showdown

i know theres prly been like a billion threads on this but i blew my motor in my 95 and i was thinking of puttin a 5th gen motor in...but im on a tight budget...

#1 does the 5th gen motor sit flawlessly on the 4th gen motor mounts...
#2 does it bolt up to the 4th gen tranny
#3 will a motor from an auto maxima bolt to a 5spd tranny?
#4 is it basic plug and play
#5 would u suggest...and if any, what are the advantages of 5th gen motor over 4th gen... ex power...reliability

99BlackMaxMS

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4th Gen Engine - VQ30DE
5th Gen Engine - VQ30DE-K

The only main difference is the intake manifold. Search is your friend.

black_maxed95

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by fifth gen im assuming you mean 2000-01 (vq30de-k)

1-yes
2-yes
3-yes assuming you have the flywheel/clutch/etc...
4-no, not completely
5-more power due to the intake manifold. more reliable only cause you will find 5th gen engines with less miles.

LeVeL

All motor forum might be better for this, too. gl

MaxGordon7

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what he said, i've done it. No shop will do it.

NmexMAX

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00VI'd DE still has more potential for higher peak power up top. If nothing is wrong with your DE, just get a 00VI. That's what I would do.

QNO_A32

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"00VI'd DE still has more potential for higher power up top." so a 95-99 with VI will have more ***** than a 00-01 depending on condition.care to educate me???

MOHFpro90

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^^Assuming that they have roughly the same mileage(no loss in compression), etc...they will be about equal^^

He also said "more potential", not "faster"

QNO_A32

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yeah i was pretty sure they would be about equal but thanks anyway just thought i might be missing something. i was never thinking "faster" thanks
*maybe a difference in VI switchover point? not rpm because that varys but will it activate harder on a DE,like not as refined as a DE-K?

nismology

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The DE intake cams have 8° more duration than their DE-K counterparts.

QNO_A32

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oooooooh, now I see. thank you very much.

Grand_hustle17

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i like this thread for some reason... and in that it's still going, how about the same questions for a DE-K-VQ35??? (in that if i search it would probebly lead me hear )

WhiteMaxima9600

And how exactly did you blow a vq motor? Just curious

JaHuStLa88

I was curious to what he would do...if he would get a smog check would it pass? would he say the engines year or what would occur? any input would be great for future references 1st post and great forum!

NmexMAX

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More potential does mean faster given the vehicles are nearly identical in every other sense.



Same answers.

93altima

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ok i have a question which trim (SE,GXE,GLE) 95-01 Max has HLSD? if i were to put it in my 4thgen would i need to get new axles or can i use my same ones???

NmexMAX

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No 4th gen ever came w/ HLSD.

nismology

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DE-K VQ35?

Product_Of_Korea

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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=547083
Ceasers thread good info

WTF is a dek 3.5

i bought a dek but decided against the swap for multple reasons
a)my engine is still running strong @ 155k
b)didnt have engine lift
c)dek cams have more advanced timing or something like that
d)now that i have done the 00vi swap if need be if i need to swap the engine it would be very simple( in theory)
e)yeah the junk yard says it was a good working engine but is it really?

bigpulve+

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couldn't you technically consider a vq35 with an 00VI retrofit a vq35dek?

LeVeL

If you want an lsd look at I30s or some 99 maximas

QNO_A32

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i wonder what would make better power on a 3.5, a 00VI mani or the SSIM???

S1cTech

wat if the TP was referring to the VQ35 engine and not the VQ30K?

QnzMax

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Another thing with the DE-K is that it has better cooling passages than the DE. Therefore, engine temps will be slightly lower.

Grand_hustle17

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ok, if you were laughing at me then you and whoever joined you with illiteracy cant read, cause i clearly put DE-K - VQ35 but for you and others, i meant DEK to VQ35 and if you dont get that, basically swaping a vq35 into a 2000

nismology

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Ok



What exactly is your question, though?


(not even going to get into your spelling and grammar errors...ironing )

maxboy325

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I thought I was the only one that - inserted

NmexMAX

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We back on that again?

djbonfire

showdown; did you ever do the dek swap?

modenaf1

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I've noticed, at least from youtube videos, it seems like the 4th gens have a nastier intake growl than the 5th gens, does that have something to do with this cam duration do you think? Who knows, I could be completely wrong cause sound captured through cameras isn't always the best.

NmexMAX

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The sound you're referring to is due to the intake manifold.

modenaf1

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Oh I see, I hate to take this topic too too far off track, but do longer intake runners have something to do with that loud intake growl? I've seen some engines with shorter runners that don't have nearly as much intake noise.