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godlyone 06-20-2009 09:05 AM

The REALLY definitive 6th Gen BBK with great pics
 
Parts:
1. calipers + torque member from a 2004 maxima through a junkyard ($50)
2. Black Zinc coated Dimpled Rotors + Hawk HPS pads via rotorpros ($149)

so a total of 200 spent..

First step is to really clean the calipers.. they were filthy!

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4796Small.jpg
After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4794Small.jpg

Then sand the hell out of it and mask everything off for paint:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4798Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4797Small.jpg

I used enamel based spray paint (high heat as it is really meant for BBQ grills)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4801Small.jpg

godlyone 06-20-2009 09:13 AM

Rotors and pads get delivered:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4807Small.jpg

Look at the size difference with my OEM ones!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4812Small.jpg

So jack up your car, USE JACKSTANDS, take off your wheel

At this point you want to place a drip pan under the caliper and loosen the brake line bolt (12mm)

Then remove 2 bolts (14mm) that hold the caliper on, hang the caliper to the spring using rope or something similar:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4811Small.jpg


Then remove 2 more bolts (19mm) holding the torque member (these are on hella tight):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4813Small.jpg


Use a C-clamp and an old brake pad to push the new caliper's piston back to allow for the new pads to sit.

Now, connect the brake line to the new caliper and hang that one by the spring.
Place the rotor on. NOTE: some rotors are directional and have curved vanes, follow the instructions!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4815Small.jpg

Put on the new torque member (with those two 19mm bolts). I applied some loctite here for a secure hold.

Put in the new brake pads, apply the special anti-squeal stuff.

godlyone 06-20-2009 09:15 AM

Put the caliper on using the two 14mm bolts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4817Small.jpg

Now you need to bleed the brakes, so pick up some Dot 3 brake fluid, and have a friend help. If you don't know how to bleed, the person outside of the car opens the bleeder to allow fluid to escape while the person in the car pumps and holds the brake to provide pressure. Keep bleeding until you don't see any air in the line. It helps to use a tube into a water bottle filled w. some brake fluid so you can see the air bubbles come up. Remember to keep topping off the fluid so you don't start drawing air in. It's also a good idea to bleed a whole bunch of that nasty old fluid out..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4823Small.jpg


So here are some size comparisons (remember my car is 2000 so the rotors were smaller than 5.5gens')

Caliper (04 on left, 00 on right):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4819Small.jpg
(04 on right, 00 on left)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4820Small.jpg

Pad size (newer ones on bottom obviously):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4818Small.jpg

godlyone 06-20-2009 09:16 AM

And the best before and after lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4804Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...F4821Small.jpg

Also notice my old rotor on the ground there, on the backside there is a very THIN strip where the pad was making actual contact.. I couldn't believe how crappily the stock setup was working.

maxima dude 06-20-2009 09:29 AM

niceeeee

d-schist 06-20-2009 12:00 PM

wow nice write up thanks

mist max2000 06-20-2009 12:08 PM

wow awsome write up and pics... thats what makes this site great..nice work!!

whiteSE 06-20-2009 12:43 PM

nice, might want to look into this.

nismowolfe 06-20-2009 01:59 PM

I need the caliper brackets I have everything else if you could source these for me I could pay you even if you have to get the calipers and all or if you know a place I could get them I dont have many junkyards near me thanks. My front rotors are totally destroyed and I need these bad and I dont want to just replace the factory rotors.

arthur glazier 06-20-2009 05:43 PM

What is the torque member? Is that the bracket or bolt?

CustomLowz 06-20-2009 06:20 PM

Pretty much did the same thing... All bolted on with no problems

The old setup, all stock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...z/100_0970.jpg

Stock rotor, against new rotor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...z/100_0972.jpg

New setup installed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...z/100_0973.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...z/100_0974.jpg

MIK3 06-20-2009 06:35 PM

A definitive write up, a $200 BBK set up. I'm sold. Excellent stuff.

Jreed2008 06-20-2009 07:51 PM

Just in time planed on doing this soon. Thanks

PulsarGTS 06-20-2009 07:57 PM

Its should still just clear the stock 17"s correct?

CustomLowz 06-20-2009 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by PulsarGTS (Post 7083427)
Its should still just clear the stock 17"s correct?

it will NOT clear the 00-01 stock 17's but will clear the 02-03 stock 17's

dutch078 06-20-2009 09:17 PM

nice write up - looks great!

MaximaSpd85 06-20-2009 09:30 PM

oh snap!! heck yeah, this would be an awesome upgrade for 4th gens assuming this would work the same way the 5.5 gen brakes worked on 4th gens.

hi-tek22 06-20-2009 11:20 PM

SWEET!

BlackMaxima21 06-21-2009 12:06 AM

do you guys know if it will clear the 2000 16 inch rims?

CustomLowz 06-21-2009 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by BlackMaxima21 (Post 7083622)
do you guys know if it will clear the 2000 16 inch rims?

Will NOT

Prophecy99 06-21-2009 06:17 AM

good write up... and pics all, I have been tryin to do this mod since spring but cant get the funds, I want the rotors with the center hub area coated black "oem style". I cant find a pair of them for the price you got those black zinc ones.

jkpgt96 06-21-2009 09:11 AM

nice write up!

godlyone 06-21-2009 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Prophecy99 (Post 7083732)
good write up... and pics all, I have been tryin to do this mod since spring but cant get the funds, I want the rotors with the center hub area coated black "oem style". I cant find a pair of them for the price you got those black zinc ones.

send an email to rotorpros@yahoo.com

also mine are black zinc coated and after you drive them, the area where the pad makes contact becomes metal (silver) so only the hub area (and where inner spokes are) is left black

djfrestyl 06-21-2009 12:58 PM

Nice job.

Friendly tip: rotate the pictures into the correct orientation prior to uploading. So that viewers of your thread don't have to **** their head to the left/right to properly view the pics.

SgtSchulze 06-22-2009 01:47 PM

Just emailed them. Now on to find the calipers and brackets.

SteveB123 06-22-2009 02:32 PM

Anyone have pics of these behind 02-03 stock alloys?

anomaly117 06-22-2009 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by CustomLowz (Post 7083428)
it will NOT clear the 00-01 stock 17's but will clear the 02-03 stock 17's

d*mn that sucks...

Prophecy99 06-23-2009 05:26 AM

Thanks again. godlyone.

nissandrvr98 06-23-2009 06:11 AM

very nice job and A+ on the writeup!

soulsmax 06-23-2009 08:06 AM

does anyone know if these will clear the G35 17s?. Thanks!

HotshotVQ35 06-23-2009 08:40 AM

not stock, but 17s nonetheless..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../maxima017.jpg

and for those who dont have these brakes, they are a must, the stock brakes on 5.5 gens SUCK!


Originally Posted by SteveB123 (Post 7085333)
Anyone have pics of these behind 02-03 stock alloys?


M1RAG3 06-23-2009 08:41 AM

Great DIY and write up!

NmexMAX 06-23-2009 08:46 AM

Me = fail @ taking pictarz
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...g?t=1245771949


This was when I had a lift kit:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...g?t=1245771994

Stoopid camera phone:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...g?t=1245772044

phatboislim 06-23-2009 09:05 AM

they can fit with the 00-01 wheels with some spacers...as i was told

NissanTun3r 06-23-2009 10:03 AM

18's-19's look better on the maxima's anyways

You should try to upgrade the wheels too!! Even if its just bigger oem wheels

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...7/DSCN1694.jpg

2theMaX05 06-23-2009 10:30 AM

Nice Upgrade and nicely done +1

d-schist 06-23-2009 10:33 AM

anybody know if that BBK would work with the stock non sport model I35 17" wheels?

Loki2damax 06-23-2009 12:18 PM

nice! i might try this

vastmax 07-06-2009 09:22 AM

I did this to my car this weekend. When all was said and done, I spent ~$300 on this upgrade.

Calipers/torque members: $70 shipped
Rotorpros zinc coated rotors and Hawk HPS pads: $189 shipped (not sure how the OP got them so cheap)
G2 Caliper Paint kit: $40

Overall i'm very happy with the looks/performance. I wish I could give an honest opinion of the upgrade itself, but my old setup was beyond warn out and so I'm thankful to have a 100% brake system now. However, I can tell quite a difference in the Hawk pads, it may be because there is ALOT more surface area on 6th gen pads than there is on 5.5's.

Also, if you plan on doing the G2 kit, I recommend you have the calipers already sanded down, installed on the car, and the brake lines already hooked up and bled. I painted mine off the car and during install scraped them up a bit. Also, during the brake line install, they got a little messy. Luckily, the paint hadn't hardened yet so i put a quick coat on them. Overall, very happy with the results.

Something else I tried that was new to me was a "1-man" brake bleeding. Stick a hose on the nipple, put the other end in a bottle with about an inch of fluid in it, set the bottle physically above the nipple. Fill up the reservoir and leave the cap off. Open up the nipple, you'll see fluid going up the tube into the bottle. Go into the car and pump the brake slowly. It took 1 pump to bleed my brakes. You heard right...1 pump. Tighten the nipple, fill the reservoir up again, and do the other side. I will never bleed my brakes any other way, I couldnt believe how simple this was. I saw an actual kit for doing this at Auto Zone for $8. It cost me $0.18 ($.09/foot) for the hose and a 20 oz. pepsi. Very cost effective.

I hope this helps some of you guys in the future.

-R

xlcrew 07-06-2009 09:29 AM

i just got everything off a 2006 maxima in a junk yard that had 2500 miles on it. i paid a total of $125 for everything, bout what i was about to spend for only pads all the way around.

also guys with 4rth gens will need to drill out the hole where the torque arm bolts through. i helped a buddy of mine put an 04 max set up on his 97. best upgrade i have done brake wise, and i have had 4 different set ups.


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