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QuakerJ 10-06-2018 02:57 PM

Replacing Rear Struts
 
My rear struts are shot, rear end is all over the place when I hit a bump going around a corner. Pretty dangerous condition I'd say! Car is a '96 Maxima GLE auto w/ 255k.

Can someone give me a run down of the procedure for replacing these? I've done the fronts before and it wasn't bad. Looking quickly at the rear, I wasn't able to find where the strut bolts up top. Looked like perhaps you access it from the trunk, but I didn't see it there. I must be missing something.

I have new struts and mounts (a splayed rubber bushing is what it looks like) ready to go. Is there anything else I need? Also, will I need an alignment afterward? Any help you guys can provide on the subject would be much appreciated!

Fakie J Farkerton 10-06-2018 03:47 PM

It's 3 bolts total per strut
2 upper in the trunk and you'll see the large lower..if the lower bolt spins on you, wedge in a flathead
Super simple

If you rather work from the backseat you can remove the backseat and the metal divider..then the struts are right there

maximaxi 10-06-2018 04:41 PM

You have to pull back the liner in the trunk to see the top nuts.

Monroe quick struts are awesome :)

You do not need an alignment after replacing the rear struts.

QuakerJ 10-06-2018 05:26 PM

You guys are awesome, didn't realize I had to pull back the trunk liner, makes sense now.

Would have gone the quick-strut route, but Rockauto had good name brand struts & mounts on closeout at the time.

Replacing the rear is the same as the front I assume? Remove strut assembly from car, compress spring, remove top nut, and then go in reverse with new parts?

MichMaxFan 10-06-2018 06:26 PM

I just did this on my 2000. If you look in the 5th forums you should find one with my comments on my struggles. I hate Monroe for issues with the quick struts and I had "FUN" swapping just the strut this time around.

In theory its easy but my experience was a super duper pooper hastle.

Found it...read this:

https://maxima.org/forums/5th-generation-maxima-2000-2003/702424-strut-problem.html

maximaxi 10-06-2018 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by QuakerJ (Post 9184777)
Replacing the rear is the same as the front I assume? Remove strut assembly from car, compress spring, remove top nut, and then go in reverse with new parts?

correct


reallywildstuff 10-17-2018 11:04 AM

/THREADJACK:

I'm about to install Monroe Quick Struts 171293 in the rear.

Do I need to rent a spring compressor to install these complete assemblies?

Thanks - Brian A

/THREADJACK OFF

maximaxi 10-17-2018 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by reallywildstuff (Post 9185402)
/THREADJACK:

I'm about to install Monroe Quick Struts 171293 in the rear.

Do I need to rent a spring compressor to install these complete assemblies?

Thanks - Brian A

/THREADJACK OFF

No, you do not need a spring compressor with quick struts :)


KP11520 10-17-2018 11:59 AM

Save your old springs (mark right and left) and assorted hardware from your OEM struts. In case you decide to go back with new struts and the other OEM new parts that wear.

I had Monroe quick struts and then Moog problem solver struts. They all sucked and quickly got real noisy as the spring insulators gave up the ghost pretty fast. Strut mounts and bearings too on the fronts. IME, junk.

Back to OEM everything except Koni STR-T struts (orange). NICE!

reallywildstuff 10-17-2018 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by KP11520 (Post 9185406)
Save your old springs (mark right and left) and assorted hardware from your OEM struts. In case you decide to go back with new struts and the other OEM new parts that wear.

I had Monroe quick struts and then Moog problem solver struts. They all sucked and quickly got real noisy as the spring insulators gave up the ghost pretty fast. Strut mounts and bearings too on the fronts. IME, junk.

Back to OEM everything except Koni STR-T struts (orange). NICE!

What I have on the car now isn't OEM - it's another Quickstrut, installed by the PO.

Got OEM part numbers that you mate up with those Koni Orange struts ?

Thanks

maximaxi 10-17-2018 05:50 PM

@RWS, cheap no-name quick struts are garbage, but Monroe's quick struts are much better.

The cheap Chinese brands like Unity, Leacree, etc. rarely last 10k.

When installing the new quick struts, install the top nuts first. Once the top nuts are on, then get a long screwdriver and turn the bottom eye until it is at the correct angle for the bottom bolt to go in.

reallywildstuff 10-17-2018 08:43 PM

/THREADJACK _again_

I bought two Monroe 171293 rear quickstruts from O'Reilly. They each look _different_ from each other - pics attached. One has a copper-colored, looks-like-a-firing-cap bushing, and one has a white rubber bushing. They both have bump stops inside the boot (although those stops are different colors, not shown).

I didn't expect these not to match - although maybe I should have, as this experience matches precisely my experience buying Monroe Quickstruts for the front (only my second post on maxima.org, *sniff*):
https://maxima.org/forums/4th-genera...t-numbers.html

O'Reilly is going to order two more for me that I will look at tomorrow. I would of course like to install two matching units.

"Which unit is correct / "more correct"?

Thanks - BrianA in Houston


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....a062922514.jpgwhite bushing overview
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....ee39e201e1.jpgwhite bushing close up
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....a85fcaee65.jpgmetal bushing overview
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....3e2b67f236.jpgmetal bushing closeup

/THREADJACK OFF

KP11520 10-18-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by reallywildstuff (Post 9185413)
What I have on the car now isn't OEM - it's another Quickstrut, installed by the PO.

Got OEM part numbers that you mate up with those Koni Orange struts ?

Thanks

https://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/part...agram=431_A002

Below is what all new OEM front struts (except original springs and new Koni Struts) look like:

reallywildstuff 10-18-2018 03:24 PM

Photos of two more new in box quickstruts. They match each other in that their bumpstops are outside the boots - and that they both have the metal collar, not the white rubber bushing.

I think I need the bumpstop inside the boot, and the metal collar. Kinda hard to believe that Im having to sort thru **** rebuild jobs.

I shall await yet two more examples to arrive at the store and examine those.

This post is making Monroe Quickstruts look bad. Also - those OEM springs in the pic w the Konis dont look anything like any of these springs


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....7210050e9c.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....e8118c87a7.jpg

maximaxi 10-18-2018 04:33 PM

There is nothing wrong with the new struts you just posted :)

The Koni pic that KP posted is of the front struts, not the rear you bought, which is why the difference.

KP11520 10-18-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by maximaxi (Post 9185487)
There is nothing wrong with the new struts you just posted :)

The Koni pic that KP posted is of the front struts, not the rear you bought, which is why the difference.

What is shameful is the spring insulators. They will be short lived and the metal on metal noise will be annoying as hell eventually.

If you look at the picture of my struts assemblies, you'll see the heavy walled heat shrink tubing I used for spring insulators. Then CS_AR followed my footsteps and did the exact same thing. It's an 1/8" thick and shrunk to be one with the springs where the noise happens. Other than that, the back assemblies RWS bought will be fine. It's when the fronts breakdown that the differences become more apparent.

I did 110K on three sets of "other" strut assemblies or parts. Never again. I will say this, it was expensive. About $900 with me doing everything. But everything is new except the springs. And what a difference. Even the front wheels turn and return easier with the Nissan Strut Bearings. From enough bad experience, I've circled back around to an OEM parts strut assembly snob. LOL (except struts and/or springs and using the better spring insulation heat shrink tubing)

I also use home cut 1/8" sheet neoprene strut to body gaskets for more cushioning and quiet.

maximaxi 10-18-2018 05:56 PM

My front Monroe quick struts are doing fine. Granted, they have only been on the car for 6 months. No metal to metal noise :)

reallywildstuff 10-18-2018 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by maximaxi (Post 9185487)
There is nothing wrong with the new struts you just posted :)

I dont know about that...isnt the bump stop supposed to be inside the boot?

the bump stops shown today are of a wider diameter than the boots - thus the boots cant be slipped up around them.

KP11520 10-18-2018 08:28 PM

Don't worry, you won't see the bump stops when the weight of the car sits on the assemblies!


Originally Posted by reallywildstuff (Post 9185499)


I dont know about that...isnt the bump stop supposed to be inside the boot?

the bump stops shown today are of a wider diameter than the boots - thus the boots cant be slipped up around them.


reallywildstuff 10-19-2018 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by KP11520 (Post 9185512)
Don't worry, you won't see the bump stops when the weight of the car sits on the assemblies!

Well that may be. I am still going to wait for the next two to show up @ O'Reilly's before making a decision.

Out of 4 total examples:
3 came with a metal bushing, and one with white plastic
Two had bump stops inside the boots, two outside
the two with stops outside the boots had different bump stops than each other, and different boots than the other two examples

All four of these Monroe Quickstruts arrived assembled in a different fashion than each other.

One time, when I talked noise about a Bosch MAF on maxima.org, the Bosch Corporation actually sought me out on their own and arranged for a full refund.

I wonder if anything like that will ever happen again ?

reallywildstuff 10-19-2018 04:22 PM

Im at OReilly. Ive got one more of each kind (copper metal bushing, white plastic bushing) in front of me.

which one should I get?

reallywildstuff 10-19-2018 05:08 PM

I got the one w the metal collar.

The boot didnt fit over the white plastic bushings, so I chose the metal instead.

MichMaxFan 10-20-2018 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by maximaxi (Post 9185425)

When installing the new quick struts, install the top nuts first. Once the top nuts are on, then get a long screwdriver and turn the bottom eye until it is at the correct angle for the bottom bolt to go in.

I don't believe this is correct. And I say this because the spring is pushing against the top and bottom and the top nut is tight as well. Forcing a turn is difficult at best and when I swapped my strut it specifically stated not to force it into position at the lower mounting location.

Unless,of course, you have the spring compressed.

maximaxi 10-20-2018 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by MichMaxFan (Post 9185647)
I don't believe this is correct. And I say this because the spring is pushing against the top and bottom and the top nut is tight as well. Forcing a turn is difficult at best and when I swapped my strut it specifically stated not to force it into position at the lower mounting location.

Unless,of course, you have the spring compressed.

It was actually very easy. On top of that, it was less than a quarter turn required, anyway.

There is a bearing in the top mount that specifically allows rotation, so you can turn it without the spring being compressed.

reallywildstuff 10-21-2018 08:46 PM

I got this done, Thank You. This is probably the second pair of rear quickstruts on this 120k mile car. The passenger side was leaking badly...

QuakerJ - sorry to whore your thread.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....87fd1a5278.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....263075a632.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....0b352c7e94.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....5aeca43c6b.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....3059f7e49a.jpg

KP11520 10-21-2018 10:30 PM

Looks Great! I bet the car feels more stable, if the old ones were bad!

So, you know the two top bolts need to be torqued to 15 ft pounds. If you did that when the car was jacked off the ground, go ahead and retorque them with the wheels on the car and the weight of the car on the ground.

Smooth ridin ahead!

reallywildstuff 10-24-2018 11:02 AM

There is no core deposit on the Monroe Quickstruts I just bought/installed.

What am i supposed to do with the two old totally blown strut assemblies? They were installed 1/23/2009 and 60k miles ago by an independent shop, and for the previous owner.

These old units have a different number of coil springs showing than the new Monroe units.

Is there anything of value worth holding on to on the used assemblies?

Thanks -

BrianA in Houston

KP11520 10-24-2018 12:09 PM

Toss 'em and happy sailing!

wxm 10-27-2018 11:58 PM

I found going through the back seat is much easier and you don’t need to pull the liner.


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