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cefiro a32 02-08-2008 04:38 PM

Spark plug Horsepower comparison
 
Just found this very informative dyno comparison of various spark plugs. Includes NGK laser platinums, V-power, G-power, and Iridium IX. As far as performance is concerned the ranking would be:
1. Iridium IX
2. Laser Platinums
3. V-power/ G-power

http://www.sparkplugs.com/sparkplug4...fid=0&KID=3095http://www.sparkplugs.com/glossaryImages/499.jpg

kelby 02-08-2008 06:29 PM

thank you man. good find. 35$ for NGK Iridium IX on ebay!

FishyMan 02-08-2008 11:55 PM

I"ve heard and read that using anything outside of the recommendation for 'stock' purposes are a complete waste and can fudge the engine up.

99grnmaxgxe 02-09-2008 07:51 AM

Dude whatever, a racing strip pwns the HP given by spark plugs. 25 WHP baby! :yeahright

cefiro a32 02-09-2008 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by FishyMan (Post 6236946)
I"ve heard and read that using anything outside of the recommendation for 'stock' purposes are a complete waste and can fudge the engine up.

Anyone of the listed NGK's would be perfectly fine for our cars. I have even heard that Denso's are fine also but then again I have only used them on a toyota solara. I would definetly stay away from Bosch though


Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe (Post 6237627)
Dude whatever, a racing strip pwns the HP given by spark plugs. 25 WHP baby! :yeahright

Another idiot adding crap posts to threads. Good job buddy. Aren't you supposed to be doing your homework or something little one?:laugh:

BeZerK2112 02-09-2008 10:54 AM

That was very interesting. I have the Iridium IX and have been loving it. Glad to see they are the most consistent out of any of the plugs.

Nice find on the chart, but I would like to see the same chart with the VQ engine.

cefiro a32 02-09-2008 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by BeZerK2112 (Post 6237831)
That was very interesting. I have the Iridium IX and have been loving it. Glad to see they are the most consistent out of any of the plugs.

Nice find on the chart, but I would like to see the same chart with the VQ engine.

I would love to see the same chart for the vq engine as well. However, its probably not likely since one would have to spend over $500 on spark plugs and dyno time to run a similar comparison. You would also spend hours just changing spark plugs.

vqmaxman 02-09-2008 06:49 PM

I just did a recent tune-up and I was using the Iridium IX and I also felt some difference. I lost some low end and had better mid range and high end power. The car also warmed up In less than a minute cause they are so aggresive with the heat. I know that Iridium Is a quality type of metal that excepts high excessive heat and The car feels more torquey.

96blkonblkse 02-09-2008 09:22 PM

Meh, i noticed no difference when i went from iridium to platinum. Anyone heard of the "Placebo Effect" I think thats mostly what you guys feel, because personally my butt dyno is pretty in-sensitive, i barely noticed a difference when i got my y-pipe, although i noticed it a bit when i took it off.

maxx0831 02-09-2008 09:38 PM

i use NGK iridiums and works great wouldnt change them

cefiro a32 02-11-2008 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by maxx0831 (Post 6238568)
i use NGK iridiums and works great wouldnt change them

I put NGK iridiums in my GFs volvo c70 when she first bought the car with 40k miles and you could feel a big difference. When I have to change my plugs I'll definitely use the iridium IX.

tbergma1 02-11-2008 08:44 PM

When i put on my coppers i noticed about a 100hp increase. I could now spin the tires through all 5 gears. I also get about 50mpg now. What i really noticed is that i could stop faster and corner better.

Bottom line, no one can tell the difference between those SP's. Somebody should do the pepsi challenge, but with spark plugs.

cefiro a32 02-11-2008 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by tbergma1 (Post 6241679)
When i put on my coppers i noticed about a 100hp increase. I could now spin the tires through all 5 gears. I also get about 50mpg now. What i really noticed is that i could stop faster and corner better.

Bottom line, no one can tell the difference between those SP's. Somebody should do the pepsi challenge, but with spark plugs.


LOL:laugh:

Sorry I wasn't more clear. What I meant was that the car ran much smoother and the throttle response seemed to be better. Than again, the plugs I removed were Densos and they were pretty fouled.
You definitely won't feel any change in power from using different spark plugs.

99grnmaxgxe 02-12-2008 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by cefiro a32 (Post 6237787)
Another idiot adding crap posts to threads. Good job buddy. Aren't you supposed to be doing your homework or something little one?:laugh:

Crappy post for a crappy thread.

NmexMAX 02-12-2008 07:14 AM

Comparing a boosted application to an NA app is apples to oranges. Even then, less than 2% difference = FTL

So I'm with 'the little one' on this one. :rolleyes:

cefiro a32 02-12-2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 6242053)
So I'm with 'the little one' on this one. :rolleyes:

????????? What is that supposed to mean:confused:
You agree with him that a racing stripe increases power by 25whp? You guys should get together and play some Pokemon, or whatever else you little ones like to play :laugh:


Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe (Post 6242034)
Crappy post for a crappy thread.

So why did you take the time to read it then? This thread is exactly as the title reads "Spark Plug Horsepower Comparison"

Crusher103 02-12-2008 11:19 AM

lol not much help for us NA but its good to know, those NGK Iridium are freakishly consistent, I think they would be the best investment, im surprised at the Denso Iridiums performance thought they would be identical to the NGK and I would never buy those pulstar plugs anyway

NmexMAX 02-12-2008 03:07 PM

Less than 2% gain :spit: I gain more w/ a GAB.

cefiro a32 02-12-2008 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 6242686)
Less than 2% gain :spit: I gain more w/ a GAB.

Really????

You might want to take a look at this thread?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=dyno+gab

By the way, butchering your air box is not a smart thing to do. Our stock intake is superior to any after market intake.

Also, 2% gain is excellent for $30. Then again your talking about ghetto air boxes. lol:laugh:


Originally Posted by Crusher103 (Post 6242392)
im surprised at the Denso Iridiums performance thought they would be identical to the NGK and I would never buy those pulstar plugs anyway

Pulstar plugs are around $25 a piece. Thats just F'n Crazy. The only way I could justify buying these is if they gave you an extra 5-10mpg.

NmexMAX 02-12-2008 05:13 PM

I've dynoed my own gab and have gained 9 whp with, as well as 3 other members as well. 0$ for 9whp gain, seems like a no brainer.

Another item, right now I am a supporting stock airbox member, BUT, I'm not saying it gives you the most power, I'm just the one who is trying to gain the most with it by modifying as much as I can in between. I have seen the stock A33 airbox support as much as 230 whp, and the stock cat-back support up to 247whp, so I am pioneering my way to see if I can at least fit somewhere in between that.

Also, this convo is not 4th gen specific, but it has more to do with Maximas than this thread does.

cefiro a32 02-12-2008 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 6242882)
I've dynoed my own gab and have gained 9 whp with, as well as 3 other members as well. 0$ for 9whp gain, seems like a no brainer.

Another item, right now I am a supporting stock airbox member, BUT, I'm not saying it gives you the most power, I'm just the one who is trying to gain the most with it by modifying as much as I can in between. I have seen the stock A33 airbox support as much as 230 whp, and the stock cat-back support up to 247whp, so I am pioneering my way to see if I can at least fit somewhere in between that.

Also, this convo is not 4th gen specific, but it has more to do with Maximas than this thread does.

9whp??????????? I would love to see the dyno on that one.:laugh: Or maybe the other supposed members could provide the dyno graph. :laugh:Or maybe you mean -9whp?:laugh:

Sorry to rain on your parade, but people who opt for the GAB cannot afford dyno time. LOL :laugh:

Anyhow, thanks for the laughs:laugh:

SEmy2K2go 02-12-2008 08:25 PM

Someone wasted a lot of time, A LOT.

NmexMAX 02-12-2008 09:12 PM

Me: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...5&postcount=30
Bgates: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....767&highlight=
SR20DEN: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...5&postcount=22

I might look for the other one, but IIRC, Blu also saw the same gains.


By the way, I’ve done my share of dynoing with this car.


http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...00&postcount=5
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=552190 <--There is only 1 set of runs in that entire comparison that is NOT mine.

f550maranello2 02-12-2008 09:13 PM

wow poor Neon probably needed a rebuild after that test lol...

cefiro a32 02-12-2008 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=NmexMAX;6243386]Me: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...5&postcount=30
Bgates: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....767&highlight=
SR20DEN: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...5&postcount=22



Those graphs look fake to me.

NmexMAX 02-13-2008 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by cefiro a32 (Post 6243445)



Those graphs look fake to me.

Is that all you've got? :thumbsdow

mowgli29 02-13-2008 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by cefiro a32 (Post 6243445)

are you really calling out Nmex and SR20?:laugh:
They have both contributed enormous amounts of useful info to the org. Just about the only sources for useful info left around here...

maxima92se 02-13-2008 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=cefiro a32;6243445]
You asked for graphs and you got them now you think that they are fake. WOW i never seen things like. I used to love the .org when there was useful info now its all call outs etc. This is seriously weak i am sorry to say.

hot_wax_tree 02-13-2008 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by cefiro a32 (Post 6241596)
I put NGK iridiums in my GFs volvo c70 when she first bought the car with 40k miles and you could feel a big difference. When I have to change my plugs I'll definitely use the iridium IX.

you felt a huge difference probably cause it was misfiring.

Man this thread only promotes the ricer effect.
you know what I mean the "I put an intake on my car Civic and "added" 20HP it is so fast now!!!!"

sure some different spark plugs work better than others but unless you have a miss fire or something of the sort you will most likely not feel a difference. the charts showed a 1HP gain. if you can feel that you are somethin else.

Puppetmaster 02-13-2008 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by cefiro a32
Sorry to rain on your parade, but people who opt for the GAB cannot afford dyno time. LOL

Yes, that is definitely a fact.


Originally Posted by cefiro a32
Those graphs look fake to me.

Yes, you're a real expert all right, I could hardly tell.

Way to go jumping at people's throats and name calling because they disagreed with what you posted, which isn't even something that you did yourself. That is the best way to gain credibility in anything you do, so please continue.

NmexMAX 02-13-2008 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by mowgli29 (Post 6243866)
are you really calling out Nmex and SR20?:laugh:
They have both contributed enormous amounts of useful info to the org. Just about the only sources for useful info left around here...

I have to give credit to SR since all I've done was what he had already done.

cefiro a32 02-13-2008 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 6243678)
Is that all you've got? :thumbsdow

Whats up with the loop in the graph between 4500-4750?

Looks like someone sneezed when they had the crayon on the paper...

I apologize ahead of time if I'm wrong, but I've never seem anything like that before. I'm also having a hard time believing that a GAB adds 9whp. All the posts that I have read about GABs seems to indicate that its not a good idea.

aih98max 02-13-2008 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by cefiro a32 (Post 6244288)
Whats up with the loop in the graph between 4500-4750?

Looks like someone sneezed when they had the crayon on the paper...

I apologize ahead of time if I'm wrong, but I've never seem anything like that before. I'm also having a hard time believing that a GAB adds 9whp. All the posts that I have read about GABs seems to indicate that its not a good idea.

i may not be one to talk....but Nmex is one of the smartest and most senior members on this thread.....i believe most all he says. I had a GAB on my 4th gen until i (for a stupid reason) went with a short ram. GAB added way more than the short ram.

ps......those spark plug comparisons were for an SRT4, completely different car/engine/vehicle than a maxima...

NmexMAX 02-13-2008 04:45 PM

That loop can be seen in all auto dynos, it's the LUTC. A34's have a LOT more issues with that than I do. At the time I was a rookie in the dyno game and didn't let it shift correctly. That is irrelevant since the dynos were done all after another and actually show a change in power with solely the GAB. Read the entire thread and see what and how I compared the items.

Pyromaniac1050 02-13-2008 08:14 PM

i would definately run the stock oem NGK plugs. theyre expensive but also have longevity on their side

mowgli29 02-13-2008 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Pyromaniac1050 (Post 6245431)
i would definately run the stock oem NGK plugs. theyre expensive but also have longevity on their side

yes, NGK>all. As long as it's an NGK: iridium, platinum, etc. will all be fine.

and Nmex, it seems like there might be a fan club on the rise!:bowdown1: :laugh:

NmexMAX 02-13-2008 09:40 PM

It’s SR’s fanclub, I just live in it and keep gaining everytime I dyno. :ben:

cefiro a32 02-13-2008 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 6244994)
That loop can be seen in all auto dynos, it's the LUTC. A34's have a LOT more issues with that than I do. At the time I was a rookie in the dyno game and didn't let it shift correctly. That is irrelevant since the dynos were done all after another and actually show a change in power with solely the GAB. Read the entire thread and see what and how I compared the items.

Alright, I guess I have been proven wrong. :bowdown1:
Your the man, But im still not gonna butcher the air box.:laugh:

NmexMAX 02-13-2008 10:04 PM

Neither am I :grinno: Looks tacky, and well, heck too loud. :wall:


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