

And got me an 11 tooth starter from a 99 too...


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