!!!!List of Cars that Maximass can beat!!!!
05-05-2001, 09:15 PM
#2
Well ... I'll tell u what we can't beat!
Originally posted by -MF!-
I just want to know what kind of cars Maximas can beat...
plz reply with the list of cars that you beat in a race...
I just want to know what kind of cars Maximas can beat...
plz reply with the list of cars that you beat in a race...
05-06-2001, 12:30 AM
#3
These are the following cars that I've raced and beaten.
97 Jetta GLX with neuspeed intake & Remis exhaust.
00 Celica GTS with some BS exhaust.
01 IS 300
98 Grand Prix
00 regular Mustang
00 Accord V6 & V4 Coupe
95 & 98 Preludes (95 was SH)
Integra type-R with AEM CAI, Custom 3in Catback & Apex Dunk muffler.
96 Integra LS with custom 2in catback system.
00 G20
97 Maxima GXE with Pop charger & Custom 2.5 in catback system.
01 Maxima AE 5spd(Driver was some guy in his 40s who instigated me)(Guess he chickened out when we hit 120mph)(Otherwise he would've beat me)
My only loss was to that black integra GSR (insti8tor) at DPA.. Don't know what he had under the hood but it sure worked. He completely destroyed me!!!!!
00 Celica GTS with some BS exhaust.
01 IS 300
98 Grand Prix
00 regular Mustang
00 Accord V6 & V4 Coupe
95 & 98 Preludes (95 was SH)
Integra type-R with AEM CAI, Custom 3in Catback & Apex Dunk muffler.
96 Integra LS with custom 2in catback system.
00 G20
97 Maxima GXE with Pop charger & Custom 2.5 in catback system.
01 Maxima AE 5spd(Driver was some guy in his 40s who instigated me)(Guess he chickened out when we hit 120mph)(Otherwise he would've beat me)
My only loss was to that black integra GSR (insti8tor) at DPA.. Don't know what he had under the hood but it sure worked. He completely destroyed me!!!!!
05-06-2001, 03:14 AM
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Can't beat a POS Buick Regal with the stock SC on it (98 and up). Has hardly no badging to let you know whats up, and runs like a ****, I've seen first hand! Ugly though.
So if anyone pulls up in this family car, think twice, and they are like 26K MSRP.
So if anyone pulls up in this family car, think twice, and they are like 26K MSRP.
05-06-2001, 06:31 AM
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Nah, that just means that you can't beat him in a straight line... take one around some twisties, and the Buick will surely beg for mercy..
-Tom Z.
-Tom Z.
Originally posted by TexMaximum
Can't beat a POS Buick Regal with the stock SC on it (98 and up). Has hardly no badging to let you know whats up, and runs like a ****, I've seen first hand! Ugly though.
So if anyone pulls up in this family car, think twice, and they are like 26K MSRP.
Can't beat a POS Buick Regal with the stock SC on it (98 and up). Has hardly no badging to let you know whats up, and runs like a ****, I've seen first hand! Ugly though.
So if anyone pulls up in this family car, think twice, and they are like 26K MSRP.
05-06-2001, 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by -MF!-
I just want to know what kind of cars Maximas can beat...
plz reply with the list of cars that you beat in a race...
I just want to know what kind of cars Maximas can beat...
plz reply with the list of cars that you beat in a race...
05-06-2001, 08:13 AM
#7
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911 turbo?? blah only about 3 secs diff in 0-60...
My money's on the maxima :-)
-Tom Z.
PS.. you can take most new sedans under $30k... (there are, of course, a few notable exceptions)...
My money's on the maxima :-)
-Tom Z.
PS.. you can take most new sedans under $30k... (there are, of course, a few notable exceptions)...
Originally posted by BlackAE
When it comes to racing a lot of factors come into play. You can get a good idea of which cars you can beat simply by being a prolific reader of car magazines and perusing statistics, etc. However, I think you should not really care about whether you can beat your oppponent or not. If you want to race, just race. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. So what. It's not like you're being paid to win races or something. If you want to get a better appreciation for a Porsche 911 turbo then race one sometime. If you want to humiliate the owner of an ugly little Hyundai Tiburon then race one sometime.
When it comes to racing a lot of factors come into play. You can get a good idea of which cars you can beat simply by being a prolific reader of car magazines and perusing statistics, etc. However, I think you should not really care about whether you can beat your oppponent or not. If you want to race, just race. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. So what. It's not like you're being paid to win races or something. If you want to get a better appreciation for a Porsche 911 turbo then race one sometime. If you want to humiliate the owner of an ugly little Hyundai Tiburon then race one sometime.
05-06-2001, 09:27 AM
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The guy w/ a ITR can't drive
Originally posted by RBa
Integra type-R with AEM CAI, Custom 3in Catback & Apex Dunk muffler.
Integra type-R with AEM CAI, Custom 3in Catback & Apex Dunk muffler.
I just think that guy can't drive.
05-06-2001, 03:41 PM
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Personally...
It's not ALL about the car you have. Just because you have a faster car, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win a race. My friend has a BMW 318, and when it comes down to taking turns at high speeds, he has me, hands down. Although, if I can get a good straight away on him, I'll have no problems taking him out. If you own a 5 Speed, and mess up trying to shift, you can lose easily to a slower car. I say, when it comes to racing (esp street racing) it's 75% driver, 20% car, and 5% luck! That's just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it!
05-06-2001, 03:47 PM
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These are all the real CARS that we can beat. Correct my errors if theyre any.
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
ACURA
Acura TL Type S
Acura TL 3.2
Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS
AUDI
TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual
A4
A8 quattro
BMW
328 Ci
328 Sport
528i
750 iL
X5 3.0
Z3
BUICK
All models
CHEVROLET
Impala LS
Impala
Monte Carlo SS
Monte Carlo
Lumina
Malibu
CHRYSLER
300M
PT Cruiser
LH
Concorde
DODGE
Intrepid RT
Intrepid
Neon
Stratus RT
Stratus
Avenger
FORD
Focus
Mustang V6
Taurus
Crown Victoria
HONDA
Accord
Civic Si
Civic
Prelude
Insight
HYUNDAI
All Models including 01 XG300
INFINITI
I30
Q45 (2000 Model)
G20
JAGUAR
S type
KIA
All Models including 01 Optima
LEXUS
ES300
GS300
IS300
LINCOLN
LS V8
LS
Town Car
MAZDA
626
Protege
Millenia
Miata
MERCEDES BENZ
C230K
E320
SLK
MITSUBISHI
All models including 00 Eclipse GT
NISSAN
Altima
Sentra
OLDSMOBILE
All models including 01 Aurora
PLYMOUTH
All models except Prowler
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
Grand Am GT
Grand Am
Grand Prix GTP
Grand Prix
SAAB
9-3 not including Viggen
9-5 not including Aero
SATURN
All Models
SUBARU
All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
Celica GTS
Celica
Corolla
Echo
MR2 Spyder
Avalon
VOLKSWAGON
All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion
VOLVO
C70 Convertible
S80 T6
S80
V40
V70
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
ACURA
Acura TL Type S
Acura TL 3.2
Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS
AUDI
TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual
A4
A8 quattro
BMW
328 Ci
328 Sport
528i
750 iL
X5 3.0
Z3
BUICK
All models
CHEVROLET
Impala LS
Impala
Monte Carlo SS
Monte Carlo
Lumina
Malibu
CHRYSLER
300M
PT Cruiser
LH
Concorde
DODGE
Intrepid RT
Intrepid
Neon
Stratus RT
Stratus
Avenger
FORD
Focus
Mustang V6
Taurus
Crown Victoria
HONDA
Accord
Civic Si
Civic
Prelude
Insight
HYUNDAI
All Models including 01 XG300
INFINITI
I30
Q45 (2000 Model)
G20
JAGUAR
S type
KIA
All Models including 01 Optima
LEXUS
ES300
GS300
IS300
LINCOLN
LS V8
LS
Town Car
MAZDA
626
Protege
Millenia
Miata
MERCEDES BENZ
C230K
E320
SLK
MITSUBISHI
All models including 00 Eclipse GT
NISSAN
Altima
Sentra
OLDSMOBILE
All models including 01 Aurora
PLYMOUTH
All models except Prowler
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
Grand Am GT
Grand Am
Grand Prix GTP
Grand Prix
SAAB
9-3 not including Viggen
9-5 not including Aero
SATURN
All Models
SUBARU
All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
Celica GTS
Celica
Corolla
Echo
MR2 Spyder
Avalon
VOLKSWAGON
All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion
VOLVO
C70 Convertible
S80 T6
S80
V40
V70
05-06-2001, 03:49 PM
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Re: Personally...
Originally posted by Y2K1MaximaDevil
It's not ALL about the car you have. Just because you have a faster car, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win a race. My friend has a BMW 318, and when it comes down to taking turns at high speeds, he has me, hands down. Although, if I can get a good straight away on him, I'll have no problems taking him out. If you own a 5 Speed, and mess up trying to shift, you can lose easily to a slower car. I say, when it comes to racing (esp street racing) it's 75% driver, 20% car, and 5% luck! That's just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it!
It's not ALL about the car you have. Just because you have a faster car, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win a race. My friend has a BMW 318, and when it comes down to taking turns at high speeds, he has me, hands down. Although, if I can get a good straight away on him, I'll have no problems taking him out. If you own a 5 Speed, and mess up trying to shift, you can lose easily to a slower car. I say, when it comes to racing (esp street racing) it's 75% driver, 20% car, and 5% luck! That's just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it!
05-15-2001, 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by max2kgle526
These are all the real CARS that we can beat. Correct my errors if theyre any.
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
These are all the real CARS that we can beat. Correct my errors if theyre any.
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
05-15-2001, 09:54 AM
#14
Me Vs.....
In races with my 3rd Gen, I am 4-1. The only loss I had was to a Acura CL 3.2. Basically, he cleaned my clock.
My favorite victory was against a Monte Carlo whose driver talked waaaaaaaay too much trash. Right behind that was a recent romp of an LT-1 powered Roadmaster.
My favorite victory was against a Monte Carlo whose driver talked waaaaaaaay too much trash. Right behind that was a recent romp of an LT-1 powered Roadmaster.
05-15-2001, 10:45 AM
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Posts: 647
Originally posted by FastCat
Be careful out there...The base bonny's run a potent 3.8 V6 and shouldn't pose a problem. Watch out for the SSEi's though. They WILL smoke you! The blower adds a $%^*-load of torque to the bottom end and the HP increase at the top-end will allow you to get a good look at the SSEi badge on his rear end.
Be careful out there...The base bonny's run a potent 3.8 V6 and shouldn't pose a problem. Watch out for the SSEi's though. They WILL smoke you! The blower adds a $%^*-load of torque to the bottom end and the HP increase at the top-end will allow you to get a good look at the SSEi badge on his rear end.
He's been hangin' out for a while up here and wanted to join the fun. Even though he's a freakin' Jag Snob (
) he respects our car for our class. At least that's what he tells me. You messin' with me, FastCat? Nah, just playin'... he enjoys seeing the back and forth we have going on especially becuase the guys that post on his enthusiast page are a bunch of old men who want nothing to do with mods, so he's kind of a leper among leopards 
Anyway, wanted to give you the official welcome to the board!
Wow, I think that list about covers it.
05-16-2001, 07:59 PM
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Posts: 2,145
You forget all the hybrid vehicles and espcially the Ford Ka.
There is no way a Maxima could have beated in a Race the following cars:
A8 quattro, 750iL, S80 T6, Acura TL Type S(?)
I mean a Maxima is ONLY a family sport sedan.
I know its a great car but still we need to draw a line somewhere. A maxima is no damn Ferrari, it doesn't even come in the same color.
There is no way a Maxima could have beated in a Race the following cars:
A8 quattro, 750iL, S80 T6, Acura TL Type S(?)
I mean a Maxima is ONLY a family sport sedan.
I know its a great car but still we need to draw a line somewhere. A maxima is no damn Ferrari, it doesn't even come in the same color.
05-17-2001, 02:28 PM
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Posts: 36
hahaha
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
ACURA
Acura TL Type S
UHHH NO!!! you're SMOKING something if you think this... this car will also loose you in the twisties
Acura TL 3.2
Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS
yes the GS and LS... i dunno about the GSR... remember it weighs almost 1000 lbs less than you
AUDI
TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual
uhhh no
A4
A8 quattro
wrong again
BMW
328 Ci
328 Sport
528i
think again; this car runs high 14s...
750 iL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is a V12... makes over 300hp...
X5 3.0
this thing runs high 14s as well
Z3
which one? there are plenty of Z3s
BUICK
All models
try racing a supercharged one
CHEVROLET
Impala LS
Impala
Monte Carlo SS
uhhh no... thats supercharged... 240hp... more torque and weighs the same
Monte Carlo
Lumina
Malibu
CHRYSLER
300M
PT Cruiser
LH
Concorde
DODGE
Intrepid RT
Intrepid
Neon
which neon?
Stratus RT
you smoking again? this is an Eclipse GT... you lose
Stratus
Avenger
FORD
Focus
Mustang V6
Taurus
Crown Victoria
HONDA
Accord
Civic Si
Civic
Prelude
which? any vtec 95+ you GONNA LOSE
Insight
HYUNDAI
All Models including 01 XG300
INFINITI
I30
same car you ****ing moron
Q45 (2000 Model)
uhm NO... 280hp! and weighs the same as you!
G20
JAGUAR
S type
uhhhh supercharged or non?
KIA
All Models including 01 Optima
LEXUS
ES300
GS300
ummm no
IS300
VERY CLOSE but my money is on the RWD car
LINCOLN
LS V8
umm no! this car makes 240hp? and weighs less than you...
LS
Town Car
MAZDA
626
Protege
Millenia
Miata
ummmmm VERY CLOSE
MERCEDES BENZ
C230K
E320
SLK
ummm? which?
MITSUBISHI
All models including 00 Eclipse GT
NO NO NO NO NO... this car makes 205hp and weighs less
and if you want to compare my Talon turbo AWD vs YOUR car...
we can go any day.. i run low 14s with an open intake and boost increase....
NISSAN
Altima
not for loooonnnggg...
Sentra
not for looonnnggg... the maxima is gonna be the slow car
in nissan's line pretty soon...
OLDSMOBILE
All models including 01 Aurora
VERY CLOSE
OLDSMOBILE DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!
PLYMOUTH
All models except Prowler
PLYMOUTH DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE!!! HELLO?!?!?
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
UMMM... NO
Grand Am GT
ummm VERY close
Grand Am
Grand Prix GTP
ditto with the bonneville.. same car
Grand Prix
SAAB
9-3 not including Viggen
9-5 not including Aero
SATURN
All Models
SUBARU
All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
very close...
Celica GTS
no... i've witnessed this myself... you won't beat it
Celica
Corolla
Echo
MR2 Spyder
this is very close... i'd like to see this
Avalon
VOLKSWAGON
All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion
UUHHHHHH maybe... modded cars? no... they have turbo
you don't
VOLVO
C70 Convertible
S80 T6
S80
V40
V70 [/B][/QUOTE]
gonna have some fun with this ****...
Originally posted by max2kgle526
These are all the real CARS that we can beat. Correct my errors if theyre any.
These are all the real CARS that we can beat. Correct my errors if theyre any.
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
ACURA
Acura TL Type S
UHHH NO!!! you're SMOKING something if you think this... this car will also loose you in the twisties
Acura TL 3.2
Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS
yes the GS and LS... i dunno about the GSR... remember it weighs almost 1000 lbs less than you
AUDI
TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual
uhhh no
A4
A8 quattro
wrong again
BMW
328 Ci
328 Sport
528i
think again; this car runs high 14s...
750 iL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is a V12... makes over 300hp...
X5 3.0
this thing runs high 14s as well
Z3
which one? there are plenty of Z3s
BUICK
All models
try racing a supercharged one
CHEVROLET
Impala LS
Impala
Monte Carlo SS
uhhh no... thats supercharged... 240hp... more torque and weighs the same
Monte Carlo
Lumina
Malibu
CHRYSLER
300M
PT Cruiser
LH
Concorde
DODGE
Intrepid RT
Intrepid
Neon
which neon?
Stratus RT
you smoking again? this is an Eclipse GT... you lose
Stratus
Avenger
FORD
Focus
Mustang V6
Taurus
Crown Victoria
HONDA
Accord
Civic Si
Civic
Prelude
which? any vtec 95+ you GONNA LOSE
Insight
HYUNDAI
All Models including 01 XG300
INFINITI
I30
same car you ****ing moron
Q45 (2000 Model)
uhm NO... 280hp! and weighs the same as you!
G20
JAGUAR
S type
uhhhh supercharged or non?
KIA
All Models including 01 Optima
LEXUS
ES300
GS300
ummm no
IS300
VERY CLOSE but my money is on the RWD car
LINCOLN
LS V8
umm no! this car makes 240hp? and weighs less than you...
LS
Town Car
MAZDA
626
Protege
Millenia
Miata
ummmmm VERY CLOSE
MERCEDES BENZ
C230K
E320
SLK
ummm? which?
MITSUBISHI
All models including 00 Eclipse GT
NO NO NO NO NO... this car makes 205hp and weighs less
and if you want to compare my Talon turbo AWD vs YOUR car...
we can go any day.. i run low 14s with an open intake and boost increase....
NISSAN
Altima
not for loooonnnggg...
Sentra
not for looonnnggg... the maxima is gonna be the slow car
in nissan's line pretty soon...
OLDSMOBILE
All models including 01 Aurora
VERY CLOSE
OLDSMOBILE DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!
PLYMOUTH
All models except Prowler
PLYMOUTH DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE!!! HELLO?!?!?
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
UMMM... NO
Grand Am GT
ummm VERY close
Grand Am
Grand Prix GTP
ditto with the bonneville.. same car
Grand Prix
SAAB
9-3 not including Viggen
9-5 not including Aero
SATURN
All Models
SUBARU
All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
very close...
Celica GTS
no... i've witnessed this myself... you won't beat it
Celica
Corolla
Echo
MR2 Spyder
this is very close... i'd like to see this
Avalon
VOLKSWAGON
All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion
UUHHHHHH maybe... modded cars? no... they have turbo
you don't
VOLVO
C70 Convertible
S80 T6
S80
V40
V70 [/B][/QUOTE]
05-17-2001, 03:04 PM
#23
Someone has got to set this idiot straight
All of my replies have a "-" by them
[/B][/QUOTE]
Thank you, call again
Originally posted by Bean
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
ACURA
Acura TL Type S
UHHH NO!!! you're SMOKING something if you think this... this car will also loose you in the twisties
-Many members have beat'n this car straight-line and twisties. Ask Psing23 and he has and automatic. I myself have outrun a standard TL on the highway and I have an automatic. I have never raced with a CL-S
Acura TL 3.2
Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS
yes the GS and LS... i dunno about the GSR... remember it weighs almost 1000 lbs less than you
AUDI
TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual
uhhh no
-No problem with the 185HP TT if we drive a stick
A4
A8 quattro
wrong again
-Yes, you can outrun the A8 3.7 or A8 4.2 Quattro to a certain point if you have a stick. The A8 3.7 is just plain slow.
BMW
328 Ci
-Not sure, but other members say it is possible
328 Sport
528i
think again; this car runs high 14s...
-This car is no different than the 328Ci. Its just alot heavier. We can easily run close or beat this car if we have the same transmission. Maxima 5speeds are also high 14 cars.
750 iL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is a V12... makes over 300hp...
-It makes 296HP from a 5.4 Sohc 24valve V12. Yes, this car will whomp on us unless you have some special driving technic. the 750iL also weights over 4,000lbs. Big engine doesn't always mean super fast
X5 3.0
this thing runs high 14s as well
-Your dreaming. The 4.4i doesn't even run 14's and it has a 282hp V8 vs the 3.0i 225hp i-6. Paying more or buying something bigger doesn't mean it is faster.
Z3
which one? there are plenty of Z3s
-Z3 1.8,2.5 and maybe 2.8, really depends on the driver with the 2.8. The M will smoke us.
BUICK
All models
try racing a supercharged one
-The Regal GS will smoke the automatic guys. The Manual guys can run neck-to-neck
CHEVROLET
Impala LS
Impala
Monte Carlo SS
uhhh no... thats supercharged... 240hp... more torque and weighs the same
-wrong. There is no S/C factory version. the 3.8L is the regular 200-205HP engine. I've outrun 2 before. Both were SS models. The standard ones have a 3.4L 180HP engine. Weaker than our cars.
Monte Carlo
-Super easy
Lumina
Malibu
CHRYSLER
300M
PT Cruiser
LH
Concorde
DODGE
Intrepid RT
Intrepid
Neon
which neon?
-All of them. They are weak.
Stratus RT
you smoking again? this is an Eclipse GT... you lose
-You are wrong. I can run neck-to-neck with a V6 GT automatic. I've done it twice with my friends 00.
Stratus
Avenger
FORD
Focus
Mustang V6
Taurus
Crown Victoria
HONDA
Accord
Civic Si
Civic
Prelude
which? any vtec 95+ you GONNA LOSE
-The newer ones are nothing for the manual guys
Insight
HYUNDAI
All Models including 01 XG300
INFINITI
I30
same car you ****ing moron
-Duh, he was comparing which cars we can beat. Who cares if it is based on the Maxima.The I30 is heavier and slightly slower. HELLO? Do think your the only one who knows that. Max2kGLE knows alot about other vehicles.
Q45 (2000 Model)
uhm NO... 280hp! and weighs the same as you!
-Yes. 2000 model only has 266HP. We can outrun them to a certain point. 280HP. Your really dreaming. Please get all your facts straight. Maxima's do NOT weight 4,000LBS like the Q45. We are closer to 3,200LBS. Do you think Maxima's are heavy? If you do, think again idiot. Yes that was a personal attack.
G20
JAGUAR
S type
uhhhh supercharged or non?
-There is no Supercharged on the S-type. 3.0 V6 or the 4.0 V8, we can outrun this car in any form.
KIA
All Models including 01 Optima
LEXUS
ES300
GS300
ummm no
-Yes, This car is slow and heavy. I've driven one before and reading magazine times, they range from 7.7-8.0 seconds.
IS300
VERY CLOSE but my money is on the RWD car
-Wait a minute. We are close with this car, yet the GS300 will outrun us? Excuse me? The Is300 IS based on a shorten version of the GS. It is lighter and has the same engine. This car will get whooped on if we have a manual and will run almost even with the automatic. We can whomp on a GS300
LINCOLN
LS V8
umm no! this car makes 240hp? and weighs less than you...
Less weight than us? Excuse me? This car weights around 3,600lbs. Don't you look stuff up before you post these idiotic responses? This car makes 252HP and runs 0-60 in 7.2seconds. The manual guys can outrun it.
LS
Town Car
MAZDA
626
Protege
Millenia
Miata
ummmmm VERY CLOSE
-Not even close.
MERCEDES BENZ
C230K
E320
SLK
ummm? which?
SLK230. I don't know what the SLK320 runs
MITSUBISHI
All models including 00 Eclipse GT
NO NO NO NO NO... this car makes 205hp and weighs less
and if you want to compare my Talon turbo AWD vs YOUR car...
we can go any day.. i run low 14s with an open intake and boost increase....
-Nope, Like I said before. I've ran with my cousins 99 GSX perfectly even from 60-120mph. Don't get made because you drive one and we can say we beat it. Your DSM is not god. And HELLO? You are modified. We are comparing stock cars here...
Galants are slow anywho and that is what your car is based on.
NISSAN
Altima
not for loooonnnggg...
-This fall, the 5th generation will get a 3.5L 260hp engine. It is suppost to debut before the Altima with the 3.5L 240hp. The Maxima will still be on top. Get all your information please. You are a waste of thread space.
Sentra
not for looonnnggg... the maxima is gonna be the slow car
in nissan's line pretty soon...
-You are stupid. You must have alot against Maxima's since you posted this. Get off this website. Things were just starting to get peaceful until you posted this.
OLDSMOBILE
All models including 01 Aurora
VERY CLOSE
OLDSMOBILE DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!
-Yes it does. All of there cars are running their lifespan before they officially close. OLDS is still here.
PLYMOUTH
All models except Prowler
PLYMOUTH DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE!!! HELLO?!?!?
-We are not just talking about new cars. HELLO??
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
UMMM... NO
-Yes, This car is heavier and slower than the GTP. Same engine doesn't mean same times. Look at the IS300/GS300.
Grand Am GT
ummm VERY close
-No competition. Do you even own or drive a Maxima? I'm begining to question you don't since you have insulted our cars and think a GA will even come close. Bwhahahaha.
Grand Am
Grand Prix GTP
ditto with the bonneville.. same car
-Manuals can run neck-to-neck with a good driver. Though some GTP's have ran 14.5 stock on a perfect for a S/C day. Bonneville is the same car with the same engine, but it is heavier.
Grand Prix
SAAB
9-3 not including Viggen
9-5 not including Aero
SATURN
All Models
SUBARU
All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
very close...
Celica GTS
no... i've witnessed this myself... you won't beat it
-Never witness anything like this but I can say the Regular one is a Piece of Cake.
Celica
Corolla
Echo
MR2 Spyder
this is very close... i'd like to see this
Avalon
VOLKSWAGON
All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion
UUHHHHHH maybe... modded cars? no... they have turbo
you don't
The 2.8 V6 is slow Passat. Passat 1.8T is slow stock. Why is that you think every Turbo car is fast?
VOLVO
C70 Convertible
S80 T6
-I doubt this one.
S80
V40
V70
-If you've never raced in a Maxima before, dont' go starting stuff like this. Most of your information that you replied is wrong or far fetched. Also, It seems that you think the higher model line of a car is faster. AN example would be the IS/GS. Paying more doesn't mean it is faster. Stop the nonsense LURKER!
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.
ACURA
Acura TL Type S
UHHH NO!!! you're SMOKING something if you think this... this car will also loose you in the twisties
-Many members have beat'n this car straight-line and twisties. Ask Psing23 and he has and automatic. I myself have outrun a standard TL on the highway and I have an automatic. I have never raced with a CL-S
Acura TL 3.2
Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS
yes the GS and LS... i dunno about the GSR... remember it weighs almost 1000 lbs less than you
AUDI
TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual
uhhh no
-No problem with the 185HP TT if we drive a stick
A4
A8 quattro
wrong again
-Yes, you can outrun the A8 3.7 or A8 4.2 Quattro to a certain point if you have a stick. The A8 3.7 is just plain slow.
BMW
328 Ci
-Not sure, but other members say it is possible
328 Sport
528i
think again; this car runs high 14s...
-This car is no different than the 328Ci. Its just alot heavier. We can easily run close or beat this car if we have the same transmission. Maxima 5speeds are also high 14 cars.
750 iL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is a V12... makes over 300hp...
-It makes 296HP from a 5.4 Sohc 24valve V12. Yes, this car will whomp on us unless you have some special driving technic. the 750iL also weights over 4,000lbs. Big engine doesn't always mean super fast
X5 3.0
this thing runs high 14s as well
-Your dreaming. The 4.4i doesn't even run 14's and it has a 282hp V8 vs the 3.0i 225hp i-6. Paying more or buying something bigger doesn't mean it is faster.
Z3
which one? there are plenty of Z3s
-Z3 1.8,2.5 and maybe 2.8, really depends on the driver with the 2.8. The M will smoke us.
BUICK
All models
try racing a supercharged one
-The Regal GS will smoke the automatic guys. The Manual guys can run neck-to-neck
CHEVROLET
Impala LS
Impala
Monte Carlo SS
uhhh no... thats supercharged... 240hp... more torque and weighs the same
-wrong. There is no S/C factory version. the 3.8L is the regular 200-205HP engine. I've outrun 2 before. Both were SS models. The standard ones have a 3.4L 180HP engine. Weaker than our cars.
Monte Carlo
-Super easy
Lumina
Malibu
CHRYSLER
300M
PT Cruiser
LH
Concorde
DODGE
Intrepid RT
Intrepid
Neon
which neon?
-All of them. They are weak.
Stratus RT
you smoking again? this is an Eclipse GT... you lose
-You are wrong. I can run neck-to-neck with a V6 GT automatic. I've done it twice with my friends 00.
Stratus
Avenger
FORD
Focus
Mustang V6
Taurus
Crown Victoria
HONDA
Accord
Civic Si
Civic
Prelude
which? any vtec 95+ you GONNA LOSE
-The newer ones are nothing for the manual guys
Insight
HYUNDAI
All Models including 01 XG300
INFINITI
I30
same car you ****ing moron
-Duh, he was comparing which cars we can beat. Who cares if it is based on the Maxima.The I30 is heavier and slightly slower. HELLO? Do think your the only one who knows that. Max2kGLE knows alot about other vehicles.
Q45 (2000 Model)
uhm NO... 280hp! and weighs the same as you!
-Yes. 2000 model only has 266HP. We can outrun them to a certain point. 280HP. Your really dreaming. Please get all your facts straight. Maxima's do NOT weight 4,000LBS like the Q45. We are closer to 3,200LBS. Do you think Maxima's are heavy? If you do, think again idiot. Yes that was a personal attack.
G20
JAGUAR
S type
uhhhh supercharged or non?
-There is no Supercharged on the S-type. 3.0 V6 or the 4.0 V8, we can outrun this car in any form.
KIA
All Models including 01 Optima
LEXUS
ES300
GS300
ummm no
-Yes, This car is slow and heavy. I've driven one before and reading magazine times, they range from 7.7-8.0 seconds.
IS300
VERY CLOSE but my money is on the RWD car
-Wait a minute. We are close with this car, yet the GS300 will outrun us? Excuse me? The Is300 IS based on a shorten version of the GS. It is lighter and has the same engine. This car will get whooped on if we have a manual and will run almost even with the automatic. We can whomp on a GS300
LINCOLN
LS V8
umm no! this car makes 240hp? and weighs less than you...
Less weight than us? Excuse me? This car weights around 3,600lbs. Don't you look stuff up before you post these idiotic responses? This car makes 252HP and runs 0-60 in 7.2seconds. The manual guys can outrun it.
LS
Town Car
MAZDA
626
Protege
Millenia
Miata
ummmmm VERY CLOSE
-Not even close.
MERCEDES BENZ
C230K
E320
SLK
ummm? which?
SLK230. I don't know what the SLK320 runs
MITSUBISHI
All models including 00 Eclipse GT
NO NO NO NO NO... this car makes 205hp and weighs less
and if you want to compare my Talon turbo AWD vs YOUR car...
we can go any day.. i run low 14s with an open intake and boost increase....
-Nope, Like I said before. I've ran with my cousins 99 GSX perfectly even from 60-120mph. Don't get made because you drive one and we can say we beat it. Your DSM is not god. And HELLO? You are modified. We are comparing stock cars here...
Galants are slow anywho and that is what your car is based on.NISSAN
Altima
not for loooonnnggg...
-This fall, the 5th generation will get a 3.5L 260hp engine. It is suppost to debut before the Altima with the 3.5L 240hp. The Maxima will still be on top. Get all your information please. You are a waste of thread space.
Sentra
not for looonnnggg... the maxima is gonna be the slow car
in nissan's line pretty soon...
-You are stupid. You must have alot against Maxima's since you posted this. Get off this website. Things were just starting to get peaceful until you posted this.
OLDSMOBILE
All models including 01 Aurora
VERY CLOSE
OLDSMOBILE DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!
-Yes it does. All of there cars are running their lifespan before they officially close. OLDS is still here.
PLYMOUTH
All models except Prowler
PLYMOUTH DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE!!! HELLO?!?!?
-We are not just talking about new cars. HELLO??
PONTIAC
Bonneville SSEi
UMMM... NO
-Yes, This car is heavier and slower than the GTP. Same engine doesn't mean same times. Look at the IS300/GS300.
Grand Am GT
ummm VERY close
-No competition. Do you even own or drive a Maxima? I'm begining to question you don't since you have insulted our cars and think a GA will even come close. Bwhahahaha.
Grand Am
Grand Prix GTP
ditto with the bonneville.. same car
-Manuals can run neck-to-neck with a good driver. Though some GTP's have ran 14.5 stock on a perfect for a S/C day. Bonneville is the same car with the same engine, but it is heavier.
Grand Prix
SAAB
9-3 not including Viggen
9-5 not including Aero
SATURN
All Models
SUBARU
All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
very close...
Celica GTS
no... i've witnessed this myself... you won't beat it
-Never witness anything like this but I can say the Regular one is a Piece of Cake.
Celica
Corolla
Echo
MR2 Spyder
this is very close... i'd like to see this
Avalon
VOLKSWAGON
All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion
UUHHHHHH maybe... modded cars? no... they have turbo
you don't
The 2.8 V6 is slow Passat. Passat 1.8T is slow stock. Why is that you think every Turbo car is fast?
VOLVO
C70 Convertible
S80 T6
-I doubt this one.
S80
V40
V70
-If you've never raced in a Maxima before, dont' go starting stuff like this. Most of your information that you replied is wrong or far fetched. Also, It seems that you think the higher model line of a car is faster. AN example would be the IS/GS. Paying more doesn't mean it is faster. Stop the nonsense LURKER!
Thank you, call again
05-17-2001, 03:43 PM
#24
Member
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 36
Re: Someone has got to set this idiot straight
Originally posted by ScreamingVQ
All of my replies have a "-" by them
Thank you, call again
All of my replies have a "-" by them
Thank you, call again
but a 750IL weighs around 3800lbs and makes right at 300hp...
and it has A HELLVA LOTS MORE TORQUE
i hope to god you know what that is...
the stock turbo cars are not fast... but modded they will be faster than you can dream of... unless you get nos... but then they can spend that money on a bigger turbo...
keey in mind the 1.8 TT has a SMAAAAALLLLLL turbo...
GS300 is wrong my bad; i forgot how much it weighs
but the IS300 weighs about the same and its RWD... unlike you torque-steering dudes
Celica GTS -
the regular celica makes 140hp, of course it would be easy... he SAID GTS... this car has 180hp and weighs 2600lbs... you will take it from a light until the 1/8 mile... i ran one on a roll in my Talon with my clutch slipping to hell and back and i RAN away from one...
OLDS is gone officially btw... why does GM no longer make any new commercials for it? why are there no car programs... soon as their stock is gone Olds is gone... that will take about another year... they are no longer producing any new cars... i hate it... the oldest car company in america will be gone
"You are stupid. You must have alot against Maxima's since you posted this. Get off this website. Things were just starting to get peaceful until you posted this. "
don't get me wrong... the Maxima is a badass car; but there are a lot of cars that were listed that you can't beat...
Things peaceful? You guys would prolly be stroking yourselves.. no one questioning if a car can't really be beat... ignorance breeds ignorance... sorry if this all came across hard
My car... I'm not really modified... i have $55 in parts... $45 is a gauge... $7 is boost controller parts from the hardware store...
you won't take me 0-100 i promise you that... i dunno what the top speed is on the maximas... its got the badass VQ motor; but still its not a high-mph car...
you may take me top speed i dunno
and remember the 2nd gen DSMs are slower... they weigh more; have a more peakier powerband... from a restrictive intake, head, and lower boost on a smaller more innefficient turbo..
"The Is300 IS based on a shorten version of the GS. It is lighter and has the same engine. This car will get whooped on if we have a manual and will run almost even with the automatic. We can whomp on a GS300"
thats some ignorance but its cool... the IS300 is NOT based off the GS300.. the IS300 is based off a car in japan; it has been around for years and comes with the 1jz-gte motor there... a 2.5L turbo I6... the IS300 this year with the manual tranny will outrun your car because they can launch hella better... i can't remember the name of it... i've got sleep deprivation
"We are closer to 3,200LBS."
NOT... more like 3400lbs... remember you have 4 doors, 4 seats and its a nice solid sedan.. my 300zxTT weighed 3400lbs... and you aren't going to be lighter than my car... sorry...
"The newer ones are nothing for the manual guys"
referring to preludes
then you never ran a VTEC prelude... the 200hp Prelude... the one that weighs 3000lbs... and thats the 97+
the 95ish VTECS weigh under 3000lbs... sorry but the one you raced couldn't either drive or wasn't a vtec... a DOHC vtec...
"wrong. There is no S/C factory version. the 3.8L is the regular 205HP engine. I've outrun 2 before. Both were SS models. The standard ones have a 3.4L 180HP engine. Weaker than our cars." referring to the SS Monte Carlo
well you're wrong on the first part and right on the second... i was wrong... the SS you can beat because its nothing but a GrandPrix GT... but i meant the special edition 240hp versions they had this year...
"Z3 1.8,2.5 and maybe 2.8, really depends on the driver with the 2.8. The M will smoke us."
the old ones yes...
the new 2001 3.0L Z3 that makes 240hp will KILL you... no competition... those things weigh 2400-2500lbs?
there's another engine option that has 190hp i believe... and he will still be faster... to a point; i think you guys have more topend
someone up there mentioned they raced a type-r and won.. was it a gsr with a type-r sticker? the new 2001 Type-Rs are not slow by any means... and they handle pretty damn good... for a FWD
"Many members have beat'n this car straight-line and twisties. Ask Psing23. I myself have outrun a standard TL on the highway. " this is referring to a Type-S
a Type-S runs 14s dude... yeah i can understand a TL... a Type-S has 260hp and weighs a little less than you... you won't touch it...
and i'm sorry if i came on here all big *** and ****... i apologize... its just i HATE ignorance about cars... i know you guys know your **** about your car...
but there were a couple cars on here that you won't beat... i gota little carried away...
later guys
05-17-2001, 04:51 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: hahaha
Originally posted by Bean
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
...
G20
JAGUAR
S type
uhhhh supercharged or non?
KIA
...
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
...
G20
JAGUAR
S type
uhhhh supercharged or non?
KIA
...
Ooops..Clutch in, reverse...I missed a Jag on this list??!!
Sorry for the venting guys but....don't mess with the Jag's
Even the lowest model Jag produces, the V6 S-Type, is a potent vehicle. Let's look at a few specs.
- Weight = 3900lb (52/48 weight dist B/T/W)
- 281hp/287ft-lbs torque
- Pulls .82 on the skidpad with STOCK tires
- Moves out at 0-60 in 7.0 and QM at 15.5 @ 91mph with an automatic!
That's only the start...Get up to the XJR (my ride) and now you're smoking something besides the tires.
Comments??
05-17-2001, 05:15 PM
#26
Re: hahaha
Originally posted by Bean
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
STUFF DELETED...
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
STUFF DELETED...
Q45 weighs much more than the Maxima...this is easily confirmed on the Nissan and Infiniti web sites.
Miata...close race...no, my man...not close at all.
I30...his list was cars that a 5-speed Max can beat...the current I30 is not available in the 5-speed and has the same engine with slightly more weight...so his point was accurate.
Those are just a couple, but just relax and state your opinion without being so hostile.
05-17-2001, 05:19 PM
#27
Re: Re: Someone has got to set this idiot straight
Originally posted by Bean
this is referring to a Type-S
a Type-S runs 14s dude... yeah i can understand a TL... a Type-S has 260hp and weighs a little less than you... you won't touch it...
this is referring to a Type-S
a Type-S runs 14s dude... yeah i can understand a TL... a Type-S has 260hp and weighs a little less than you... you won't touch it...
14's on who's watch. I swear everyone just pulls these numbers out of thin air. On a track with repeated trials, C&D and R&T ran 15.1s with the CL-S (which happens to be the same time the SE Maxima received)...given that the TL-S weighs more than the CL-S, I doubt the TL-S runs faster than the CL-S.
05-17-2001, 05:21 PM
#28
Bean. I'm usually not a hostile person but when someone attacks or gets hostile in a reply, other memberes do, too. You do bring up some good points and its good that you can admit to being hostile.
05-17-2001, 05:26 PM
#29
Re: Re: Someone has got to set this idiot straight
Originally posted by Bean
"We are closer to 3,200LBS."
NOT... more like 3400lbs... remember you have 4 doors, 4 seats and its a nice solid sedan.. my 300zxTT weighed 3400lbs... and you aren't going to be lighter than my car... sorry...
"We are closer to 3,200LBS."
NOT... more like 3400lbs... remember you have 4 doors, 4 seats and its a nice solid sedan.. my 300zxTT weighed 3400lbs... and you aren't going to be lighter than my car... sorry...
05-17-2001, 05:29 PM
#30
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST
Nobody post any more BS numbers on this thread unless they look them up and reference them somewhere, speaking of ignorance about cars. I swear...this runs 14's, that weighs 8,000 lbs., your name is Fred, no its not, yes it is. Things like hp, curb weight, etc. are easily confirmed...people need to stop just guessing at things like that.
You are all on the internet...go look up the #s before posting them.
And while you're at it...make me a turkey on rye...I'm hungry and can't pull myself away from this forum!
You are all on the internet...go look up the #s before posting them.
And while you're at it...make me a turkey on rye...I'm hungry and can't pull myself away from this forum!
05-17-2001, 05:47 PM
#31
Hells yeah
Originally posted by FastCat
Be careful out there...The base bonny's run a potent 3.8 V6 and shouldn't pose a problem. Watch out for the SSEi's though. They WILL smoke you! The blower adds a $%^*-load of torque to the bottom end and the HP increase at the top-end will allow you to get a good look at the SSEi badge on his rear end.
Be careful out there...The base bonny's run a potent 3.8 V6 and shouldn't pose a problem. Watch out for the SSEi's though. They WILL smoke you! The blower adds a $%^*-load of torque to the bottom end and the HP increase at the top-end will allow you to get a good look at the SSEi badge on his rear end.
I raced my friends dads 95 SSEi back when I just got my 93 auto SE max, he smoked my *** like a cigarette, I stayed close up to maybe 40, then he began pulling like a ****! very serious beasts...
05-17-2001, 05:49 PM
#32
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 254
dude...i've been reading all theses HUGE lists of cars... one thing, i dunno about you but those lists are cars that can probably be beat by an almost stock maxima. Anyways, the race isn't always the car, the driver is always the better of the two elements in racing.
The maxima would be smoked by some cars on that list... but I think any real street racer could smoke any of those cars. It's like 50% driver skill 25% knowing the streets 20% car and 5% luck to me
The maxima would be smoked by some cars on that list... but I think any real street racer could smoke any of those cars. It's like 50% driver skill 25% knowing the streets 20% car and 5% luck to me
05-18-2001, 02:08 AM
#35
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Re: hahaha
anyone raced a TRD solara? I know my neighbor has one =)
[/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Bean
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
very close...
Celica GTS
no... i've witnessed this myself... you won't beat it
ok you're VERY wrong here hehehehehe
gonna have some fun with this ****...
TOYOTA
Camry
Camry Solara
very close...
Celica GTS
no... i've witnessed this myself... you won't beat it
05-18-2001, 04:31 PM
#36
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 20
Couple of corrections. Maxima SE 5sp will beat the Pontiac Bonneville SSEi cause the Bonneville is heavier. The Grand Prix GTP and the Buick Regal GS will beat the Maxima in the low end, they'll get closer to tieing at the end of the 1/4 mile, and the Maxima should start gaining after that. Acura Type S will beat a Maxima. Maxima should bean an IS300. But you have to remember, that all the car mentioned are automatic and the Maxima is 5spd manual, and the 3 GM cars mentioned are supercharged.
05-18-2001, 05:06 PM
#37
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 109
Originally posted by TexMaximum
Can't beat a POS Buick Regal with the stock SC on it (98 and up). Has hardly no badging to let you know whats up, and runs like a ****, I've seen first hand! Ugly though.
So if anyone pulls up in this family car, think twice, and they are like 26K MSRP.
Can't beat a POS Buick Regal with the stock SC on it (98 and up). Has hardly no badging to let you know whats up, and runs like a ****, I've seen first hand! Ugly though.
So if anyone pulls up in this family car, think twice, and they are like 26K MSRP.
05-18-2001, 05:25 PM
#38
Well...
Originally posted by !GTP!
Couple of corrections. Maxima SE 5sp will beat the Pontiac Bonneville SSEi cause the Bonneville is heavier. The Grand Prix GTP and the Buick Regal GS will beat the Maxima in the low end, they'll get closer to tieing at the end of the 1/4 mile, and the Maxima should start gaining after that. Acura Type S will beat a Maxima. Maxima should bean an IS300. But you have to remember, that all the car mentioned are automatic and the Maxima is 5spd manual, and the 3 GM cars mentioned are supercharged.
Couple of corrections. Maxima SE 5sp will beat the Pontiac Bonneville SSEi cause the Bonneville is heavier. The Grand Prix GTP and the Buick Regal GS will beat the Maxima in the low end, they'll get closer to tieing at the end of the 1/4 mile, and the Maxima should start gaining after that. Acura Type S will beat a Maxima. Maxima should bean an IS300. But you have to remember, that all the car mentioned are automatic and the Maxima is 5spd manual, and the 3 GM cars mentioned are supercharged.
Acura Type S will beat a Maxima? Why do people just keep saying that? Who are you people?
05-18-2001, 09:08 PM
#39
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,145
Re: Well...
Originally posted by Michael98033
The transmission of a vehicle does pertain to its performance, so if the fact that a car is not available in a manual is a reason a Maxima can beat it, then so be it! That's the whole point.
Acura Type S will beat a Maxima? Why do people just keep saying that? Who are you people?
The transmission of a vehicle does pertain to its performance, so if the fact that a car is not available in a manual is a reason a Maxima can beat it, then so be it! That's the whole point.
Acura Type S will beat a Maxima? Why do people just keep saying that? Who are you people?
I bet they will. They have 40hp more then us and there isn't a lot of difference in weight only about 300lb. They also have tiptronic which helps them a lot for acceleration.In handling the maxima will beat them down.
