elgordito941

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Ok So heres the deal. Time for a suspension upgrade. ive been reading the forum and so far wat i got is s tech teins are the best with illuminas struts. Does anyone else agree? and does anyone else have anything better? i dont want to be to much dropped so the h-techs have the least drop but horrible performance? i dont wanna bottom out so suggestions please? thnx?
Also if it helps i have factory se rims but plan on getting 18's soon

-Jc

Coolsaber57

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I think that a lot of people w/ S-techs bottom out, but I'm not sure if they mated them w/ illuminas.

As far as a drop, S-techs are a 2.2" drop and H-techs are 1.4ish" drop.

The H-techs will ride softer, but the s-techs will provide better handling.

Personally, I am going to get H&Rs w/ Illuminas. Did you look into those? There are a lot of people who have that combo and like it a lot.

S1cTech

Tien all the way... There like one of the best, not sure about the S-techs though.

Mxrider52

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I think you got your facts mixed up here.

S-techs give a 2.2" drop and bottom out fairly easy. You arent gonna get a comfortable ride out of these no matter what strut you pair these with. If your wanting performance I would stay away from S-techs at all costs.

H-techs give a mild drop. Roughly 1.5". They give a rougher ride than stock but arent that bad really. The spring rate is 179 lbs/in front and 252 lbs/in rear. Stock SE spring rate is roughly 120 lbs/in front and 200 lbs/in rear just to give you an idea.

The H&R springs compare to the H-techs but they offer a more comfortable ride that is the closest to stock if you want comfort.

Not real sure on what your wanting so it hard to say but with any springs I would pair them with Illuminas.

elgordito941

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well im thinking h-techs then. or possibly h&r. i havnt checked out the h&r's yet. i dont want a heavy drop becuz where i live is rough roads and i go through a million speed bumps a day in my school and at work. so deff the s techs are out. how about struts? any complains on the illuminas?

S1cTech

I would go H-Techs... It just seems like sucha right drop for a Sports sedan...

mooseq30

I have illuminas and I'm loving them!

Algertron

I have the tein S. techs with some kyb agx and the ride is harsh with them but then again thats how i wanted it, and the drop is quite agressive on them too. I have never had any problems with bottom out my car like the other people are saying with the S.techs.

Iron Scimitar

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Ditto, I have the same suspension and i dont bottom out like ppl are saying. If I happen to bottom out, I probably hit a pothole.

udienow

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x3, what they said.

x8ver2007

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go with the illuminas and H-techs the s-techs are too low. with the illuminas just adjust the firmness to your liking. start with a 3/3 and go up from there. I just tried a 5/5 for the summer. might bring to 4/4 for pothole jolts. Also the H-techs give a nice raked stance that if you have a system, people or junk in the trunk.

MAXIMAK99

I have the Illumina's with Tokico red springs, and I think they are okay. The ride isn't great but the stance on the car makes up for it. I have had to replace one of the rear shocks because it started leaking, and now the other rear one is also leaking. Im not going to bother replacing it, Im just going to upgrade to a 7th gen Max in December of January.

mooseq30

I use illuminas with 2 and its perfect and soft yet still stiff for aggressive diving, on 3 they are really tight and barely move up and down but feels great, on 4 its almost like ridding with no springs and no shocks its extremely stiff and moves maybe 1mm-5mm! on 5 its like riding a go kart (wheels to body), no shocks, no springs, it moves 0mm-1mm and is way to stiff and has no use with me and my car!lol
I think it is best to go with illuminas because they are the easiest to adjust, stiff is just a click away!

knight71

I have H-tech with Tokico blues..the drop is mild and it suits our cars perfectly...imo. The ride is almost like stock, but slightly firmer.

QNO_A32

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ive never bottomed out with my s tech where do you guys drive haha

scarface4522

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i got stechs and illuminas on my 5.5 gen and the ride is fine on flat roads and lil bumps but if i hit any size pothole u will feel it really hard, i got the illuminas set at 3f/3r, but i also got 19 inch hiros, and i have bottomed out plenty of times with the bumpstops cut

SmileyFace

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x5 on s techs, i have never bottomed out, the ride is ruff for me is cuz i have 19's with low profile tires but thats only around bumpy roads, other than that the ride is pretty smooth. oh and im on blues. FTW

deffly get illuminas, and if the money is right just go with coilovers, something i deffly want to do

elgordito941

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Anyone know a good fast shipping site to get them off of? Do they sell the h tech and illuminas in a bundle pack?

USC Justice

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I have the S-techs and Tokico Blues. Just up and running with them, but pretty well pleased so far.

nexgenmax

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I remembered reading the instruction on the paper that came with illuminas. It will not support drop more than 1.75inch.

IMO for the money and effort, I would have got tein basic coilover or prolly I would try BC coilover

Coolsaber57

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You're gonna kill those blues w/ a 2.2" drop

SmileyFace

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they were free so im not losing out on anything. they were built good and have handled me for almost a year so i pretty sure i wont

x8ver2007

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I am with the person who said if you want more than a 1.75 drop go with coilovers I do not feel that any shocks can handle the abuse of city potholes and bumps. I know people have illuminas with the S-techs but I wonder the difference in durability. I need to get some H-techs.

phenryiv1

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H-Techs and Illuminas. Don't throw away performance for the sake of looks.

H-Techs and Illuminas will give good looks, good performance, and good handling. Nothing but the ride will be GREAT, but you won't find better all-around performance without dropping $1200+ on your suspension.

I tell you this after installing and/or running about 20 different setups on 4th gens.

elgordito941

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Anyone know a good online shop to get em at ????

Tight_Whip

Wait, so what are you saying is the best set up for performance and looks? I'm confused.

phenryiv1

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I am saying that while S-techs look good, they ride like crap and kill struts. On top of that, on anything but great roads, their limited travel harms performance because they don't have enough travel to properly do their job.

The H-Techs don't look great, but they look a lot better than stock, they ride well, and have enough travel to be good all-around at handling. They also don't ride nose-high on 5MT A32s like H&Rs do.

If money is not an issue, Eibachs, Custom-shortened Konis, Motivational/Ben's rear mounts, and all new rubber parts are the king.

Tight_Whip

I was thinking about doing the Illiumina struts with progress springs. Any opinion on that set up?

Link to progress springs:
http://autosportstyle.com/shop/nissa...s-p-64221.html

Link to Illuminas (Ebay):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKIC...spagenameZWDVW

phenryiv1

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http://autosportstyle.com/shop/nissa...s-p-40333.html

Illuminas are good, and can be dialed in to work well with most springs, but I don't have much experience with Progress. I have driven one car with them, but it was a long time ago.

If you do a search, there is a thread with spring rates. Looking at the drop of the progress, it looks to be pretty mild/moderate, btu if the rates are not high enough to compensate for the drop, you are asking for trouble. I like the Teins because they have increased rates that pair well with the drop distance. On top of that, the fornt drops by 1/2" more then the rear, which helps to dull the nose-high appearance of the A32.

AllMaxxedOut

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It all depends on what kind of stance you're looking to have and the amount of comfort you're looking for on the ride.

I've had s-techs paired with kyb gr2's for over 2 years now and love the ride. Ride is not bad at all for NYC roads. I wanted a nice drop and good handling. Was riding on 17's but now sitting on 19's and ride is still good for my taste.

But it's all about what you're looking to get. For comfort (and as close to stock ride with drop), get the illuminas w/ H&R's.

phenryiv1

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H-Techs ride as well or better than H&Rs (I have had both) with a Tokico strut. H-Techs just look better.

You are brave to run 19s on GR-2s and S-Techs. If you like the ride, more power to you, btu I don't think I'd be able to take it.

The good thing is, you like it- which is all that matters.