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LithiuMax Jun 27, 2004 08:58 PM

PIAA Super Plasma fog burned out - new PIAA's or HID fogs?
 
After ~6 months of use, one of my PIAA Super Plasmas decided it was time to go, so now I need new fogs. Question is, should I spend more money on bulbs that may burn in another 6 months, or should I get HIDs?

white m3 guy Jun 27, 2004 09:48 PM

same thing happened to me about a month ago i just got another set of super plasma's i really wanted an hid kit though

Jasonb1982 Jun 27, 2004 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by LithiuMax
After ~6 months of use, one of my PIAA Super Plasmas decided it was time to go, so now I need new fogs. Question is, should I spend more money on bulbs that may burn in another 6 months, or should I get HIDs?

I asked the same question last week and got no responses. One of my Piaa went too. I ended up buying a set of Piaa ion crystals...I'll sell you my other working piaa super plasma if you'd like. I haven't used my fogs since the one bulb went out almost 3 months ago.

bremner44 Jun 28, 2004 12:38 AM

PIAA bulbs have a 1yr warranty don't they?

ZIPPIN Jun 28, 2004 04:49 AM

are the super plasma's, the best match to the headlight HIDS?

Igor911 Jun 28, 2004 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by dba1999us
are the super plasma's, the best match to the headlight HIDS?

They are the best match to the stock HID capsules.

R.I.P. Grandma Jun 28, 2004 06:26 AM

They are suppose to have a 1 year warranty, call them up and they should send you a replacement. Getting hid's in your fogs is definately not worth it, unless you think it would look better

Igor911 Jun 28, 2004 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by R.I.P. Grandma
Getting hid's in your fogs is definately not worth it, unless you think it would look better

It is definatly WORTH IT. Maybe I can take you for a ride on some back roads here at midnight?

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...36_18_full.jpg

speye022 Jun 28, 2004 06:41 AM

WHOA! that's some serious lighting Igor911. I approve...it's worth it :bowdown:

Igor911 Jun 28, 2004 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by speye022
WHOA! that's some serious lighting Igor911. I approve...it's worth it :bowdown:

And thats a 12 noon, with only angle eyes and fogs on...no headlights.

Now imagine what it looks like at night time :shy:

Lontar1 Jun 28, 2004 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Igor911
It is definatly WORTH IT. Maybe I can take you for a ride on some back roads here at midnight?

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...36_18_full.jpg


where can I get those fogs.. I'm tires of changing my fogas and headlamps every few months. I'm using PIAA Xtreme white on both fogas and Headlamps......but now I only have the headlamps...too much money to waste on lightsss

Ammi Jun 28, 2004 08:18 AM

I lost a link on how to install HID fogs. Anybody have it saved on their computer?

ZIPPIN Jun 28, 2004 08:31 AM

i am waiting for the umnitza ones..will wait to change the DR-2 bulbs.. igor, you car looks sick. nice work

Igor911 Jun 28, 2004 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by dba1999us
i am waiting for the umnitza ones..will wait to change the DR-2 bulbs.. igor, you car looks sick. nice work

Thanks :thumbsup:

MaximusMorpheus Jun 28, 2004 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Igor911
It is definatly WORTH IT. Maybe I can take you for a ride on some back roads here at midnight?

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...36_18_full.jpg


Wow! Those fogs look great. How much were they?

skalberti Jun 28, 2004 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by LithiuMax
After ~6 months of use, one of my PIAA Super Plasmas decided it was time to go, so now I need new fogs. Question is, should I spend more money on bulbs that may burn in another 6 months, or should I get HIDs?


I had the PIAA's to and they kept burning out. Warranty or not its still a pain in the a$$ to keep changing them out. Go HID! thats what I did. I have the same set up as IGOR911, I posted a write up on the ORG with pics included, but I'm having trouble with the search feature right now. I'll try later and post the link. Here are some pics to tide you over
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...00_17_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...00_19_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...00_49_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...00_15_full.jpg

cobalt416 Jun 28, 2004 12:20 PM

very nice igor... i sent you an email but never heard from you in regard to your foglights. i have a 2001 max, wanted to put in HID fogs... then upgrade to silverstar in the headlight for a matching color. would you mind telling us what have you got and how much u paid for them ? easy to install ? i have checked out sylvania on their website, and checked out some PIAAs, they r not cheap thou...

cheers !

hank

skalberti Jun 28, 2004 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by cobalt416
very nice igor... i sent you an email but never heard from you in regard to your foglights. i have a 2001 max, wanted to put in HID fogs... then upgrade to silverstar in the headlight for a matching color. would you mind telling us what have you got and how much u paid for them ? easy to install ? i have checked out sylvania on their website, and checked out some PIAAs, they r not cheap thou...

cheers !

hank


Here's the link to purchase the HID fogs, the price is posted as well
http://www.proxenon.com/add_cart_frm.php?product_id=64

skalberti Jun 28, 2004 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ammi
I lost a link on how to install HID fogs. Anybody have it saved on their computer?


Here's the link. There is also a link within the thread to take you to pics

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=273038

2k3TitaniumSe Jun 28, 2004 08:01 PM

Why HID fogs. They loook good on normal days and nights. but once you have heavy or light fog, you won't see anything. The fog diffuses the light being dispersed by the HIDs. If you had halogen fogs, that would be a lot better.

Litrhiumax, stick with the PIAAs. The HIDs for fogs are worthless. Well, except for looks.

Jasonb1982 Jun 28, 2004 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by 2k3TitaniumSe
Why HID fogs. They loook good on normal days and nights. but once you have heavy or light fog, you won't see anything. The fog diffuses the light being dispersed by the HIDs. If you had halogen fogs, that would be a lot better.Litrhiumax, stick with the PIAAs. The HIDs for fogs are worthless. Well, except for looks.

Exactly why I got the Piaa ion crystals. I have to drive over a mountain every day to get out of the valley and anytime it rains it gets really foggy. And now I might actually be able to see in the fog. Igor you must have some trouble on rainy nights....all that HID light scattering everywhere...looks great on dry days though.

skalberti Jun 28, 2004 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jasonb1982
Exactly why I got the Piaa ion crystals. I have to drive over a mountain every day to get out of the valley and anytime it rains it gets really foggy. And now I might actually be able to see in the fog. Igor you must have some trouble on rainy nights....all that HID light scattering everywhere...looks great on dry days though.


I don't know what to tell you guys who think HIDs are bad on rainy days? What do you think happens to your HID headlights when it rains? I have the same HIDS as IGOR and I can't speak for him, but myself, I love them at night, in the rain, in the fog, runnin up someones tailpipe for driving too slow. The light is SOO white and bright right in front of the car I can perfectly, FAR better thatn with the factory bulbs, Sorry I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen it with my own eyes.

TZapper Jun 28, 2004 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by skalberti
I don't know what to tell you guys who think HIDs are bad on rainy days? What do you think happens to your HID headlights when it rains? I have the same HIDS as IGOR and I can't speak for him, but myself, I love them at night, in the rain, in the fog, runnin up someones tailpipe for driving too slow. The light is SOO white and bright right in front of the car I can perfectly, FAR better thatn with the factory bulbs, Sorry I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen it with my own eyes.

The reason why real fogs should be yellow color is that the light breaks thru the fog, unlike "white and bright" light that reflects back to you in the fog. Its physics. I have to agree that HID fogs are only for looks.

Jasonb1982 Jun 28, 2004 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by skalberti
I don't know what to tell you guys who think HIDs are bad on rainy days? What do you think happens to your HID headlights when it rains? I have the same HIDS as IGOR and I can't speak for him, but myself, I love them at night, in the rain, in the fog, runnin up someones tailpipe for driving too slow. The light is SOO white and bright right in front of the car I can perfectly, FAR better thatn with the factory bulbs, Sorry I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen it with my own eyes.

All I'm saying is that is has been my personal experience (55,600+miles in less than 13 months on my 2k3 maxima) that when I have my HIDS on in the rain at night there is less light than if I had halogens. The HIDS scatter when they hit the rain on the road.

skalberti Jun 28, 2004 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by TZapper
The reason why real fogs should be yellow color is that the light breaks thru the fog, unlike "white and bright" light that reflects back to you in the fog. Its physics. I have to agree that HID fogs are only for looks.


Its elementary, not physics. Look at the angle at which your headlights aim at the ground, now look at the angle of the fogs. See a difference? you should? Thats why fogs are mounted low and aim almost parallel with the road as headlights have probably a 30 -35 degree angle so all that rain can be hit by the headlights, but not with the fogs. There is very little distance between the road and the fog beams , so very little rain is hit to reflect. You'll also notice fogs are aimed very close to the car , not 50 feet out in front. People put hyper white bulbs in their fogs, and the color is close to HID, but not near as bright. When talking of physics angles always play a part.

R.I.P. Grandma Jun 29, 2004 06:08 AM

Actually they had a discussion like this on Hidforum.com and everyone agreed that for bad weather hid fogs are no good. Then again if you dont believe me you can check it out for yourself, that is why i said its not worth it. I agree that your fogs look really good igor im just passing some info from the hidforum to you guys.

ZIPPIN Jun 29, 2004 06:15 AM

in the last 11 years, i have driven in fog twice. how often do you guys really drive in foggy conditions? and if it is that important to have fog lights that are more than looks, install them inside the bumper and use them when its foggy. i can't wait to get them as soon as umnitza has them in stock

Igor911 Jun 29, 2004 06:40 AM

Sorry I don't recieve emails from the org...so there was no way that I could have responded to you.

As for driving in the rain, I have no issues with that at all.

I think the HID FOG's cost about $400. I dont remember what I paid.

skalberti Jun 29, 2004 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Igor911
Sorry I don't recieve emails from the org...so there was no way that I could have responded to you.

As for driving in the rain, I have no issues with that at all.

I think the HID FOG's cost about $400. I dont remember what I paid.



I really wouldn't consider the maxima's fog lights "true" fog lights. I think they fall under driving lights, since true fogs are yellow. And true I see fog every other 364 days out of the year. When it rains, I agree with IGOR no problem, Just clear sailing.


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