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multiplexor Jun 27, 2002 06:40 PM

Guy in GTI burns by me like i'm standing still....
 
I was actually very shocked at how he passed me so quickly. I was getting ready to jump on the highway when i saw him pull up fast behind me. No prob, i accelerate a bit faster around the turn hearing my tires start to screech. Once straight, i floor it and get ready to merge onto the highway, meanwhile he's up my a$$ right away. I downshift to 3rd and floor it again, once we get on the merge, he just burns passed me like i'm standing still. I was literally shocked at how fast he just went..... car was tiny though, and he must have done alot of stuff to his car to make it that fast.

I redlined almost every gear, no go... he was gone. When i do catchup to him, i want to pull up close to him to see what he might have, no go again... he jumps into the fast lane and speeds up close to a car, decides to jump on the shoulder and pass the guy that way.
At that point i saw ok, i'm staying back here, to dangerous fer me.

DigitalTexan2u Jun 27, 2002 06:45 PM

Congrats...you just met the imfamous chipped 1.8T:D

JustTry Jun 27, 2002 06:56 PM


Originally posted by DigitalTexan2u
Congrats...you just met the imfamous chipped 1.8T:D

i know the chip in the 1.8t engine adds major HP, anyone have the stats on one of those? (1/4 mile, 0-60, top speed) ??:confused:

mzmtg Jun 27, 2002 06:58 PM

Just a chip, no other mods, takes them up to about 200HP and 245 lbft of torque...

Jamsan Jun 27, 2002 07:01 PM

thats good enuff for low 14's hi 13's :(

NYCe MaXiMa Jun 27, 2002 07:03 PM

holy ****
those things are fast.

multiplexor Jun 27, 2002 07:09 PM


Originally posted by DigitalTexan2u
Congrats...you just met the imfamous chipped 1.8T:D
holy crap... that fast huh... I heard of a chip out that can up the power... but that much... i gotta give props to that car cause damn it took off fast!

95emeraldgxe Jun 27, 2002 07:19 PM


Originally posted by multiplexor


holy crap... that fast huh... I heard of a chip out that can up the power... but that much... i gotta give props to that car cause damn it took off fast!

dam - makes you wonder why volkswagon holds back in the first place

dobiegillis Jun 27, 2002 07:23 PM

What does this Chip do? My friend has a 1.8T in his 2k2 Jetta but it is only 184hp I think. And I'm sure I can take him even though we're both 5spds.

Jamsan Jun 27, 2002 07:57 PM

i hear its kinda like a turbo timer....it just bumps up the boost on the turbo and a few other things

NYCe MaXiMa Jun 27, 2002 08:07 PM

are you guys sure about all this?

this is at the flywheel correct?
also.. that's probably good for mid 14s.. no?
Looking at similar gains from the common bolt-ons on the maxima..

Multiplexor.. is your max a 5 spd? any mods?
that GTI could have had more than just a chip

multiplexor Jun 27, 2002 09:07 PM


Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
are you guys sure about all this?

this is at the flywheel correct?
also.. that's probably good for mid 14s.. no?
Looking at similar gains from the common bolt-ons on the maxima..

Multiplexor.. is your max a 5 spd? any mods?
that GTI could have had more than just a chip

yeah 5spd... no mods yet only the Y coming soon...
for now i was 5spd stock.
him burning me that fast is making me look at 1.8's for the heck of it...
gotta learn more now :)

sil SE Jun 27, 2002 09:23 PM

congrats to me! i got beat by one a few montsh back and im STILL thinking about it
a jetta 1.8t it was though.
not such a rare beast now i know. man i was going fast but he was a lil faster! :eek:

Linkage23 Jun 27, 2002 10:10 PM

My Roommate...
 
My roommate just got one and they do 60 in 6.5 seconds and the 1/4 in like 13.8-14.1

He has just gotten the chip and it bumped his HP to a whopping 230+. That car is way quick and the potential is nearly limitless with that 1.8T. Good luck in racing one...

The Limited series comes with 18s and a 6 spd shifter. Damn cheap, fast cars!:mad:

chigga Jun 27, 2002 11:09 PM

damn i didn't know vw was packin like that. good to know, now i know to try and race one after i do my mods to see for maself....

bacid Jun 27, 2002 11:50 PM

1.8t is a wicked engine..

anything that is turboed from the factory has literally unlimited tuning potential..

DigitalTexan2u Jun 28, 2002 05:03 AM

Just look how the GTI rapes this Civic!


http://www.gti-vr6.net/GTI_vs_Civic/




:D :D

Jamsan Jun 28, 2002 05:20 AM

:laugh: :laugh:

multiplexor Jun 28, 2002 05:49 AM

i had posted on another local board see if anyone knew the guy...
one guy knows him by his trademark "pass on the shoulder"
yikes...

:)

84 black rabbit

things are sick! hehe

95maxrider Jun 28, 2002 08:38 AM

that chip would probably explain why a 1.8t walked me badly a few months ago. damn, i might have to trade in the max for one of those. who wants to convince me?

Nealoc187 Jun 28, 2002 09:55 AM

A chip for a 1.8T is not anything like a turbo timer. A turbo timer is just that, a TIMER. All a turbo timer does is allow the car to stay running at idle after the ignition is switched off so that the turbo cools down properly and you don't coke it.

A chipped 1.8T would have increased boost, and THAT is how they get such huge gains from a chip whereas an N/A car will see gains only a fraction of the 1.8Ts.

A chipped 1.8T would walk all over a stock Max.

BTW redlining every gear is not the best way to race... our cars don't even come close to making good power all the way to redline.

pro Jun 28, 2002 10:50 AM

I never heard of this "chip". Can you add it to a turbo charged maxima?
Paul

Nealoc187 Jun 28, 2002 11:50 AM


Originally posted by pro
I never heard of this "chip". Can you add it to a turbo charged maxima?
Paul

No.

hlh0501 Jun 28, 2002 12:22 PM

two nights ago i was rolling around with my friends mod'd 99 contour svt w/ 75shot.... gti came up on us, both downshifted, the gti was gone sooo fast and blew flames out the exhaust on shift, and you could smell the fuel/nos as he blew away from us soo fast

_DRU_ Jun 28, 2002 12:31 PM

I raced one of those special edition GTIs not too long ago. I was with my cousin, who has a GTI himself, and we pulled up behind a Gold GTI with DTMs , we were in the turn left lane. So i revved up on him and he revved back. The light turned green and he turns with the tires screeching, me too.. by second gear i was right on his tail and started to pass him in 3rd, we could hear his BOV but he didnt seem incredibly fast... i took him. We both had one passenger, he had some girl and i had one skinny cousin. My cousin was suprised, as was I, and the guy in the GTI did too.

ILoveMyMax Jun 28, 2002 12:38 PM

can we say turbo...yes turbo makes cars go fast........give us a turbo. we go fast too :p

pro Jun 28, 2002 12:41 PM


Originally posted by ILoveMyMax
can we say turbo...yes turbo makes cars go fast........give us a turbo. we go fast too :p
I think nissan should have a recall where they give us 3K to put turbo in our cars.:p

BlackCat Jun 28, 2002 01:14 PM

My work buddy, who drives an A4, and I were discussing mods and he told me of this chip that will give his ride more guts. He showed me the dyno chart off of the web and I can see that it mainly helps their low to mid range very well but tops off after that.
The other neat thing it has is that it has a switch so that the chip can flip over to stock mode when it comes time for dealership maintenance visits. That way the owner won't void his/her warranty!

Jeff92se Jun 28, 2002 01:18 PM

The stage 1 chip for any of the Audi 1.8t engines is a nice upgrade. But after about stage II, the stock turbo is too small to support high rpm/load efficency. That's why this turbo engine can have an almost linear torque curve from 2000rpm up(stock engine).


Originally posted by BlackCat
My work buddy, who drives an A4, and I were discussing mods and he told me of this chip that will give his ride more guts. He showed me the dyno chart off of the web and I can see that it mainly helps their low to mid range very well but tops off after that.

CSever05 Jun 28, 2002 01:43 PM

A chip increases boost/fuel curves throughout the rev-range. A lot of chips increase boost to the point of sacrificing longevity for more power, which is something these GTi's are probably doing.

Clint

Jeff92se Jun 28, 2002 01:47 PM

I disagree. In this particular case, I believe Audi detuned the 1.8T engines so it wouldn't cannibalize sales from the 2.8 liter V6 versions. If the cheaper 1.8t made the same power, who would pay more for the V6? In Europe the 1.8t engines already make 200hp stock so it's not case of stressing the engine more than it was designed to(at least for the stage I chip anyway) From what I've come to read, this 1.8t engine is a very stout powerplant. ARP offers their stage V that puts this engine well over 320hp. Not bad for a 1.8 liter engine.


Originally posted by CSever05
A chip increases boost/fuel curves throughout the rev-range. A lot of chips increase boost to the point of sacrificing longevity for more power, which is something these GTi's are probably doing.

Clint


CSever05 Jun 28, 2002 02:11 PM


I believe Audi detuned the 1.8T engines so it wouldn't cannibalize sales from the 2.8 liter V6 versions. If the cheaper 1.8t made the same power, who would pay more for the V6? In Europe the 1.8t engines already make 200hp stock so it's not case of stressing the engine more than it was designed to(at least for the stage I chip anyway) From what I've come to read, this 1.8t engine is a very stout powerplant. ARP offers their stage V that puts this engine well over 320hp. Not bad for a 1.8 liter engine.


I didn't know that.. 320 hp?? That's DAMN impressive.

Jeff92se Jun 28, 2002 02:40 PM

Oops. Stage III+ is about 310hp. Sorry.

http://www.goapr.com/products/stage3_long.html


Originally posted by CSever05


I didn't know that.. 320 hp?? That's DAMN impressive. [/B]

gtr_rider Jun 28, 2002 03:07 PM


Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe


dam - makes you wonder why volkswagon holds back in the first place


sales... every year they probably bump the boost up some and charge some more..;)

Gary95 Jun 28, 2002 03:41 PM


Originally posted by Jeff92se
I disagree. In this particular case, I believe Audi detuned the 1.8T engines so it wouldn't cannibalize sales from the 2.8 liter V6 versions. If the cheaper 1.8t made the same power, who would pay more for the V6? In Europe the 1.8t engines already make 200hp stock so it's not case of stressing the engine more than it was designed to(at least for the stage I chip anyway) From what I've come to read, this 1.8t engine is a very stout powerplant. ARP offers their stage V that puts this engine well over 320hp. Not bad for a 1.8 liter engine.

The base 1.8t engine used for the Audi TT produces something like 180hp. The "super tuned" 1.8t version Audi uses for the pricier TT churns out 225hp. All factory. Same basic engine. Must be a chip, right? But y'know factory will never fully exploit it. I wouldn't be surprised if you could tune it to over 300hp... but what are the consequences? Is it just reduced fuel economy? And how expensive is that Stage V?

multiplexor Jun 28, 2002 07:06 PM

damn that 1.8L engine has some serious potential and power...
must be a very very good engine... wow!

Dave B Jun 28, 2002 10:04 PM

There's lots of misinformation flying around here. First off, the "Limited" Edition GTI isn't out yet and when it does arrive later this summer, they will be extremely rare and they really won't terribly quick (low 15s at 93mph or so).

A "chipped" 1.8T does indeed make 200hp and 245ft/lbs torque BUT that's at the FLYWHEEL. So take those numbers times the 15% drivetrain loss and you're looking at 170fwhp and 208fwtq. Keep in mind the GTI and Jettas are also heavy cars too (3100lbs). Simply put, the "chipped" 1.8Ts don't have a huge advantage. The 1.8Ts DON'T have blow-off valves either. They have diverter valves that are vented back into the intake therefore you don't get much of that cool "pssssssst" sound on shifts. There are a lot of low 14 and 13 second 1.8Ts out there, but most modded and chipped 1.8Ts are stuck DEEP into the 14s. IMO, a chipped 1.8T is very competitive with any NA modded 5 speed VQ. I know I've never had any problems with them. The new 180hp 1.8Ts seem to have some problems with chipping and don't seem to make nearly the gains as the older 150hp 1.8Ts did. Obviously VW/Audi upped the boost on the new verisons therefore new motors don't make the gains. There are little differences between the old and new engines, but it is mostly in the boost and intake.

It is very true you can make a lot of power with the older 1.8Ts with a new turbo and intercooler, but they aren't near the beasts like the 2.2 turbo Scooby or Diamond Star 2.0 turbo. The 1.8Ts lack the ultimate torque and topend HP. The 1.8T seems to be limited to around a 350hp while the others can exceed 450 quite easily.


Dave

KSU1998 Jun 29, 2002 10:09 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^

that's what I was going to say...



Listen to Dave B

One of my girlfriends has a 1.8t jetta...and it is quick but not a awesome force. I guess I have no respect for the chip til I get beat.?

D

Nealoc187 Jun 29, 2002 10:35 PM

If by "limited edition GTI" we are talking about the GTI 337, they are out. My friend has one, I've ridden in it and raced it. They come stock with recaros, 18" bbs wheels, and other cool stuff. They are no faster than a regular 1.8T GTI. Low 15s with a good driver.

NATE98GLE Jun 29, 2002 10:42 PM


Originally posted by chigga
damn i didn't know vw was packin like that. good to know, now i know to try and race one after i do my mods to see for maself....
GTI's are sick.....the chip adds 40+ to the 1.8T and adds a measely 8-10 to the VR6. But yet both have close to the same stock HP. Goes to show you how much a change in boost makes in the 1.8T.


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