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Squirrel82 07-15-2009 07:44 PM

1/4 rust repair
 
Before:
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00244.jpg

After:
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00268.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00271.jpg

Thats what happened for riding on 245 45 18s while lowered.Scraped the paint right off.

Squirrel82 07-15-2009 07:51 PM

Doesnt look that bad till taken apart.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00247.jpg

Grinded down the welds and started peeling the inside sheetmetal
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00248.jpg

Took a small grinder to all the rust.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00249.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00251.jpg

Squirrel82 07-15-2009 07:56 PM

Single coat of "etch" primer.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00253.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00225.jpg

Beat it shut.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00254.jpg

Seam sealer
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00263.jpg

Squirrel82 07-15-2009 08:07 PM

Filled all the gap with the seam sealer.Being carefull not to leave any gaps for moisture to get in.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00260.jpg

Scuffed the inside of the wheelwell with 3M red suff pad for adhesion of rubber undercoating.Thought I took a picture of the can but didnt.So 2 coats of that.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00264.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00266.jpg

Thats pretty much it.Just needed some paint afterwards.Didnt even mess up the sheetmetal on the outside.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00273.jpg

Squirrel82 07-15-2009 08:12 PM

Questions and comments are welcome.Now all I need to do is get inside the trunk and spray a "wax" to seal off moisture from the inside.Before anyone asks,Im not doing this to your car.Just posted to show a permanent repair can be done.

Whitebread 07-15-2009 08:26 PM

You are the man! I was about to ask if anyone had encountered this same issue and how they solved it. Thanks a bunch man!

Squirrel82 07-15-2009 08:36 PM

No prob.
Shaved tab for tire rubbage.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00242.jpg

Solved muffler rubbing issue with hoseclamps.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00241.jpg

No more plate rattle with sound deaden block plus velcro plus expanding foam.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00276.jpg

Whitebread 07-15-2009 08:44 PM

More useful cheep mods. I'll employ some of them when I switch to a 245mm tire

SEmy2K2go 07-15-2009 08:53 PM

Looks good. I'm going to have to get on this repair myself before much longer.

hi-tek22 07-15-2009 09:05 PM

excellent write up bro

Squirrel82 07-15-2009 09:09 PM

Thanks fellas.

Mu_036sp 07-15-2009 10:59 PM

Looks Great man! Did it the right way!

Prophecy99 07-16-2009 09:20 AM

nice work body man,

Colonel 07-16-2009 11:24 AM

You definately took it to the step I wanted to, but have been unable to due to lacking tools.

So you can pry those two "pieces" of metal apart so you can get at all that crappy rust? I was worried that because they were welded/rivited and I would cause body panel damage beyond the rust (bend marks, wrinkles in the metal). I dont have access to body shop tools/materials.

How bad is it to "pop" those welds and rivits? I am assuming you used a body hammer to mate the two pieces of metal back together? What tool/how did you peel the two pieces apart without damaging/warping the metal?

So you:
  • ground the rivits
  • peeled the metal
  • ground the rust off in the now open gap.
  • applied zinc
  • beat the two pieces back together
  • Applied seam sealer
  • Applied 3M Rubberized Spray

Is that seam sealer like latex caulk? Or a much harder substrate? Reason I ask is why didnt you seam sealer then press the two panels together and then seam seal again?

Grand_hustle17 07-16-2009 03:18 PM

man, dont i wish i knew body work... ghey!!! lol... nice work man

-03MaxGLE- 07-17-2009 08:36 AM

:greenbounyeah deff good work man like that plate idea too

Squirrel82 07-17-2009 07:24 PM

Yea all the quarter lip is two pieces of metal welded together.What I did was grind away at the lip till the welds were no more.If you wanted to separate them without doing all that you can drill the just dimples out .Wasnt worried about the metal distorting onthe inside since it isnt seen anyways.Seam sealer and undercoating covers all the flaws.

To separate the metal I used a small screwdriver to get the gap started and then some small needle nose pliers to tug at the inside layer.The outer layer I was careful not to mess with because I didnt want to respray the whole outside quarter.The picture shows the outside wheelwell wasnt distorted at all.

Any semi pointy hammer will work.Wasnt going for perfection.Yea Colonel,That list pretty much describes all the steps.The only thing that should have been done different is keep the grinder moving while getting the rust out.I let it get too hot and the paint started bubbling on the outside.Luckily it was still inside the lip so all it took was a little sanding and paint.

The seam sealer used dries to what I would equal to a tennis shoe sole.Cant squeeze it once its dry.Which it does quickly.It should be fine though.Just gotta get some "cavity wax" sprayed from inside the trunk.

Im not a bodyman ,just a painter with access to tools and some free time everyone once in a while.

LILMAN 07-18-2009 10:20 PM

DAMN YOU SNOW/SALT:mad:
Next Project: Fix the curbage on those wheel my man :(
Good job on the rust repair tho.

hsjoe 07-28-2009 10:58 AM

nice job

98GleMax 07-28-2009 11:50 AM

good job

Squirrel82 07-30-2009 07:40 PM

Stuff sprayed from inside the trunk into the wheelwell.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG00299.jpg

mannetti21 07-30-2009 07:50 PM

Rust FTL my 01 is just starting in the exact same spot.
Hose clamps FTW!!! Instead of having my B-Pipe hanger re-welded every 4months, finally clamped the SOB down to a metal cross bar.

Squirrel82 07-30-2009 08:08 PM

Hate that chit.Cant believe its a fad now.Not the best example,just a quick yahoo image search.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...el-82/hood.jpg

kingrukus 04-13-2010 09:14 AM

Excellent write-up. What are your thoughts of using the POR (Paint over Rust) product in the process?

Squirrel82 04-18-2010 09:00 AM

Should be fine.

anichols 04-22-2010 04:44 PM

great work
 
your a true do-it yourselfer. Mine unfortunately has a more serious cancer.

Rods03Max619 04-22-2010 04:51 PM

Good work. Me no rust yet:kiss:

kingrukus 08-30-2011 01:47 AM

squirrel, how are your fenders holding up after 2 years?

maxspeed96CT 08-30-2011 04:05 AM

Excellent write up op, I like learning about body work products , its the one automotive trades I can't seem to master. Body work isn't easy for those who never tried it.

As far as rust preventive paint, por 15 is great, and I just recently tried master series silver which is a product from a small company that the vintage vw guys swear by cost much less then por too. I love toyota trucks so I'm always battling with rust and etc.

TheOnlyMax88 08-30-2011 04:52 AM

nice write up good pics nice man,7 out of 10 max's in my area (01 to 03) have the exact same rust spot, including me it sucks, but nice job man

Prophecy99 08-30-2011 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by kingrukus (Post 8184699)
squirrel, how are your fenders holding up after 2 years?

this is my biggest question. by the looks of your work it would far supersede any comparable shop doing the same work,
so yeah im completely wondering how its holding up !

Squirrel82 08-30-2011 05:16 PM

Holding up so far

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...-05-45_229.jpg

Hood is rotting from the inside out though.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...-09-37_107.jpg

kingrukus 08-30-2011 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT (Post 8184727)
Excellent write up op, I like learning about body work products , its the one automotive trades I can't seem to master. Body work isn't easy for those who never tried it.

As far as rust preventive paint, por 15 is great, and I just recently tried master series silver which is a product from a small company that the vintage vw guys swear by cost much less then por too. I love toyota trucks so I'm always battling with rust and etc.

How are you liking the master series silver? I used POR15 on my maxima last year along the lip which runs along the bottom sides of the car, where you jack from. It seems to have held up decently so far. However my maxima is now my winter car, so I haven't had a chance to look at it since about 4 months ago.

Squirrel82 08-30-2011 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT (Post 8184727)
Excellent write up op, I like learning about body work products , its the one automotive trades I can't seem to master. Body work isn't easy for those who never tried it.

As far as rust preventive paint, por 15 is great, and I just recently tried master series silver which is a product from a small company that the vintage vw guys swear by cost much less then por too. I love toyota trucks so I'm always battling with rust and etc.

I lucked out with a rust free 89 hardbody.Waited years before my friend finally let it go.


http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...9-19-39_23.jpg

kingrukus 08-30-2011 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Squirrel82 (Post 8185340)
Holding up so far

Looks awesome after 2 years. How did you manage to seperate the lips apart initially to grind them and paint them? Did you use any special tools?

Squirrel82 08-30-2011 06:25 PM

Took a grinder to the lip edge shaving it down little by little till the spot welds that hold the metal together were gone.Then jammed a screwdriver in the crack to start spreading the metal.Finished pulling with pliers tugging the inner lip.So no ,no special tools besides the grinder.


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