The Stillen intermediate pipe that Avalon Racing sells is suppose to make 20hp and its $200.
I called Stillen today and they told me that they don't have the intermediate pipe for the 5th gen yet. And their y-pipe is $350. Whats going on? Is the avalon intermediate pipe the same thing as the Stillen Y-pipe? Can someone please explain.........

<B>I saw the same thing at the Avalon website. When I went to Fizz, they called up Stillen & Stillen told them that they didn't manufacture the intermediate pipe yet. They didn't even have the full catback for the 5th gen either. Who makes catbacks for the 5th Gens? I want to get it but don't know where. And I definately do not want a cheap aftermarket that rusts after a year.

You can't be.... I AM CONFUSED>
 

what is an intermediate pipe? where does it go?

i guess its best to contact avalon racing about it then...