Radiator Fans Not Working
#1
Radiator Fans Not Working
I've been toying with my Maxi recently, fixing things here and there. I had mentioned in the Noobie post that it seems to be running hot while showing a temp in the middle of the gage. I was running a couple of tests and noticed that my fans aren't turning on. Is this a fuse/relay problem? or is it a thermostat problem?
#2
It can be a few things, the fans are turned on when a sensor in the engine reaches a certain temp. The ECM will energize a relay which turns on the fans. The relay should have 2 hot leads, 1 lead which is grounded by the ECM and one that goes to the fans. Find the relay and check for those powers, then cross the power feed with the wire going to the fans and see if they power up. If they do, do something to "make the fans come on" and make sure the ECM terminal is grounding when it should. If they don't turn on crossing the wire, disconnect the fans and make sure you are getting power to the plug, if so, check and make sure the other side is ground. If both check out down there, then the fans are having a problem. If the ECm is not grounding, check continuity between the ECM and that relay, if that is good, cross the coolant sensor and see if you can trick the ECM into powering the fans.
Fixing this problem is not too difficult, just be carefull and be sure to check for everything. You may even just want to start at the fans, disconnect that connector and see if you are getting power when the fans are suppose to be on. That is the fastest way to see whats going on. Also try to find a wiring diagram, that will save you a lot of time and guess work. good luck
Fixing this problem is not too difficult, just be carefull and be sure to check for everything. You may even just want to start at the fans, disconnect that connector and see if you are getting power when the fans are suppose to be on. That is the fastest way to see whats going on. Also try to find a wiring diagram, that will save you a lot of time and guess work. good luck
#3
I see, I'll check that out. I'll have to see if I can locate a wiring diagram. I failed to mention another related issue that i have been having. It seems to be rejecting coolant that I put into the reservoir tank. It's empty (when cold) and I put in coolant, then I notice that i end up leaking it out or losing it on a drive. I haven't been able to find the leak location yet. During my search for leaks is when I noticed that the fans weren't turning. Anyway, thanks for the starting point.
#8
Originally Posted by Maxima13
I have noticed that my radiator is spraying everywhere, i assumed it was the cap so i bought one of those pressure release caps, but it still seems to spray anti freeze eveywhere. help!
#9
well when i took it to a nissan dealership they told me it was the cap, so i changed it. i mean i looked into it but it seemed fine, i couldnt figure out where it was leaking from. and for some odd reason, im not loosing any anti freeze, its still full. so im stumped
#10
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
So, how do you know for sure you're running hot?
the fans NEVER turn on and I lose coolant, which means that I should be running a little hot. Unless I have a super-cool running engine with no aftermarket parts... which is extremly unikely. Getting the fans to engage and stopping my coolant spray is what I am trying to troubleshoot.
#11
i have the same problem with my car....i temporarily solved it by disconnecting the plug that reads the temp of the coolant....its on the driver side of the engine bay im not exactly sure what its called....but as soon as i unplugged it both fans turned on instantly....but the only down side is they never turn off....hence the "temporary" fix.
#13
Turn your AC on ands ee if they come on.
Could be cooling fan motor, fan motor harness, fan relay.
There are 2 fan speeds that are triggered by different scenarios.
Off, low, high
With A/C off,
Off = coolant temp 201*F or below
Low = 203 - 219
High = 221+.
When the A/C is in the on position, the fans are always on 'low' regardless of ECT, hence why I suggested what I did.
Could be cooling fan motor, fan motor harness, fan relay.
There are 2 fan speeds that are triggered by different scenarios.
Off, low, high
With A/C off,
Off = coolant temp 201*F or below
Low = 203 - 219
High = 221+.
When the A/C is in the on position, the fans are always on 'low' regardless of ECT, hence why I suggested what I did.
#14
Not wanting to hijack this thread but have a similar question and observation.
So they go to high at 221? I know my temp gauge gets up to half way and stops unlike my American cars that seem to waver between 160 and 200 which is half way. On a Maxima, what temperature should we get alarmed at? I checked my coolant levels yesterday and they seem fine and even checked the the coolant with an antifreeze tester and it said I was good down to -21 so I know the mixture is fine too. I do know that my fans do go from off to low to high, just didn't know how long they should run at high.
So they go to high at 221? I know my temp gauge gets up to half way and stops unlike my American cars that seem to waver between 160 and 200 which is half way. On a Maxima, what temperature should we get alarmed at? I checked my coolant levels yesterday and they seem fine and even checked the the coolant with an antifreeze tester and it said I was good down to -21 so I know the mixture is fine too. I do know that my fans do go from off to low to high, just didn't know how long they should run at high.
#15
After I cleaned and re-connected all the terminals on the relays and connectors, it turns out that the fans work when A/C is on(vey nice). So now to diagnose why I can't keep coolant in there. No matter how much coolant I put in the reservoir, it is always empty after a 1/2 hour drive. I do have a slow leak that i am trying to get to and plug, but i shouldn't be losing that much. What's the deal with those pressure release caps? Should I test mine? How do you do it?
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Originally Posted by kaneda_77
leak isn't in the radiator... its somewhere near the alternator.... (driver side, middle engine area, on the bottom) does that spell disaster?
Fans work, problem solved.
#21
Radiator fan- is it a fuse or did you have a wiring diagram?
It can be a few things, the fans are turned on when a sensor in the engine reaches a certain temp. The ECM will energize a relay which turns on the fans. The relay should have 2 hot leads, 1 lead which is grounded by the ECM and one that goes to the fans. Find the relay and check for those powers, then cross the power feed with the wire going to the fans and see if they power up. If they do, do something to "make the fans come on" and make sure the ECM terminal is grounding when it should. If they don't turn on crossing the wire, disconnect the fans and make sure you are getting power to the plug, if so, check and make sure the other side is ground. If both check out down there, then the fans are having a problem. If the ECm is not grounding, check continuity between the ECM and that relay, if that is good, cross the coolant sensor and see if you can trick the ECM into powering the fans.
Fixing this problem is not too difficult, just be carefull and be sure to check for everything. You may even just want to start at the fans, disconnect that connector and see if you are getting power when the fans are suppose to be on. That is the fastest way to see whats going on. Also try to find a wiring diagram, that will save you a lot of time and guess work. good luck
Fixing this problem is not too difficult, just be carefull and be sure to check for everything. You may even just want to start at the fans, disconnect that connector and see if you are getting power when the fans are suppose to be on. That is the fastest way to see whats going on. Also try to find a wiring diagram, that will save you a lot of time and guess work. good luck
help.
#22
Welcome aboard!
Good for you for searching first, they like that here!
The best way to get the right help is to describe as well as you can, what you're experiencing and the facts you know! Also, start your own thread.
At least one of the sharp crew here will ask the right questions to hopefully walk you down the right path to success.
I hope this helps!
Good for you for searching first, they like that here!
The best way to get the right help is to describe as well as you can, what you're experiencing and the facts you know! Also, start your own thread.
At least one of the sharp crew here will ask the right questions to hopefully walk you down the right path to success.
I hope this helps!
#23
There are fuses for the fans. They are located under the hood, between the battery and the fender. The cover labels them RAD FAN 1 and RAD FAN 2.
As these cars are getting old, it is possible that both fans have gone bad. When the car is off, take hold of the fan blade and wiggle it front to back. There should be absolutely zero play. Try spinning the fan blade. It should turn with almost no effort.
As these cars are getting old, it is possible that both fans have gone bad. When the car is off, take hold of the fan blade and wiggle it front to back. There should be absolutely zero play. Try spinning the fan blade. It should turn with almost no effort.
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