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milo2223 06-11-2013 07:56 AM

Another Auto vs 5speed question (please dont flame)
 
Sorry for this guys I just need your opinion on what to do or more like advise, I am 95% ready for a 5speed swap but am in the midle of this decision, I lobe the comfort of the auto and I know if I get an VLSD auto is gon be a lot better but also I love the pick up of the speed and well this is my 1st auto car I've ever owned so idk what to do!! This is my daily driver and I get traffic once in a while, SO what ya'll think!?! Thanx in advance...


Milo.

Fakie J Farkerton 06-11-2013 08:05 AM

Sorry man, but this is your call.

milo2223 06-11-2013 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton (Post 8805802)
Sorry man, but this is your call.

I know man but my 'call' is all f****d rite now lol...

matts95max 06-11-2013 08:14 AM

Stay auto. Done. Glad to help. Now you can focus on more important things :)

Fakie J Farkerton 06-11-2013 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by matts95max (Post 8805805)
Stay auto. Done. Glad to help. Now you can focus on more important things :)

:ben: :lol:

Amerikaner83 06-11-2013 08:17 AM

do you want to row gears in traffic or not?


Also, the 5 speed in the 4th gens tends to have a bad input shaft which causes issues...the autos are more reliable.

dwapenyi 06-11-2013 08:37 AM

I drive my speed in NYC traffic, and as much as I love 5MTs, NYC traffic still kills me. 5 mph for 1.5 hours can rally sap the life out of you, auto or stick. At least with auto the tranny is doing some of the work for you.

Nealoc187 06-11-2013 08:53 AM

i personally have never been bothered by manual trans in traffic, but maybe i'm an exception.

as maximas get older, you have to worry about trans problems more and more. if the trans is in good shape and shimmed properly it will last a long time. if not, you might have to get it fixed in short order. a well driven 5spd is usually faster than an auto is.

saig 06-11-2013 09:08 AM

For convenience stay with auto: 1 hand on wheel, 1 hand free for other things: burger/phone/coffee/makeup-if-u-r-girl.

5spd: constantly aware of current speed and gear. Need to learn and build downshift instinct, or else during close-call/emergency, you may find you attempting to maneuver the car out of danger in top gear (i.e. extremely slow).

milo2223 06-11-2013 09:31 AM

So, so far theres more votes to stay auto... Is there anything wrong with an auto sports sedan?

PowerTotheMax 06-11-2013 10:27 AM

I would stay auto. Although I do hate the lousy upshift / downshift between 40-50.

milo2223 06-11-2013 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by PowerTotheMax (Post 8805892)
I would stay auto. Although I do hate the lousy upshift / downshift between 40-50.

I know me too but I take care of that by turning off the over drive going up hill ;-)

NmexMAX 06-11-2013 11:03 AM

If it makes you actually post a thread asking the question, stay auto.

carsnwomen91 06-11-2013 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8805913)
If it makes you actually post a thread asking the question, stay auto.

thats a good way to put it.

i wanted a fully loaded maxima with a manual so thats what i got lol i like driving it but when it brakes its not like finding another 4spd auto no problem at the yard... i have 3rd gear crunch now if i shift from second at redline :(

i'm pretty sure the 4spd also offers lsd :D

milo2223 06-11-2013 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8805913)
If it makes you actually post a thread asking the question, stay auto.

Yup that a good way to put it ;-)


Originally Posted by carsnwomen91 (Post 8805967)
thats a good way to put it.

i wanted a fully loaded maxima with a manual so thats what i got lol i like driving it but when it brakes its not like finding another 4spd auto no problem at the yard... i have 3rd gear crunch now if i shift from second at redline :(

i'm pretty sure the 4spd also offers lsd :D

Yup the i30t comes auto with VLSD ;-)


Originally Posted by matts95max (Post 8805805)
Stay auto. Done. Glad to help. Now you can focus on more important things :)

What more important things?

milo2223 06-11-2013 05:41 PM

Ok so I have decided to stay with an automatic sports sedan ;-) so does anyone needs 5speed parts!?!

iDuty 06-11-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by PowerTotheMax (Post 8805892)
I would stay auto. Although I do hate the lousy upshift / downshift between 40-50.

Even worse is the automatic stubbornly staying in third when you slow down to a creep. That makes taking off again a real drag. :laugh:

milo2223 06-11-2013 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by iDuty (Post 8806238)
Even worse is the automatic stubbornly staying in third when you slow down to a creep. That makes taking off again a real drag. :laugh:

But if you go from drive to 2nd takes off fast ;-)

aackshun 06-11-2013 06:18 PM

6MT swap

/thread.

milo2223 06-11-2013 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by aackshun (Post 8806271)
6MT swap

/thread.

CVT swap ;-)

strata400 06-11-2013 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by iDuty (Post 8806238)
Even worse is the automatic stubbornly staying in third when you slow down to a creep. That makes taking off again a real drag. :laugh:

I HATE this! :bawling:

george__ 06-11-2013 08:51 PM

if I had to deal with manual tranny everyday after stressful work day, eeek

dwapenyi 06-12-2013 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by milo2223 (Post 8806042)
.....
Yup the i30t comes auto with VLSD
..

...or the quite rare 98 I30t 5MT with VLSD, like mine:cool:

Max_Gator 06-12-2013 07:46 AM

Good call on staying auto.

I have a 5spd and, for me, it has rarely ever bothered me. Even when I had the jwt clutch.

The ability to have full control over the car's power at all times far outweighs the advantages of the auto to me.

Max_Gator 06-12-2013 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by saig (Post 8805830)
For convenience stay with auto: 1 hand on wheel, 1 hand free for other things: burger/phone/coffee/makeup-if-u-r-girl.

I think you left out the most important reason for having a hand free . . . ;)


5spd: constantly aware of current speed and gear. Need to learn and build downshift instinct, or else during close-call/emergency, you may find you attempting to maneuver the car out of danger in top gear (i.e. extremely slow).
In other words, he would need to learn how to drive a stick.

Honestly, my car is second nature to me after having driven 220,000 miles.

There is no thinking about any of those things. I am confident that I can avoid trouble better in my 5spd than in my wife's auto.

deloa84 06-12-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by saig (Post 8805830)
For convenience stay with auto: 1 hand on wheel, 1 hand free for other things: burger/phone/coffee/makeup-if-u-r-girl.

5spd: constantly aware of current speed and gear. Need to learn and build downshift instinct, or else during close-call/emergency, you may find you attempting to maneuver the car out of danger in top gear (i.e. extremely slow).

I hope you're not encouraging him to multitask while driving. Distracted driving is such a danger whether it is an auto/manual. :nono:

Anyways I like 5speed because my entire focus is on the road versus having a free hand to do something lol. Plus it is fun shifting up and down the gears lol.

matts95max 06-12-2013 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by milo2223 (Post 8806042)


What more important things?



Friends, family, relationships, life experiences.. - all the stuff that adds value and meaning to our lives. Its super easy to get caught up in doing stuff on our cars. Your time is the most valuable resource that you have. Invest it wisely. You'll never get today back and yesterday is gone forever. Only God knows how much time each of us have.

milo2223 06-12-2013 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by matts95max (Post 8806592)
Friends, family, relationships, life experiences.. - all the stuff that adds value and meaning to our lives. Its super easy to get caught up in doing stuff on our cars. Your time is the most valuable resource that you have. Invest it wisely. You'll never get today back and yesterday is gone forever. Only God knows how much time each of us have.

Amen buddy, thanx for that thought its very true... ;-) I decided just stay auto, I know its fun to drive stick but I have a datsun pickup that is stick already and is my main project so ill be shifting gears in that one and stay relaxed in my max ;-) is got plenty of power even on the auto ;-)

Thanx everyone for the advise each one of you gave me! Love this forum always provides lots of help to us new to the maximas!!!

Amerikaner83 06-12-2013 11:22 AM

:thumbsup:

Good choice

NmexMAX 06-12-2013 11:23 AM

Then again, considering how easy and affordable it is to do on a 4th gen ... :wall:

milo2223 06-12-2013 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8806679)
Then again, considering how easy and affordable it is to do on a 4th gen ... :wall:

Stop trying to change my mind LOL!! I know but like one of the members said, if I need to ask about it why boder lol so ill stay auto and just go and find a VLSD auto and have some fun too...

NmexMAX 06-12-2013 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by milo2223 (Post 8806698)
Stop trying to change my mind LOL!! I know but like one of the members said, if I need to ask about it why boder lol so ill stay auto and just go and find a VLSD auto and have some fun too...

That was me :hide:

milo2223 06-12-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8806704)
That was me :hide:

Lmao!

dwapenyi 06-12-2013 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by iDuty (Post 8806238)
Even worse is the automatic stubbornly staying in third when you slow down to a creep. That makes taking off again a real drag. :laugh:


Your Tranny fluid is tired. Drop out the old fluid, measure it (like say you dropped 3.5 Qts), replace with the same amount of new Dexron III or equivalent fluid. Enjoy your much happier to downshift tranny.

Remember: DON'T FLUSH.

Thaboywonder6588 06-12-2013 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by milo2223 (Post 8806233)
Ok so I have decided to stay with an automatic sports sedan ;-) so does anyone needs 5speed parts!?!

What Parts Do You Have For The 5 Speed Swap? I Too Have Been Thinking About It


Originally Posted by milo2223 (Post 8806233)
Ok so I have decided to stay with an automatic sports sedan ;-) so does anyone needs 5speed parts!?!

What Parts Do You Have For The 5 Speed Swap? I Too Have Been Thinking About It... PM Me

NmexMAX 06-12-2013 02:20 PM

I've got a shift fork.

Borker 06-12-2013 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by dwapenyi (Post 8806755)
Your Tranny fluid is tired. Drop out the old fluid, measure it (like say you dropped 3.5 Qts), replace with the same amount of new Dexron III or equivalent fluid. Enjoy your much happier to downshift tranny.

Remember: DON'T FLUSH.

No flush because our cars are so old? And has anyone tried flushing? I know it drys up the internals and what not but jw

dwapenyi 06-12-2013 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Borker (Post 8806839)
No flush because our cars are so old? And has anyone tried flushing? I know it drys up the internals and what not but jw


More like no-flush to any old car with an automatic tranny that may not have been maintained well. Too much a risk of blowing the whole tranny.

Drop-n-fill is the gentle way to bring some life back to older automatics.

PowerTotheMax 06-12-2013 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by dwapenyi (Post 8806755)

Your Tranny fluid is tired. Drop out the old fluid, measure it (like say you dropped 3.5 Qts), replace with the same amount of new Dexron III or equivalent fluid. Enjoy your much happier to downshift tranny.

Remember: DON'T FLUSH.

Actually it not downshifting at a rolling stop is normal behavior in 4th gen AT. To get it into 1st you must come to a complete stop. Pretty annoying though.

milo2223 06-12-2013 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Thaboywonder6588 (Post 8806785)
What Parts Do You Have For The 5 Speed Swap? I Too Have Been Thinking About It



What Parts Do You Have For The 5 Speed Swap? I Too Have Been Thinking About It... PM Me

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