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camaro1698 Aug 26, 2001 07:23 PM

I'm in the market fore new struts. What do you guys think kyb or koni's. I want a soft ride, but I also want to be able to drive pretty aggressively!!

Gotrice4 Aug 26, 2001 08:44 PM


Originally posted by camaro1698
I'm in the market fore new struts. What do you guys think kyb or koni's. I want a soft ride, but I also want to be able to drive pretty aggressively!!
Question: Stock or aftermarket lowering springs or coilovers?

If you get anything aftermarket, the consensus is Koni's or the new to be unwailed KYB AGX adjustables.

The benefit of the AGX is no modification to stock struts, just bolt in and enjoy!!!

riggy Aug 26, 2001 09:08 PM


Originally posted by Gotrice4


Question: Stock or aftermarket lowering springs or coilovers?

If you get anything aftermarket, the consensus is Koni's or the new to be unwailed KYB AGX adjustables.

The benefit of the AGX is no modification to stock struts, just bolt in and enjoy!!!

i was also debating that......i know ppl have been happy with konis but dont know about kyb.....im in no hurry so i guess i'll find that out too...

camaro1698 Aug 26, 2001 09:25 PM

I'm keeping the stock springs for now, so what do you think??

RedMax95 Aug 26, 2001 09:26 PM

hey does anyone know how much the agx will be running for, in other words $$$?

camaro1698 Aug 26, 2001 09:36 PM

when are the kyb agx coming out??

breaux124 Aug 26, 2001 09:43 PM


Originally posted by camaro1698
when are the kyb agx coming out??
Hopefully the middle of september, but most probably later than that.

buss95max Aug 26, 2001 09:49 PM

kyb were suppose 2 come out 2 years ago

RedMax95 Aug 26, 2001 09:51 PM

so do u think the gr2s are better than toks?

DCmax Aug 27, 2001 09:15 AM


Originally posted by RedMax95
so do u think the gr2s are better than toks?
I have the gr2s and I love them. The overwhelming majority of the people I know with Tokicos have or are planning on getting rid of them.

The kicker for me was when I friend of mine bought a set of gr2s used with 27,000 miles on them and they still ride great. Most people with Tokicos report harshness after around 10k miles.

mzmtg Aug 27, 2001 09:31 AM


Originally posted by DCmax

Most people with Tokicos report harshness after around 10k miles.


That would be me. My toks have lost all sense of rebound damping...

camaro1698 Aug 27, 2001 10:10 AM

so do the kyb gr2 give a softer ride or a harsher. I've heard that the konis can be adjusted so that its a soft ride. are the kyb like that??

mzmtg Aug 27, 2001 11:14 AM


Originally posted by camaro1698
so do the kyb gr2 give a softer ride or a harsher. I've heard that the konis can be adjusted so that its a soft ride. are the kyb like that??
I've heard that the softest setting on the Konis is still much firmer than stock. Not that that's a bad thing.

We dont know about the KYB AGXs since they arent out yet.


The KYB GR-2 is a little firmer than stock.

Ramius83 Aug 27, 2001 05:31 PM

Yeah, well, my stock springs and stock struts ride just fine, kinda like a big old Lincoln Town Car, and the 4x4 gap lets me go off-road, yeeeeehaawwwwwww. :smash: But I am gonna wait for the KYB AGXs to come out since they can be put in without any modification and the rear struts can be adjusted without having the remove them like the Koni's. Good luck with what ever you choose.

camaro1698 Aug 27, 2001 07:37 PM

are ythe kyb gr2 a pain in the *** to put on. I've heard the koni's are difficult to put on because they dont bolt on, do the kyb gr2's bolt on like the tokikos

DCmax Aug 27, 2001 08:46 PM


Originally posted by camaro1698
are ythe kyb gr2 a pain in the *** to put on. I've heard the koni's are difficult to put on because they dont bolt on, do the kyb gr2's bolt on like the tokikos
The gr2s and Tokicos are cake compared to the konis.

lax99max Aug 27, 2001 09:21 PM

Does anyone know if Bilstein's going to make some for Maximas?

Dave B Aug 27, 2001 09:42 PM

Hey, I have both :D Koni's in the front and GR-2s in the back. I'm also running Suspension Techniques springs.

The Konis are MUCH firmer than stock even when on the softest setting. To put the Konis in will require you to cut the old strut, remove the internal and oil, slide in the the new strut, and bolt it down. From start to finish, installed and on my car, took 2 hours. The only fancy tools I used were a dremel and spring compressors. The Konis have been in for 1 year now. On the softest setting and pushing on the front end, rebound is about 1/2". On the firmest setting, rebound is hardly measureable...no joke.

My GR2s were installed 1.3 years ago and have 15000 miles. The GR-2s are a bit firmer than the stock SE struts and I believe they are superior to the Toks everyone uses plus they are much cheaper. After 15000 miles, they are still firm and hardly rebound (~3/4") with a forceful push from the trunk.

For a daily driver with no ambitions to either drag race or autocross, the GR-2s are by far the best set you can buy plus they are designed for the extra load of semi-aggressive (~1.7 drops) lowering springs.


Dave

AdMax98 Aug 27, 2001 10:35 PM


Originally posted by Dave B
Hey, I have both :D Koni's in the front and GR-2s in the back. I'm also running Suspension Techniques springs.

The Konis are MUCH firmer than stock even when on the softest setting. To put the Konis in will require you to cut the old strut, remove the internal and oil, slide in the the new strut, and bolt it down. From start to finish, installed and on my car, took 2 hours. The only fancy tools I used were a dremel and spring compressors. The Konis have been in for 1 year now. On the softest setting and pushing on the front end, rebound is about 1/2". On the firmest setting, rebound is hardly measureable...no joke.

My GR2s were installed 1.3 years ago and have 15000 miles. The GR-2s are a bit firmer than the stock SE struts and I believe they are superior to the Toks everyone uses plus they are much cheaper. After 15000 miles, they are still firm and hardly rebound (~3/4") with a forceful push from the trunk.

For a daily driver with no ambitions to either drag race or autocross, the GR-2s are by far the best set you can buy plus they are designed for the extra load of semi-aggressive (~1.7 drops) lowering springs.


Dave

So the Gr-2s wouldnt be able to handle Sprint springs (2" drop)?
Also are the new KYBs going to be fairly high priced like the Konis?

Dave B Aug 28, 2001 08:02 AM


Originally posted by AdMax98


So the Gr-2s wouldnt be able to handle Sprint springs (2" drop)?
Also are the new KYBs going to be fairly high priced like the Konis?

KYB says that the GR-2s are designed to safety handle a 1.7" drop. If you go lower, then the struts will most likely wear out quicker.

The adjustable KYBs will probably be $130-100 each depending on front or rear. I choose to go with the GR-2s in the rear because I saw no point in having to remove my strut to make adjustments. I figured I'd just wait until KYB comes out with the AGKs. My front Konis should last the life of the car.



Dave

Dave B Aug 28, 2001 08:09 AM


Originally posted by AdMax98


So the Gr-2s wouldnt be able to handle Sprint springs (2" drop)?
Also are the new KYBs going to be fairly high priced like the Konis?

KYB says that the GR-2s are designed to safety handle a 1.7" drop. If you go lower, then the struts will most likely wear out quicker.

The adjustable KYBs will probably be $130-100 each depending on front or rear. I choose to go with the GR-2s in the rear because I saw no point in having to remove my strut to make adjustments. I figured I'd just wait until KYB comes out with the AGKs. My front Konis should last the life of the car.



Dave


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