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KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 07:24 PM

New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 
Well, all I have to say is that I was shocked.., since everyone said I couldn't do it with my 19's....

60 Ft = 2.25
330 = 6.273
1/8 = 9.577
mph = 75.64
1000 = 12.4
1/4 = 14.823
Mph = 94.100

My previous best was 14.88 @ 93.33

This was done with nothing removed, My 19's with Nitto 555's which spin all through first gear. No BS track tinkering....

Just a quick extra piece of info, I swapped with an Injen for one run, because my KN is dirty as hell , and I got a 15.3 @ 89 MPH !
:mad:
So I went back to KN..

I did 8 runs total. 5 were in 14.90-14.98 range.. and one 15.3 ( with injen )..one 14.89.. and my best run......

Happy to see my 19's can hang ! Now its time for Y pipe , catback and some SPRAY :naughty:

BTW, a lot of West coast ORG members were there.... who saw it, and my best run is on video.. Hope to get it soon !
This was at California Speedway in Fontana !

http://images.cardomain.com/installs...67_92_full.jpg

Larrio Dec 15, 2002 07:28 PM

i am the proud owner of the injen FILTER that kloogy used for that 15.3. :D

MetaOrbit Dec 15, 2002 07:29 PM

Damn.

14 seconds with your 19"s?!

I'm impressed.

cwally Dec 15, 2002 07:30 PM

Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 

Originally posted by kloogy
Well, all I have to say is that I was shocked.., since everyone said I couldn't do it with my 19's....

60 Ft = 2.25
330 = 6.273
1/8 = 9.577
mph = 75.64
1000 = 12.4
1/4 = 14.823
Mph = 94.100

My previous best was 14.88 @ 93.33

This was done with nothing removed, My 19's with Nitto 555's which spin all through first gear. No BS track tinkering....

Just a quick extra piece of info, I swapped with an Injen for one run, because my KN is dirty as hell , and I got a 15.3 @ 89 MPH !
:mad:
So I went back to KN..

I did 8 runs total. 5 were in 14.90-14.98 range.. and one 15.3 ( with injen )..one 14.89.. and my best run......

Happy to see my 19's can hang ! Now its time for Y pipe , catback and some SPRAY :naughty:

BTW, a lot of West coast ORG members were there.... who saw it, and my best run is on video.. Hope to get it soon !
This was at California Speedway in Fontana !

http://images.cardomain.com/installs...67_92_full.jpg

Your car sucks ball$... hahah


I was there and it was an awesome run... It was good seeing everyone

chinaonnitrous1 Dec 15, 2002 07:31 PM


Originally posted by Larrio
i am the proud owner of the injen FILTER that kloogy used for that 15.3. :D
:wavey:

Jaws Dec 15, 2002 07:31 PM


Originally posted by Larrio
i am the proud owner of the injen FILTER that kloogy used for that 15.3. :D
Are you putting in back in your car, or the garbage?:gotme:

cwally Dec 15, 2002 07:32 PM


Originally posted by Jaws


Are you putting in back in your car, or the garbage?:gotme:

hahaha hey larrio... you on AIM?

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 07:37 PM


Originally posted by Larrio
i am the proud owner of the injen FILTER that kloogy used for that 15.3.
Thanks Larry. I was in dire need for one. It's not your fault... It's Injen ! ... Thanks for your help ! ;)

Another great MCC west coast meet !:D

Maximam Dec 15, 2002 07:54 PM

Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 

Originally posted by kloogy




Just a quick extra piece of info, I swapped with an Injen for one run, because my KN is dirty as hell , and I got a 15.3 @ 89 MPH !
:mad:

Are you serious? DAMN! That Injen makes me wonder.

Very nice times! Those 2k2s are fast!

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 08:48 PM

Re: Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 

Originally posted by Maximam


Are you serious? DAMN! That Injen makes me wonder.

Very nice times! Those 2k2s are fast!

All I can tell you is that its documented on a timeslip... that was the only run that I didnt hit a 14 on ....

Larrio Dec 15, 2002 08:52 PM

Re: Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 

Originally posted by Maximam


Are you serious? DAMN! That Injen makes me wonder.

Very nice times! Those 2k2s are fast!

well, it's not really the intake itself.. but rather that puny little filter. The K&n on the frankencar is twice the size (canister looking), while the k&n on the injen is a small cone shaped velocity stack

kloogy lost 4 mph and .5 sec in the qtr mile just by switching an intake. Sometimes its the small things that count.

cwally Dec 15, 2002 08:52 PM

Re: Re: Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 

Originally posted by Larrio


well, it's not really the intake itself.. but rather that puny little filter. The K&n on the frankencar is twice the size (canister looking), while the k&n on the injen is a small cone shaped velocity stack

kloogy lost 4 mph and .5 sec in the qtr mile just by switching an intake. Sometimes its the small things that count.

You are a strange little person...

92 TOP-END MAX Dec 15, 2002 09:02 PM

19's AND ON FUMES!!!! DOING 14.8!!!! I SEE U BEEN HOLDING BACK ON TOP SECRET INFO!!!!:thumbsup:...THANKS FOR THE INFO, NOW I'M GONNA BE RUNNING 14.8 ALSO....HAHA....

MEET A COUPLE OF THE ORG. MEMBERS ITS WAS COOL!!!

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 09:03 PM

Pics of our meet..... If you guys want to see.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cwally200...c=ph%26.view=t

Thanks to Cwally !;)

Leave Larry alone !, Go unwrap your Tamales :naughty:....

cwally Dec 15, 2002 09:07 PM


Originally posted by kloogy
Pics of our meet..... If you guys want to see.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cwally200...c=ph%26.view=t

Thanks to Cwally !;)

Leave Larry alone !, Go unwrap your Tamales :naughty:....

Your car sucks... I bet you cant run a 14.5!!!

Thats minutes of course! I was trapping at 130. But I was on the freeway.

SG01MaxSE Dec 15, 2002 09:09 PM


Originally posted by Larrio
i am the proud owner of the injen FILTER that kloogy used for that 15.3. :D
You just swapped out the FILTER, right? Not the entire intake?

If the filter alone caused gains like that, you can believe there will be a new one on my car TOMORROW!!! :laugh:

MichaelAE Dec 15, 2002 09:09 PM

What's with picture 41? Get a little distracted from the track?

cwally Dec 15, 2002 09:11 PM


Originally posted by MichaelAE
What's with picture 41? Get a little distracted from the track?
;) Hmm I didn't even see that. I must have hit the picture button by accident. And by chance., it was her azz...:laugh:

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 09:23 PM

She was on our NUTZ all day.... did you see the size of the GUT on her boyfriend.. ! She wanted to see my D- Pipe !!:naughty:

dmontzsta Dec 15, 2002 09:29 PM

I was there.

He raged on a turbo integra that was slicked up, you just see the 19s spinning the integra was like WTF??? keep in mind this was at Fontana which has around a 1500ft elevation, if he were closer to sea level, he could be doing 14.6

Larrio Dec 15, 2002 10:13 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 

Originally posted by cwally


You are a strange little person...

friggin thug.. no fa-ried rice fo yu!

BigDogJonx Dec 15, 2002 10:18 PM

19s.... That is all I have to say. Its all a myth on the weight and crap on the wheels.

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 10:24 PM


Originally posted by BigDogJonx
19s.... That is all I have to say. Its all a myth on the weight and crap on the wheels.
According to my elevation at the track.. I could have been in the low 14's..... I juist have to give a Bronx Cheer to all the big rim haters !...:laugh:

dmontzsta Dec 15, 2002 10:31 PM

I would like to see you slap on your stocks for one round at the track. I bet you will shave about .2 off.

Maximam Dec 15, 2002 10:31 PM


Originally posted by kloogy


According to my elevation at the track.. I could have been in the low 14's..... I juist have to give a Bronx Cheer to all the big rim haters !...:laugh:

Is there any site that corrects 1/4 mile times for elevation?

found it:
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/altitude.html

Weasel Dec 15, 2002 10:33 PM


Originally posted by BigDogJonx
19s.... That is all I have to say. Its all a myth on the weight and crap on the wheels.
Absolutely not true. His car ran well on heavy rims but remember, they're not significantly heavier than the stockers he ran on before. Swap in some lightweight 17s and he'd cut time in the 1/4 if the car doesn't boil the tread off. As for looks, well... 17s gotta step aside on that one. :)

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 10:37 PM


Originally posted by Weasel
Absolutely not true. His car ran well on heavy rims but remember, they're not significantly heavier than the stockers he ran on before. Swap in some lightweight 17s and he'd cut time in the 1/4 if the car doesn't boil the tread off. As for looks, well... 17s gotta step aside on that one. :)
I will take the 19's... do a search.. everyone swore I would lose at least .3 sec with them... Im not saying , Go get 19's... Just proving a point...;)

This is a 2K2....

02MaximizedVQ Dec 15, 2002 10:40 PM

Kloogy, do you happen to have a part number for that K@N air filter?

KLOOGY Dec 15, 2002 11:10 PM

Im using the one that came with the Berk Intake.. But Im switching to Apexi from Frankencar !

Weasel Dec 16, 2002 12:01 AM


Originally posted by kloogy
Im not saying , Go get 19's... Just proving a point...;)
...and you :bill: a lot of people while doing it. Nice run.

Blu Dec 16, 2002 04:27 AM

were any of the pics good... All I looked at was #41:naughty:

wild willy Dec 16, 2002 04:46 AM

Nice runs kloog...Every time I see your wheels I get a woody

Padsy Dec 16, 2002 06:33 AM

:thumbsup:

Dave B Dec 16, 2002 07:58 AM


Originally posted by kloogy


According to my elevation at the track.. I could have been in the low 14's..... I juist have to give a Bronx Cheer to all the big rim haters !...:laugh:

Congrats on the new best.

As for your 1500' elevation, it does hurt your ET/MPH, but it's not going to drop you from a 14.82@94mph down to a 14.2@97mph. Running at sea level will drop you about .2 seconds and add 1mph.

That's very interesting about the Injen. What was you timeslip like with the Injen? If you 60' was in the 2.4 range vs the 2.2 range, that can easily account for an increase of .4-.5 second in the 1/4 mile.

Your 19s probably aren't significantly heavier than your overweight stock rims and that's why you're not seeing a detirmental effect on ET/MPH. The EVO 5s weigh ~28lbs in a 19" rim. The tires probably weigh 24-26lbs so you're looking at a combo of 52-54lbs. The stock weight is already a whopping 52lbs (new tires)!!!! There is more inertial weight further from the rim, but it's not terribly significant. Given the same 60', I think you would be marginally quicker with the 17s though. There's no denying the physics involved. On a lower torque producing car like the 3.0 VQ and VE, heavier rims will make things worse. If heavy rims with super low profile tires were so great for drag racing, serious drag racers would be running them.


Dave

Shaydz Dec 16, 2002 11:35 AM

Kloogy, those rims are beautiful. It's nice to know they don't affect times as much as previously thought.

My last run was 14.8 with stock rims and Injen in my auto 2k2 (with a 1/2 tank of gas, spinning potenzas and wrong pressure). I couldn't correct any thing as I couldn't get more runs in - threw a SES from the throtttle respose recall thing they did wrong.

Everyone ran better as the night went on , track heated up and temps dropped. I was :sad: . Really wanted to get a better run in.


If you put the Injen (pipe and all) on for 1 run, wouldn't the ECU need time to adjust for optimal air / fuel ratio? I thought that was one of the problems with dynoing Injen off then Injen on (besides the lack of a real-like forced air across the front of the car.
I'm not trying to justify, just bringing up other reasons for the dismal time with the Injen. Also, what was the temp? I think the Injen is more effective in summer than winter - in winter the temp differences are less.

Just wondering.

Larrio Dec 16, 2002 11:54 AM


Originally posted by Shaydz
Kloogy, those rims are beautiful. It's nice to know they don't affect times as much as previously thought.

My last run was 14.8 with stock rims and Injen in my auto 2k2 (with a 1/2 tank of gas, spinning potenzas and wrong pressure). I couldn't correct any thing as I couldn't get more runs in - threw a SES from the throtttle respose recall thing they did wrong.

Everyone ran better as the night went on , track heated up and temps dropped. I was :sad: . Really wanted to get a better run in.


If you put the Injen (pipe and all) on for 1 run, wouldn't the ECU need time to adjust for optimal air / fuel ratio? I thought that was one of the problems with dynoing Injen off then Injen on (besides the lack of a real-like forced air across the front of the car.
I'm not trying to justify, just bringing up other reasons for the dismal time with the Injen. Also, what was the temp? I think the Injen is more effective in summer than winter - in winter the temp differences are less.

Just wondering.

he only swapped out the frankencar filter for the injen filter for that one run

Craig Mack Dec 16, 2002 12:59 PM

Kloogy,

Why didn't you run a few times without a filter? A quick run down the 1/4th mile track wouldn't hurt anything. Besides, your MAF is still there. I wonder what kind of amazing times you could have had, had you ran without your filter.

QUE2K2GLE Dec 16, 2002 01:51 PM

Re: New Track Times.. 2K2 on 19's auto ...
 
Your car is lookin good and congrats on the great runs!*

maximadave Dec 16, 2002 02:12 PM

nice run kloogy:) Sorry I haven't been around much...I've been too busy at work plus they have locked down the computer at work for internet use:mad: So I can only use my computer at home now....

Hope to see you this weekend for the amp install...

Dave

1FSTMAX Dec 16, 2002 02:49 PM


Originally posted by Craig Mack
Kloogy,

Why didn't you run a few times without a filter? A quick run down the 1/4th mile track wouldn't hurt anything. Besides, your MAF is still there. I wonder what kind of amazing times you could have had, had you ran without your filter.

I don't think that would have been a good idea, since 2k2-3 MAF are very sensitive.


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